My issue with the current Celtics

[bcgenuis]

Why hasn't any player stepped up and become the "go to" player on this team? 

Why is CBS not picking one or two young players and making them the go to guy to try and score 20+ per night and be the player with ball in his hands when they need a bucket.

Why hasn't Sullinger become that player?
Bradley?
Olynyk (ok injured)?
Smart?

Antione was a decent to very good player at times, not a hall of famer by any means, yet on bad team he managed to put up 18-22 ppg.  PP developed under similar circumstances.

Part of the youth movement is to develop these players.  Let the young ones play.   Let one of them become that proverbial best player on a bad team, so that he has some trade value. 

Sadly, I conclude we do not have a player like that on the roster.  This is going to be a loooooong rebuild.

We have no talent.  But at least we have picks.

[konkmv]

Could be shorter than you think... certainly 2016 is the year... having so many picks gives us more trade assets... i think by then we will have at least 2 go to guys

[Chris22]

We aren't that good, but we have 5 or 6 first round picks in the next two years and cap money.

We have to be patient.

[LooseCannon]

Why is CBS not picking one or two young players and making them the go to guy to try and score 20+ per night and be the player with ball in his hands when they need a bucket.

Maybe he's like me and thinks that iso-ball is horrible.

[Boris Badenov]

Why is CBS not picking one or two young players and making them the go to guy to try and score 20+ per night and be the player with ball in his hands when they need a bucket.

Maybe he's like me and thinks that iso-ball is horrible.

That's a fair point, but I think the OP's basic point is right. It's kind of discouraging that we don't even have a "good guy on a bad team" right now - much less a good guy on a good team.

[Quetzalcoatl]

Why is CBS not picking one or two young players and making them the go to guy to try and score 20+ per night and be the player with ball in his hands when they need a bucket.

Maybe he's like me and thinks that iso-ball is horrible.

That's a fair point, but I think the OP's basic point is right. It's kind of discouraging that we don't even have a "good guy on a bad team" right now - much less a good guy on a good team.

I don't get why you would want a ball hog around a bunch of developing players.  Let's say we did have a good stats / bad team guy like Rudy Gay - so what?  We'd all be wishing we could dump their contract and that their shots would go to our youngin's.  They're not worth anything in trades for the most part now that most GMs have wised up. 

I'd rather have a bare bones team that adds 1st rounders into itself like a snowball and then just start offering every good, disgruntled FA oodles of cash.  I don't really mind keeping Bass or Crowder anymore, because we need their salaries in potential trades and if we keep them after we add a big player, we'll need role players like them.  Plus, I like hard working, professional  players around our developing guys - I am not even down on Wallace anymore. We're going to be at $33 million next year and Wallace won't have even expired yet.  Then we're getting 3 consecutive Nets' picks.  We weren't ever going to be good this year.  It was never in the plans.

[2short]

ainge has traded away our best players meaning this season truly doesn't matter
we are not really going all in and developing this season which means this season (and possibly part of next) doesn't matter
we don't currently have a true nba starter on our roster 
lack of cohesion for starting team, playing time or rotation

should i go on? 
 
 

[BornReady]

I think CBS is making the best of his talent on the team
Trying to run more plays from the guy that is hot during the game

Anyone on our team could be doing well in one game: zeller , olynyk, Bradley, turner, sullinger, Thornton

You could argue sully is the go to scorer as he is averaging the most points albeit at 14ppg
But Stevens is trying to develop him so he develops a solid outside shot and midrange jumper so he is not just banging low in the paint
If he does develop he could have more variety in his offence for the future

[BornReady]

Why is CBS not picking one or two young players and making them the go to guy to try and score 20+ per night and be the player with ball in his hands when they need a bucket.

Maybe he's like me and thinks that iso-ball is horrible.

That's a fair point, but I think the OP's basic point is right. It's kind of discouraging that we don't even have a "good guy on a bad team" right now - much less a good guy on a good team.

I think u r speaking strictly from an aesthetic point of view where u want to watch an exciting player for entertainment while our team tanks
Kinda like how wiggins and lavine  is in minny right now dunking it
Or last year Milwaukee had the Greek freak

[howl1309]

I somewhat agree with the op. I am thinking along the same lines with the young guys but more in terms of getting them more integrated on the offensive end. The thing that really bothers me, is not the lack of the development of a go-to guy, but that CBS doesn't seem to be running enough plays for the young guys. I understand trying to focus on the hot hand but it seems like no plays are run to set up Young or Smart. Young I think could have a bit of Ray Allen in him where he can hit shots running off screens.  During the games, he is starting to run of picks quite a bit but never gets the ball. Frustrating!

[dwoumn]

Why is CBS not picking one or two young players and making them the go to guy to try and score 20+ per night and be the player with ball in his hands when they need a bucket.

Maybe he's like me and thinks that iso-ball is horrible.

That's a fair point, but I think the OP's basic point is right. It's kind of discouraging that we don't even have a "good guy on a bad team" right now - much less a good guy on a good team.

I don't get why you would want a ball hog around a bunch of developing players.  Let's say we did have a good stats / bad team guy like Rudy Gay - so what?  We'd all be wishing we could dump their contract and that their shots would go to our youngin's.  They're not worth anything in trades for the most part now that most GMs have wised up. 

I'd rather have a bare bones team that adds 1st rounders into itself like a snowball and then just start offering every good, disgruntled FA oodles of cash.  I don't really mind keeping Bass or Crowder anymore, because we need their salaries in potential trades and if we keep them after we add a big player, we'll need role players like them.  Plus, I like hard working, professional  players around our developing guys - I am not even down on Wallace anymore. We're going to be at $33 million next year and Wallace won't have even expired yet.  Then we're getting 3 consecutive Nets' picks.  We weren't ever going to be good this year.  It was never in the plans.

This team isn't good, too many pieces that do not fit CBS system. With that note he should be running plays to different people throughout the rest of the season as a go to player. If that means a pindown for Bradley or Young, pick and roll with Zeller, post up for Sullinger, or movement leading to Smart attacking the hoop. Lots of good young talent but CBS has to decide now which player to go to.

One thing I did notice with CBS's teams at Butler is that they had a offensive balance of the 3 ball, mid range and putting the ball on the floor attacking the rim. What this C's team do well is chuck up a lot of 3's. It's rare to see any player on the team put the ball on the floor and look to put pressure on the defense with penetration. Either penetration will lead to a lay up or an open look for someone else. I don't know if that's a lack of ball handling skills or what. However, I do put this problem on the players and not CBS. Just looking back on Butler's offense they had tremendous shooters but they all could put it on the floor.

[nickagneta]

You are either a scorer or you aren't. Its not something that you develop. Simple fact is we don't have any born scorers on this team. We have some intriguing young players but none are pure scorers. After that we have role players, some of them not even good role players.

Stevens is coaching to win while developing youth but with a half a season still to go he has to also try to develop HIS system both on and off the court. The constant turnstyle of personnel makes all this exponentially more difficult.

Right now it sure seems to me like he is trying to play the guys playing the best at that time. He doesn't care if those players are young or old or experienced or unexperienced. He still has to run that team under principles and philosophies he has as a coach and maybe playing the guys playing the best while trying to win is his system and philosophy

[PhoSita]

Pushing young players to take a lot of shots and try to be primary scoring options when they aren't ready or their skill set / talent level makes them better suited for a lower usage role is pretty much the worst way of developing young players.

Probably nobody on this team right now is meant to be more than a 15 or 16 point per game scorer at most, even once they reach their peak.  But there are some very valuable players in the league that score in the low to mid teens.

[nickagneta]

Pushing young players to take a lot of shots and try to be primary scoring options when they aren't ready or their skill set / talent level makes them better suited for a lower usage role is pretty much the worst way of developing young players.

Probably nobody on this team right now is meant to be more than a 15 or 16 point per game scorer at most, even once they reach their peak.  But there are some very valuable players in the league that score in the low to mid teens.

tp

[Alleyoopster]

Up until he got injured the go to guy has been Prince.  By the time the Minnesota game came around he started hobbling up and down the court and started becoming ineffective.  He was the glue that held the team together during the West Coast trip.  Whenever there was a lull in the scoring he picked them up.  No one on the team fits that role on a consistent basis.