Targeting 2 bigs this summer (Monroe and Hibbert)

[iadera]

Investing on Hibbert would be a disaster.

Absolutely!

[KeepRondo]

Investing on Hibbert would be a disaster.

I agree. Inconsistent, not a very good rebounder, and bound to begin having more physical issues as he nears 30 with all that weight he's carrying around.

add me to the do not want list. He was great 2-3 years ago but now his body could break down any game.

[KeepRondo]

Seems to me like we like bigs who can play the pick and roll and also range out and hit the outside shot.  TAlent obviously trumps certain things and  a guy like Monroe could fit but seems like a trend so far.

I'm happy with Monroe at Center.

Not the best interior defence, but how much interior D did Miami have when they won their last two titles? It's good to have, but doesn't mean you can't win without it. 

My first priority would be going after Monroe, second priority wold be to chase a starting calibre SF.  Now that we have Smart, Thomas, Bradley and Sully we have the potential to be very good if we can add a nice SF and C. 

Plus is Detroit going to want to break that up when they have Monroe and Drummond?  They got rid of Josh Smith and Monroe might stay there.

Not really up to them...Monroe has been very vocal about the fact that he will test free agency after this season and has no intention of coming back to Detroit.  Detroit can ether let him walk, or they can try to work out a sign-and-trade with a team he wants to go to so that they can get something back for him.

I can see the Pistons resigning him. They did let Smith walk and opened up minutes for Monroe.

[gpap]

I think we have about 20 million with picking up crowder and taking into account our draft picks.  We could stretch Wallace which could get us to 28 million.  Still think we would be missing that dynamic scorer though....

Monta Ellis is another guy I really hope Ainge takes a look at if he opts out of his deal with Dallas.

[gpap]

In theory, I could see Monroe and Hibbert making for a sort of Grizzlies East.  Poor mans version, for sure.

I don't think that's really a good way to go given who our coach is and the rest of the guys on our roster.  Plus, is that likely to work any better than it has for the Pistons?

For what it's worth, I think Hibbert will end up in NY and Monroe will stay in Detroit.

If the Celtics are gonna pay a premium for a big man this summer, it'll probably be Deandre Jordan.

No complaints here if we can get Deandre.

[Irish Stew]

Without Sullinger for an indefinite period of time I think that our record is slowly going to move back eventually to where we have the 7th or 8th worst record. If that is the case I hope that we might be able to get Cauley-Stein which would give us a pretty solid 4 man rotation at the 4-5 of WCS, Zeller, Sullinger, and Olynyk. I think that I would rather concentrate our free agency on a big time 3 like JButler, DGreen or JLeonard. If those 3 are unrealistic, how about moving some of our assets for HBarnes? LDeng is a bit old but if he opts out should we think about him?

[Evantime34]

I would be in favor of either although I prefer Hibbert because he is one of the best rim protectors in the league. He has lead his team to a top 10 defense for most of the season despite playing with a not great roster.

 He also isn't as bad of a rebounder as people are saying. Sure he doesn't get a ton of rebounds, but he boxes out and makes sure his team can get the rebound. The Pacers are currently 2nd in defensive rebounding percentage despite him only averaging 7.1 boards per game with a not very strong roster.

Monroe would also be nice too because you can dump it into the paint with him and he will create a quality shot attempt for the C's.

The C's currently struggle to protect the rim and get consistent quality shots, each of these guys would help in one of those areas. However, adding both does not make sense, Monroe is too slow to consistently guard 4's and on offense both guys need to be in the low post.

[Celts Fan 508]

No complaints here if we can get Deandre.

I agree, he would be my #1 target as he is exactly the type of player the Celtics need.  My main questions with Jordan is will be ever improve his free throw shooting? 

[TheTruthFot18]

Investing on Hibbert would be a disaster.

Say what you want about Sully but at least he can rebound (he is near the top in offensive rebounds given his playing time as well). The only centers I want that are not from the draft are Cousins, Drummond, and Davis and they are likely staying out to not coming here.

Draft WCS, RHJ, and Dakari Johnson then roll with:

Thomas, Smart
AB, Young
Crowder, Turner, RHJ
Sully, KO
WCS, Zeller, DJ

That locks up 1, 2, 4, and 5 so bring in a FA 3 (Harris, Butler)

[TheTruthFot18]

No complaints here if we can get Deandre.

I agree, he would be my #1 target as he is exactly the type of player the Celtics need.  My main questions with Jordan is will be ever improve his free throw shooting?

He made headlines the other day for getting 54 FTA the last two games. Great, except he only made 22 of those (40.7%). I'd rather have someone only get there 10-15 times those games and make 80%. Lord knows we need another player who can't hit FT's late in games when they can decide a game.

[saltlover]

No complaints here if we can get Deandre.

I agree, he would be my #1 target as he is exactly the type of player the Celtics need.  My main questions with Jordan is will be ever improve his free throw shooting?

He made headlines the other day for getting 54 FTA the last two games. Great, except he only made 22 of those (40.7%). I'd rather have someone only get there 10-15 times those games and make 80%. Lord knows we need another player who can't hit FT's late in games when they can decide a game.

If DeAndre Jordan were the perfect player, the Celtics would have no chance at signing him.  As it is, that chance is unclear.

Jordan draws a ton of fouls because he's not good at shooting them.  However, drawing these fouls a) can get his team into the bonus more quickly, so his teammates get more foul shots too, and b) causes his opponents to get into foul trouble, so that they go to their bench more.  He brings one of the two things the Celtics need (the other is more scoring from any other position), and absolutely should be a top target, mildly depending on draft results.

[Csfan1984]

I'd think they target 3 guys this summer
Porzingis @ 7-10
Portis @ 21-24
D.Johnson @ 31-34

[Hemingway]

For the right deals both hibert and Monroe could be great. We'd have enough talent to make a case to Pierce to opt out and come back. That's probably good for top 4 in the east and we still have lots of picks.

 The key point would be if this would kill our flexibility to clear space to sign a superstar, like KD, if we ever can. It's hard to weigh good talent now vs a chance at great talent later.

[LilRip]

i'm not sure either can be acquired. With PG coming back, Pacers may be inclined to keep Hibbert and keep their contending core intact. And since DET just released Smith this year, that's pretty much a sign that they're opting to go the Monroe-Drummond route.

If they were available though, I'd love to have Monroe. I'd pass on Hibbert.

[saltlover]

i'm not sure either can be acquired. With PG coming back, Pacers may be inclined to keep Hibbert and keep their contending core intact. And since DET just released Smith this year, that's pretty much a sign that they're opting to go the Monroe-Drummond route.

If they were available though, I'd love to have Monroe. I'd pass on Hibbert.

It's fine for Detroit that they're trying to go the Monroe-Drummond route.  The question is whether or not Monroe is willing to resign in Detroit.  He's no longer a restricted free agent, and can go where he wants.  Getting rid of Smith will help repair the relationship with Monroe, but it is not at this time a guarantee that it will completely work.

Also, Hibbert and Monroe share the same agent (David Falk, who is also the agent for Sullinger and Turner).  Probably won't matter much, but knowing the offers that are out there for two of the top bigs available certainly could help negotiations in favor of both players.