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Re: Ray Allen and Gollum
« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2015, 06:32:50 PM »

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Re: Ray Allen and Gollum
« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2015, 06:40:17 PM »

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Charles Barkley,  Clyde drexler, Karl malone

None of these guys signed with a team mid season. All of them had not won a ring at the time they were traded/signed. Drexler played 3.5 seasons with the Rockets after being traded from the Blazers and seems to have nothing in common with Ray. Barkley was traded from the Suns and played for 3 seasons in Houston where his career also basically ended because of injuries. Karl Malone played one season for the Lakers after signing as a free agent and retired because of knee injuries. Not sure if you were just naming random NBA stars or I missed something

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« Reply #32 on: February 09, 2015, 06:40:53 PM »

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Nothing wrong with what Allen is doing. Remember PJ Brown?

Re: Ray Allen and Gollum
« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2015, 07:13:19 PM »

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Charles Barkley,  Clyde drexler, Karl malone

None of these guys signed with a team mid season. All of them had not won a ring at the time they were traded/signed. Drexler played 3.5 seasons with the Rockets after being traded from the Blazers and seems to have nothing in common with Ray. Barkley was traded from the Suns and played for 3 seasons in Houston where his career also basically ended because of injuries. Karl Malone played one season for the Lakers after signing as a free agent and retired because of knee injuries. Not sure if you were just naming random NBA stars or I missed something
sorry..I was naming hall of fame players who ended up ring chasing...whether or not they already had a ring...franchise players.   I am not ure what you want...does the player also have to have the same initials?  I get it...you have judged Ray Allen lacking in loyalty and you do not like him.  If that is not your point, then what is?
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« Reply #34 on: February 09, 2015, 07:15:44 PM »

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Re: Ray Allen and Gollum
« Reply #35 on: February 09, 2015, 07:18:39 PM »

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« Reply #36 on: February 09, 2015, 07:57:34 PM »

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Charles Barkley,  Clyde drexler, Karl malone

None of these guys signed with a team mid season. All of them had not won a ring at the time they were traded/signed. Drexler played 3.5 seasons with the Rockets after being traded from the Blazers and seems to have nothing in common with Ray. Barkley was traded from the Suns and played for 3 seasons in Houston where his career also basically ended because of injuries. Karl Malone played one season for the Lakers after signing as a free agent and retired because of knee injuries. Not sure if you were just naming random NBA stars or I missed something
sorry..I was naming hall of fame players who ended up ring chasing...whether or not they already had a ring...franchise players.   I am not ure what you want...does the player also have to have the same initials?  I get it...you have judged Ray Allen lacking in loyalty and you do not like him.  If that is not your point, then what is?

I think it was pretty clear, if not from my post, but the rest of the thread, that we were talking about a player with a hall of fame career sitting out 2/3s of the season and suiting up for the final third to try and win a ring. It is a pretty unique move for a former superstar. Whether I think it is fine, bad, good or lame is a subject of debate. The fact that it is really unusual is not.
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Re: Ray Allen and Gollum
« Reply #37 on: February 09, 2015, 08:46:50 PM »

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Charles Barkley,  Clyde drexler, Karl malone

None of these guys signed with a team mid season. All of them had not won a ring at the time they were traded/signed. Drexler played 3.5 seasons with the Rockets after being traded from the Blazers and seems to have nothing in common with Ray. Barkley was traded from the Suns and played for 3 seasons in Houston where his career also basically ended because of injuries. Karl Malone played one season for the Lakers after signing as a free agent and retired because of knee injuries. Not sure if you were just naming random NBA stars or I missed something
sorry..I was naming hall of fame players who ended up ring chasing...whether or not they already had a ring...franchise players.   I am not ure what you want...does the player also have to have the same initials?  I get it...you have judged Ray Allen lacking in loyalty and you do not like him.  If that is not your point, then what is?

I think its pretty clear his referring to someone who is 1)a HOFer talent 2) already has a ring 3) waits halfway till he signs with the best team. He actually has posted about it a couple of times if you actually did read.

Re: Ray Allen and Gollum
« Reply #38 on: February 09, 2015, 08:57:27 PM »

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Charles Barkley,  Clyde drexler, Karl malone

None of these guys signed with a team mid season. All of them had not won a ring at the time they were traded/signed. Drexler played 3.5 seasons with the Rockets after being traded from the Blazers and seems to have nothing in common with Ray. Barkley was traded from the Suns and played for 3 seasons in Houston where his career also basically ended because of injuries. Karl Malone played one season for the Lakers after signing as a free agent and retired because of knee injuries. Not sure if you were just naming random NBA stars or I missed something
sorry..I was naming hall of fame players who ended up ring chasing...whether or not they already had a ring...franchise players.   I am not ure what you want...does the player also have to have the same initials?  I get it...you have judged Ray Allen lacking in loyalty and you do not like him.  If that is not your point, then what is?

I think its pretty clear his referring to someone who is 1)a HOFer talent 2) already has a ring 3) waits halfway till he signs with the best team. He actually has posted about it a couple of times if you actually did read.

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« Reply #39 on: February 09, 2015, 08:59:51 PM »

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« Reply #40 on: February 09, 2015, 09:12:50 PM »

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ray allen with pierce in washington? haha

then buy-out kg to wizards
the big 3 haha
 

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« Reply #41 on: February 09, 2015, 09:34:16 PM »

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Sorry.  I misunderstood the point of the discussion.
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« Reply #42 on: February 10, 2015, 12:38:09 PM »

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Sorry.  I misunderstood the point of the discussion.

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« Reply #43 on: February 10, 2015, 12:55:16 PM »

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ray allen with pierce in washington? haha

then buy-out kg to wizards
the big 3 haha

Even though it wouldn't be anywhere near as magical as their first go around together, I would love that. When Danny was trying to ship Doc, Paul and KG to the Clippers in 2013 I was hoping Ray Allen would opt out of his contract when Miami was all but guaranteed to lose in the finals, reforming the Big Three out in LA. This was, of course, a few days before Allen saved LeBron's legacy in Game 6 and the rest is history from there.

Only two years later, I don't think the Big Three will ever take the court together again. Ray sealed that fate. But it's still nice to dream.

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« Reply #44 on: February 10, 2015, 01:46:40 PM »

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Charles Barkley,  Clyde drexler, Karl malone

None of these guys signed with a team mid season. All of them had not won a ring at the time they were traded/signed. Drexler played 3.5 seasons with the Rockets after being traded from the Blazers and seems to have nothing in common with Ray. Barkley was traded from the Suns and played for 3 seasons in Houston where his career also basically ended because of injuries. Karl Malone played one season for the Lakers after signing as a free agent and retired because of knee injuries. Not sure if you were just naming random NBA stars or I missed something
sorry..I was naming hall of fame players who ended up ring chasing...whether or not they already had a ring...franchise players.   I am not ure what you want...does the player also have to have the same initials?  I get it...you have judged Ray Allen lacking in loyalty and you do not like him.  If that is not your point, then what is?

I think it was pretty clear, if not from my post, but the rest of the thread, that we were talking about a player with a hall of fame career sitting out 2/3s of the season and suiting up for the final third to try and win a ring. It is a pretty unique move for a former superstar. Whether I think it is fine, bad, good or lame is a subject of debate. The fact that it is really unusual is not.
Especially when it happens on an odd year. Any other arbitrary specifics to add?

Just another example of having an axe to grind and dressing it up in random information to make it seem like there is something of substance to discuss.