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Re: Celtics (19-30) at Bucks (27-23) Game #50 2/7/15
« Reply #285 on: February 07, 2015, 11:28:35 PM »

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One thing that ive been wanting to talk about for a while and the numbers back me up is bradley being overrated defensively. Pressures the ball a lot and well, but very easily crossed over or left behind, doesn't move his feet as much as he should

Re: Celtics (19-30) at Bucks (27-23) Game #50 2/7/15
« Reply #286 on: February 07, 2015, 11:31:49 PM »

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l, but very easily crossed over or left behind, doesn't move his feet as much as he should

Sounds like Evan Turner to me.  ;)

Re: Celtics (19-30) at Bucks (27-23) Game #50 2/7/15
« Reply #287 on: February 07, 2015, 11:32:12 PM »

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Oh well, first missed half the game due to confusion then this inglorious end.
I distribute solace TPs to those who participated in the chat and go to bed.
Better luck next time!

Re: Celtics (19-30) at Bucks (27-23) Game #50 2/7/15
« Reply #288 on: February 07, 2015, 11:33:11 PM »

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One thing that I don't like about this team is they are too perimeter oriented without necessairly having the shooting to do so. Don't drive and kick too much, instead just plays out of screen and reads, and more of that. Whenever they do drive, they seem to be considerably better. Of course, it all starts with Smart. Showed some of what he can do tonite. I think if Stevens had better decisions tonight we would've win the game. Didn't call any plays (at least none of the right ones) on the final quarter, took too long to put sully back who was clearly the best player in the team.

 

Re: Celtics (19-30) at Bucks (27-23) Game #50 2/7/15
« Reply #289 on: February 07, 2015, 11:33:26 PM »

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Re: Celtics (19-30) at Bucks (27-23) Game #50 2/7/15
« Reply #290 on: February 07, 2015, 11:33:53 PM »

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So apparently the whole "Young is going to get more minutes" speech only meant while Prince was hurt?
was thinking the same thing. So now we have to hope Prince, who seems like a cool dude, gets hurt. Not sure I can that. Maybe Bradley can re-aggravate that thumb.

I really hope people aren't wishing injuries to players
Why not? These dudes make enough money. I'd rather see Young play over Bradley. It's not like I'm rooting for a career ending injury.

Some people are just too sensitive.
I don't care if it's a minor injury these are their livelihoods to wish any kind of injury to a player just to play an unproven 19 year old is terrible Young will have to earn his minutes just like Smart
I do care and so does the NBA

What?

Re: Celtics (19-30) at Bucks (27-23) Game #50 2/7/15
« Reply #291 on: February 07, 2015, 11:35:05 PM »

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l, but very easily crossed over or left behind, doesn't move his feet as much as he should

Sounds like Evan Turner to me.  ;)

Turner is even worse at moving his feet, although his length compensates somewhat. If you start looking at it closely, Bradley fails to stay with his man most of the time he drives to his weak side. Not a mistake seen many times by Smart for example, a guy who excels at working with his feet. Bradley too much of a gambler

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« Reply #292 on: February 07, 2015, 11:35:23 PM »

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One thing that ive been wanting to talk about for a while and the numbers back me up is bradley being overrated defensively. Pressures the ball a lot and well, but very easily crossed over or left behind, doesn't move his feet as much as he should

I agree. Smart and Bradley have to realize there is usually no shot blocker behind them.
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Re: Celtics (19-30) at Bucks (27-23) Game #50 2/7/15
« Reply #293 on: February 07, 2015, 11:38:10 PM »

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At the end of the day Bradley might be awesome as a sixth man. Comes of the bench with crazy energy, can create more havoc, and is a very streaky shooter.

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« Reply #294 on: February 07, 2015, 11:40:10 PM »

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One thing that ive been wanting to talk about for a while and the numbers back me up is bradley being overrated defensively. Pressures the ball a lot and well, but very easily crossed over or left behind, doesn't move his feet as much as he should

I agree. Smart and Bradley have to realize there is usually no shot blocker behind them.

Exactly, especially because Sully has been awful in those rotations as of late. Only if we got Marc Gasol like Scal wants… lol. But I like AB quite a bit, just not in this particular role

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« Reply #295 on: February 07, 2015, 11:49:25 PM »

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l, but very easily crossed over or left behind, doesn't move his feet as much as he should

Sounds like Evan Turner to me.  ;)

Turner is even worse at moving his feet, although his length compensates somewhat. If you start looking at it closely, Bradley fails to stay with his man most of the time he drives to his weak side. Not a mistake seen many times by Smart for example, a guy who excels at working with his feet. Bradley too much of a gambler

Kind of hard to do that thanks to handchecking rules. I think Bradley's fine on defense, though the Celtics need a shot blocker.

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« Reply #296 on: February 07, 2015, 11:51:51 PM »

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you can still do it with foot work, Smart is a rookie and already has done a visible better job. Even tho today wasn't a good example. Ab is very capable

Re: Celtics (19-30) at Bucks (27-23) Game #50 2/7/15
« Reply #297 on: February 07, 2015, 11:57:20 PM »

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I think AB could be brilliant with a nice offensive 3 along side him. Someone lie hayward would work. Would limit his shot selection a little bit, become more efficient and would save more energy for the defensive end. Either that or as a sixth man if the celtics had a stud at the 2.

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« Reply #298 on: February 08, 2015, 09:25:21 AM »

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I envy the Bucks a little bit about their youth and length. I hate the small ball, even when we manage to win with it.

PG Knight 6'3
SG/SF/... Middleton is 6'8
SF/PF Jabari is 6'9
SF/PF Giannis 6'11, endless wingspan
C Henson 6'11, 9'4 standing reach

If they manage to keep Knight and draft well, that is a major team in the east for years to come.

Painful to see their top 4 salaries being Sanders, Mayo, Zaza and Ilyasova all with multiple years on their contracts.
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Re: Celtics (19-30) at Bucks (27-23) Game #50 2/7/15
« Reply #299 on: February 08, 2015, 02:38:24 PM »

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I gsus - I'm watchin the game right now and 3 nehind with a minute to play Sulli launches another one of his stupid desperation 3s - I don't believe in the great god of tanking - I rather watch the C's winning thx to great hustle over the course of a ball game and thats why I would love to slap Sulli at times - he was quit for a whole quater to 15 min after scoring 12 in the 1st half doining so under the basket. He started to score again in the 4th under the basket so why on earth does he put up a random 3 ball with close to a minute to play and the C's 3 point behind. You want to score under the basket with that score - a dunk or a layup and then you have to generate a stop - you don't even have to foul with so much time left. So why on earth does he shot an early 3. That nerd. I don't have a problem with his weight, I have little problems with him beeing a little late in winter when he happens to end up in a traffic jam. Working as a consultant I had my fair share of traffic issues and a boss that was mad at me about it even if I was able to proof that the Autobahn had been closed during the cleanup which took 5 hours in one case with me standing in the resulting jam. Stuff like that happens, but those 3s - thats just bad stupidity. Thats somethin  you can't do if you want to be considered a good player. If I want to build a contender I don't build on guys who give games away in playoff games doing such things. Sully can really learn from the rookie Smart in that regard. That is so great about Smart - he really doesnt do many misstakes on the court.