#DeflateGate (Court of Appeals Reinstates Suspension)

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

NFL Live is destroying Brady.

This whole thing is getting ridiculous.

"Is getting"? When wasn't it?

Well the fact that Marc Brunell seemed choked up after Tom's presser because he was so disappointed is pretty ridiculous.

Baltimore's Chris Canty says this situation should be treated on the same level as PEDs, and Troy Aikman says the Patriots should be punished more severely than Sean Payton was for the Saints' bounty system (though Aikman seems to be factoring in "repeat offender" status for the Pats). All of it ridiculous.

[dark_lord]

personally, i find this whole thing funny.  granted im not a big football fan.  but this is the type of stuff that will go down in folklore, kind of like red.  Bill really does not give a [dang] and does his thing, lol.

from the spygate south park episode

[kozlodoev]

Mark Brunell. Priceless.

https://vine.co/v/OIpznA1DpXL

[GratefulCs]

NFL Live is destroying Brady.

This whole thing is getting ridiculous.

Those guys on the show sounded so salty..


But what do you expect from Brady's contemporaries. Especially one who lost to the pats in the Super Bowl

[kozlodoev]

NFL Live is destroying Brady.

This whole thing is getting ridiculous.

Those guys on the show sounded so salty..


But what do you expect from Brady's contemporaries. Especially one who lost to the pats in the Super Bowl

In all fairness, Aikman retired before Tom Brady was a NFL starter.

[celticsclay]

The idea that Brady can't tell the difference between the ball he supposedly hand-chose five hours previously, and an under-inflated ball, is laughable.

Roy, in my opinion, your distaste for the patriots is really impacting your comments on this subject. The truth is there really isn't enough information out there right now to decide if anything is laughable. We have been given such limited information that anything is really still in play at this point. Like another user said we don't know if most of the balls were 12.2, 11.5 or 10.5.

Surprised given your background and normal discussion of things that you would take such a strong position with the level of info that is out there at the moment.

As I mentioned earlier also disappointing how little focus there is on the game at the moment.

[Roy H.]

The idea that Brady can't tell the difference between the ball he supposedly hand-chose five hours previously, and an under-inflated ball, is laughable.

Roy, in my opinion, your distaste for the patriots is really impacting your comments on this subject. The truth is there really isn't enough information out there right now to decide if anything is laughable. We have been given such limited information that anything is really still in play at this point. Like another user said we don't know if most of the balls were 12.2, 11.5 or 10.5.

Surprised given your background and normal discussion of things that you would take such a strong position with the level of info that is out there at the moment.

As I mentioned earlier also disappointing how little focus there is on the game at the moment.

The report was 2 PSI.  If that's accurate, it's laughable. 

I agree that I'd like the focus to be on the game, but let's be real: the idea that an Indy equipment manager could tell the ball was under-inflated, but Tom Brady couldn't, is silly.

[celticsclay]

Mark Brunell. Priceless.

https://vine.co/v/OIpznA1DpXL

Mark Brunell lost 9 million dollars on a whattaburger...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2056421/How-Mark-Brunell-blew-50million-dollars-failed-investments.html

[wahz]

The NFL has apparently taken this all very seriously, but, um, hasn't had time yet to contact Tom Brady. ??

They're too busy being shocked, angered, and distraught.

Or too busy previewing Super Bowl ads, which are way more entertaining than the anti-Patriots drivel oozing from so many people's pores these days.

Actually the NFL is busy analyzing Marshawn Lynch's every hand movement toward his private parts, what his shoes look like, and how long he spent with reporters. A player who should be held up by the league as one of the best examples of on the field effort, and off the field charity has become their whipping boy. I'll bet that within 1 week, deflate gate has calmed down and Lynch will be fined for the transgression of ignoring reporters questions.

[Rondo2287]

The idea that Brady can't tell the difference between the ball he supposedly hand-chose five hours previously, and an under-inflated ball, is laughable.

Roy, in my opinion, your distaste for the patriots is really impacting your comments on this subject. The truth is there really isn't enough information out there right now to decide if anything is laughable. We have been given such limited information that anything is really still in play at this point. Like another user said we don't know if most of the balls were 12.2, 11.5 or 10.5.

Surprised given your background and normal discussion of things that you would take such a strong position with the level of info that is out there at the moment.

As I mentioned earlier also disappointing how little focus there is on the game at the moment.

The report was 2 PSI.  If that's accurate, it's laughable. 

I agree that I'd like the focus to be on the game, but let's be real: the idea that an Indy equipment manager could tell the ball was under-inflated, but Tom Brady couldn't, is silly.

Agreed, but per the guy that picked off brady, he also couldn't tell the ball was deflated

[Quetzalcoatl]

Mark Brunell. Priceless.

https://vine.co/v/OIpznA1DpXL

Mark Brunell lost 9 million dollars on a whattaburger...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2056421/How-Mark-Brunell-blew-50million-dollars-failed-investments.html

Oh wow, at first I thought it was like investing in the start up of Whataburger or like a big expansion of the chain.  But no, it was one store.  What a terrible investment

[blink]

NFL Live is destroying Brady.

This whole thing is getting ridiculous.

"Is getting"? When wasn't it?

Well the fact that Marc Brunell seemed choked up after Tom's presser because he was so disappointed is pretty ridiculous.

Baltimore's Chris Canty says this situation should be treated on the same level as PEDs, and Troy Aikman says the Patriots should be punished more severely than Sean Payton was for the Saints' bounty system (though Aikman seems to be factoring in "repeat offender" status for the Pats). All of it ridiculous.

Oh sheesh.  Seriously, deflategate is no where in the same solar system as PED or a bounty system.  I am embarrassed that Aikman is even saying that. 

As much as I hate to admit it here on Celticsblog, I am a phins fan, and thus I am not always the biggest pats fan, but this whole thing is completely overboard.  The pats completely dominated the colts, and I can't see how it had any impact whatsoever on that game. 

IF there is actual PROOF that the Pats did something to deflate the balls, then yeah, give them a fine or whatever.  Has the NFL actually released an actual report yet?  A draft pick seems to be too much for the crime, but no matter what Goodell will do whatever he thinks makes himself look good. 

Honestly, the NFL and the refs need to be held accountable as well.  Why do they allow the balls out of their control anyways, even for a few minutes?

[celticsclay]

The idea that Brady can't tell the difference between the ball he supposedly hand-chose five hours previously, and an under-inflated ball, is laughable.

Roy, in my opinion, your distaste for the patriots is really impacting your comments on this subject. The truth is there really isn't enough information out there right now to decide if anything is laughable. We have been given such limited information that anything is really still in play at this point. Like another user said we don't know if most of the balls were 12.2, 11.5 or 10.5.

Surprised given your background and normal discussion of things that you would take such a strong position with the level of info that is out there at the moment.

As I mentioned earlier also disappointing how little focus there is on the game at the moment.

The report was 2 PSI.  If that's accurate, it's laughable. 

I agree that I'd like the focus to be on the game, but let's be real: the idea that an Indy equipment manager could tell the ball was under-inflated, but Tom Brady couldn't, is silly.

My understanding was that there could be anywhere from 1-11 balls that were at that level and they were used in the first half. I may have missed some facts, but at this point from everything I have read I don't know:

1)  If all of those balls were used.

2) What levels the under inflated balls were at (were they all 10.5) were most of them 12?

3) How much weather can impact football

Like I said earlier if the patriots did really cheat and pop these balls to gain an advantage then punish them to the fullest extent of what is in the rule book. At this point, I don't feel like I know enough. I also know the super bowl is 10 days away and the only thing I have heard is a short update that Sherman and another injured Seahawk are expected to play.

[kozlodoev]

The idea that Brady can't tell the difference between the ball he supposedly hand-chose five hours previously, and an under-inflated ball, is laughable.

Roy, in my opinion, your distaste for the patriots is really impacting your comments on this subject. The truth is there really isn't enough information out there right now to decide if anything is laughable. We have been given such limited information that anything is really still in play at this point. Like another user said we don't know if most of the balls were 12.2, 11.5 or 10.5.

Surprised given your background and normal discussion of things that you would take such a strong position with the level of info that is out there at the moment.

As I mentioned earlier also disappointing how little focus there is on the game at the moment.

The report was 2 PSI.  If that's accurate, it's laughable. 

I agree that I'd like the focus to be on the game, but let's be real: the idea that an Indy equipment manager could tell the ball was under-inflated, but Tom Brady couldn't, is silly.

Unless of course the Indy equipment manager had a pressure gauge. And provided the report was accurate. And since none of us has ever handled neither an 11 PSI nor a 14 PSI ball, we're all talking out of our rear ends. Still waiting for the official NFL statement on this.

[Roy H.]

The idea that Brady can't tell the difference between the ball he supposedly hand-chose five hours previously, and an under-inflated ball, is laughable.

Roy, in my opinion, your distaste for the patriots is really impacting your comments on this subject. The truth is there really isn't enough information out there right now to decide if anything is laughable. We have been given such limited information that anything is really still in play at this point. Like another user said we don't know if most of the balls were 12.2, 11.5 or 10.5.

Surprised given your background and normal discussion of things that you would take such a strong position with the level of info that is out there at the moment.

As I mentioned earlier also disappointing how little focus there is on the game at the moment.

The report was 2 PSI.  If that's accurate, it's laughable. 

I agree that I'd like the focus to be on the game, but let's be real: the idea that an Indy equipment manager could tell the ball was under-inflated, but Tom Brady couldn't, is silly.

Agreed, but per the guy that picked off brady, he also couldn't tell the ball was deflated

He's a DB, though; he doesn't handle the ball that often.  A control freak like Brady knows if the balls he hand-selected hours ago have changed.