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Is Ainge Making Smart Decisions??
« on: January 18, 2015, 08:26:17 PM »

Offline bleedgreen333

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What's the plan with all these picks..

Re: Is Ainge Making Smart Decisions??
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2015, 08:28:21 PM »

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Pile them up and cash them in.

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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2015, 08:32:34 PM »

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Some people think Danny is making good decisions. Others think not. Posting what you think may be the way to generate some discussion in your thread.

No one here can read Danny's mind, so we don't know what his "plan" is beyond acquiring easily tradable, coveted assets that he can use to make future deals.

Look, we know one thing - Boston can't use all of these picks. It's not possible because there's simply not enough roster spots on the team to use 11 picks in the next two years. So we know they're getting moved, either to (1) trade for players (his stated preference) or (2) move up in the draft to get specific players.
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2015, 09:12:19 PM »

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Picks are like chips, you cash them at the right time.

There may be teams out there that would like to get younger at certain positions, they may have a stock pile of quality players in the backcourt. They see themselves needing a power forward to develop for their future needs. They may have traded away their own pick in the past. They may see a few college player in the coming draft that they like and would like to have an opportunity to draft them.

Guess who has extra picks to spare? 

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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2015, 09:15:21 PM »

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With the Celtics being terrible, Danny pretty much had to trade Rondo and Green, who are free agents at the end of the season.  You can argue about the return he got or the timing of the deals, but they pretty much needed to happen.

Trading all the other non-building blocks for draft picks seems wise to me.


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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2015, 09:40:08 PM »

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Some people think Danny is making good decisions. Others think not. Posting what you think may be the way to generate some discussion in your thread.

No one here can read Danny's mind, so we don't know what his "plan" is beyond acquiring easily tradable, coveted assets that he can use to make future deals.

Look, we know one thing - Boston can't use all of these picks. It's not possible because there's simply not enough roster spots on the team to use 11 picks in the next two years. So we know they're getting moved, either to (1) trade for players (his stated preference) or (2) move up in the draft to get specific players.
It's a lot of picks. I think he has already gone too far but whatever, better than nothing in return. What counts most are lottery picks and none of these acquired picks. will be.  I don't think it's easy to trade up in the NBA as is common in NFL. We shall see how Danny uses them in trades.

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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2015, 09:44:47 PM »

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The other day, Ainge said picks are easier to trade than players. I think he was saying that with players, you have to match salary and all that. Picks can be added to trade more easily.

Not sure if I agree or atleast that there is no limit to how many picks are still good but let's see what he does with all these pick. I think Ainge is doing fine.

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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2015, 09:47:26 PM »

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Some people think Danny is making good decisions. Others think not. Posting what you think may be the way to generate some discussion in your thread.

No one here can read Danny's mind, so we don't know what his "plan" is beyond acquiring easily tradable, coveted assets that he can use to make future deals.

Look, we know one thing - Boston can't use all of these picks. It's not possible because there's simply not enough roster spots on the team to use 11 picks in the next two years. So we know they're getting moved, either to (1) trade for players (his stated preference) or (2) move up in the draft to get specific players.
It's a lot of picks. I think he has already gone too far but whatever, better than nothing in return. What counts most are lottery picks and none of these acquired picks. will be.  I don't think it's easy to trade up in the NBA as is common in NFL. We shall see how Danny uses them in trades.

The Brooklyn picks -- especially the 2018 pick -- could end up as a lottery pick, and who knows what the 2019 Memphis pick will end up as. 

The second rounders will probably amount to nothing, but if Danny gambles on a bunch of Euro prospects, maybe we get lucky.


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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2015, 09:48:23 PM »

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6 first round picks in the next two years plus cap space and trade exceptions.

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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2015, 10:00:09 PM »

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6 first round picks in the next two years plus cap space and trade exceptions.
Celts rebuild started later than The Sixers, but they could easily catch up quickly depending on how Embiid looks and who the next Sixers pick is.   

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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2015, 10:20:25 PM »

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Some people think Danny is making good decisions. Others think not. Posting what you think may be the way to generate some discussion in your thread.

No one here can read Danny's mind, so we don't know what his "plan" is beyond acquiring easily tradable, coveted assets that he can use to make future deals.

Look, we know one thing - Boston can't use all of these picks. It's not possible because there's simply not enough roster spots on the team to use 11 picks in the next two years. So we know they're getting moved, either to (1) trade for players (his stated preference) or (2) move up in the draft to get specific players.
It's a lot of picks. I think he has already gone too far but whatever, better than nothing in return. What counts most are lottery picks and none of these acquired picks. will be.  I don't think it's easy to trade up in the NBA as is common in NFL. We shall see how Danny uses them in trades.

Actually, it's pretty easy to trade up in the NBA. It's not as common as in the NFL (no pro sport is), but it's fairly common.

You're not going to trade up to #1 when Shaq or Tim Duncan is waiting there, but it's remarkably easy to swap after the top 5 or so. For instance, KO was a Dallas draft pick (13th) who was traded for the 16th pick (Lucas Nogueira) and a couple of semi-protected 2nds. Rondo was the 21st pick who was traded for $3m and a future 1st.

There were only 3 trades in the 1st round of the 2014 NBA draft but 7 in 2013. So yeah, it happens quite a bit.

So let's just say the Clips pick is at 22 and there's a guy at 15 Danny wants. Clips 22 + 2016 Cleveland 1st round pick would do it. Danny gets his man and life goes on. Also, all of those picks help facilitate other deals. They grease the skids for trades between other teams. It also goes along with Danny collecting TPEs like they're going out of style - it facilitates other deals. In short, Danny is now everyone's favorite trade partner because he can help make almost any deal happen. Need to sink salary to make a deal? Danny has a TPE for that. Need a spare 2nd to make something happen? Danny has those to spare. Want to get a decent deal on a player who wants out? Danny has the tools to make that sign-and-trade without the opposing team taking on salary so they can go fill that hole.

Now the trick is that Danny has to be reactionary and can't really be proactive at this stage. He has to wait until it's trading season to be that facilitator. The trade deadline is nice, but face it not too many big deals happen at that stage. I think some fans may be mighty disappointed when there's no fireworks for the Cs at the deadline. It's leading up to the draft and on draft night that he has to wait to play with his deck of cards. Once the lottery is over and draft order is set, then Danny can really go to work. So from a fan's standpoint it can be frustrating because he can't really instigate at this stage. That cycle repeats itself in 2016 as well.

From a military standpoint, Danny is a sniper. He's just waiting patiently for his target to appear before he can pull the trigger. Until it does,he just has to suck it up and sit there.
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2015, 10:37:20 PM »

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I hope we land a top 3 pick and try to build something that we don't have to tear back down 5 years later.

Unless that is, another player on KG's level becomes available. Then I'm ok with trading those potential lottery picks.

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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2015, 10:37:42 PM »

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Maybe

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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2015, 10:56:15 PM »

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So let's just say the Clips pick is at 22 and there's a guy at 15 Danny wants. Clips 22 + 2016 Cleveland 1st round pick would do it.

It won't do it if the team at 15 wants to draft a player who they think will be available at 15 but not at 22.

To trade up, you need to find a team that wants to move down, either because they're not in love with what is available at their spot or they're in love with someone they think they can get later.
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What's the plan with all these picks..
Too early to tell. For now, ainge is just acquiring assets to take advantage of opportunities when they arise. We have to wait and see how it all works out.
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