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Re: Ainge should've acquired a big man at the deadline
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2015, 12:44:26 AM »

Offline GetLucky

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Ainge will probably try get a big in the draft

No point in getting a guy now that is ok at rim protecting so we could win a few more games

One of the best ways to tank is to not have a rim protector to protect the paint opens up lots of opportunities for the opponents to get Easy points in the paint

Which is the complete opposite of what I want to see happen.

Well you also wanted Enes "Third-Best Big on the Jazz" Kanter, Miles "I'm the Other" Plumlee, Brook "Literally and Figuratively Big Reason the Nets are in Cap Hell" Lopez, and JJ "One more J and you've got JaJuan Johnson" Hickson for a "playoff push." I actually like all of those players (especially Kanter), but not for the Celtics right now, especially with some of their contract situations.

To quote the old man in the commercial: "You can't have your cake and eat it too." Unfortunately, there is no little girl offering an affordable cable package to save us. 

Re: Ainge should've acquired a big man at the deadline
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2015, 01:19:56 AM »

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we'll have options to get a big this summer.  Still makes by far the most sense to tank this season.  2 games out of the playoffs, but we also have 2 more wins than the 5th worst team in basketball.  I'd much rather have a top 5 pick than a pointless playoff appearance this year.

I feel the total opposite. I'd rather make the playoffs than have an irrelevant higher chance at a draft pick.

Which is why Ainge should've acquired another big man, to help secure our chances at making the playoffs.
Top 5 is different from the 16th pick.  Less chance of failure with a top pick.  Marcus smart was a nice consolation prize this year.

Re: Ainge should've acquired a big man at the deadline
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2015, 01:27:09 AM »

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we'll have options to get a big this summer.  Still makes by far the most sense to tank this season.  2 games out of the playoffs, but we also have 2 more wins than the 5th worst team in basketball.  I'd much rather have a top 5 pick than a pointless playoff appearance this year.

I feel the total opposite. I'd rather make the playoffs than have an irrelevant higher chance at a draft pick.

Which is why Ainge should've acquired another big man, to help secure our chances at making the playoffs.
Top 5 is different from the 16th pick.  Less chance of failure with a top pick.  Marcus smart was a nice consolation prize this year.


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if we DID make playoffs we'd literally be one of the very worst teams ever to make it, and i don't think that's much of an accomplishment. by some miracle we might beat the hawks or raptors, but the fun would end shortly after that.

Re: Ainge should've acquired a big man at the deadline
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2015, 02:10:01 AM »

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I'd much rather the playoffs, be good for the young players.

Re: Ainge should've acquired a big man at the deadline
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2015, 03:16:04 AM »

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I disagree (respectfully).
I understand that we need a better than average big man, but acquiring one of the cast offs that were unwanted by their teams appeared to be the only option.

We've got Zeller, Bass, Sullinger and Olynyk and Olynyk is expected back soon.

Not sure who you think Danny could have gotten that would've pushed us over the edge and into the playoffs but after seeing that the Nets upgraded, the Pistons upgraded and the Heat upgraded (before Bosh went down), making the playoffs as a sorrily losing team probably wasn't on Danny's priority list.

What assets would we have to give up to get one of those guys anyway?
I wouldn't want to give away any decent assets for the chumps that were available at the deadline.
I'd argue that Zeller is playing better than Kanter and Plumlee and as good, if not better than Lopez- who is a 24/7 foot injury away from sitting out the rest of the season anyway- not to mention his bazillion $ contract.

Really can't see the point in letting this team overachieve with a bad roster, then give away assets to push for the 8th seed as a massively losing team.
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Re: Ainge should've acquired a big man at the deadline
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2015, 08:40:47 AM »

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Instant gratification ruins franchises in basketball.   Ainge makes solid calculated moves not emotional ones.  I think he weighed what was out there and  decided to not bite given the flaws of Kanter (we have enough slow bigs who can't play D).  Going for him would have been a mistake.  If anything he increased our athletic ability by adding Jerebko and Thomas both who can run.

We may still make the playoffs folks, it is possible and other teams are tanking that badly.  I question whether the experience will help us or another team though because I think a lot of our guys will be moved at some point.   I think they plan on keeping Smart and Young,   I am not sure about the others.  Last DA moved the youth with picks for a star.

Re: Ainge should've acquired a big man at the deadline
« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2015, 08:57:43 AM »

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No use to get a big man when all our guards do is chuck up 30 footers 90% of the time...Until the Celtics start moving the ball around like the Spurs, and get everybody involved in the offense, they're going to struggle...

Re: Ainge should've acquired a big man at the deadline
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2015, 09:12:34 AM »

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But we have the SHAV!

Re: Ainge should've acquired a big man at the deadline
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2015, 09:46:00 AM »

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I don't think anyone was available that would be a good pickup for the C's.

Re: Ainge should've acquired a big man at the deadline
« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2015, 09:55:47 AM »

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Waive Shav and Pressey and sign Larry Sanders and DeAndre Kane

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Turner/Crowder/Wallace
Bass/Sully/Jerebko
Sanders/KO/Zeller


Re: Ainge should've acquired a big man at the deadline
« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2015, 10:53:25 AM »

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Kanter was clearly available and for not that much.  I would have made a move for him.  I mean a couple of seconds and a trade exception would have been a better deal than what Utah got.
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Re: Ainge should've acquired a big man at the deadline
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2015, 11:32:21 AM »

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Kanter was clearly available and for not that much.  I would have made a move for him.  I mean a couple of seconds and a trade exception would have been a better deal than what Utah got.

Yeah, but Kanter is taller than 5'9, so Ainge didn't really have much need for him.

Re: Ainge should've acquired a big man at the deadline
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2015, 11:33:22 AM »

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I disagree (respectfully).
I understand that we need a better than average big man, but acquiring one of the cast offs that were unwanted by their teams appeared to be the only option.

We've got Zeller, Bass, Sullinger and Olynyk and Olynyk is expected back soon.

Not sure who you think Danny could have gotten that would've pushed us over the edge and into the playoffs but after seeing that the Nets upgraded, the Pistons upgraded and the Heat upgraded (before Bosh went down), making the playoffs as a sorrily losing team probably wasn't on Danny's priority list.

What assets would we have to give up to get one of those guys anyway?
I wouldn't want to give away any decent assets for the chumps that were available at the deadline.
I'd argue that Zeller is playing better than Kanter and Plumlee and as good, if not better than Lopez- who is a 24/7 foot injury away from sitting out the rest of the season anyway- not to mention his bazillion $ contract.

Really can't see the point in letting this team overachieve with a bad roster, then give away assets to push for the 8th seed as a massively losing team.

Boy, that front court is going to win us a championship or 6.

By the way, Sully is out for the year and Olynyk is hurt.

Re: Ainge should've acquired a big man at the deadline
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2015, 11:33:27 AM »

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Ainge stated (and correctly in my opinion) that he did not want to trade a draft pick or other tangible asset for a player that was due to expire.  So if you eliminate expiring bigs (Kantor, Perk) from those that moved, you are left with Plumlee or McGee who each are signed for 2015-16.  McGee is a bad contract so that leave Miles Plumlee and his 4 pts and 5 rebs in 18 minutes.

It is more complicated than this but more or less, Milwaukee gave up Brendon Knight to get Plumlee from Phoenix.  Not sure how we could have gotten in on this but certainly nothing to call Danny out for not doing.

Milwaukee was only willing to give up Knight because Philly was dumping Carter-Williams.  Otherwise, I don't think they give up Knight for Plumlee.

Re: Ainge should've acquired a big man at the deadline
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2015, 11:34:41 AM »

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Ainge should've picked up an MVP candidate.

Because clearly I mentioned in my original post that I thought Ainge should've gone out and gotten either Lebron or Durant.