So sick of hearing about how BAD Avery Bradley is

[LooseCannon]

I like him off the bench, nice on the ball D, and the possibility of a hot hand shooting. Good kid, full of heart.

I hate Bradley off the bench.  I'd rather have him start but not finish games than come off the bench.

[Yenohb]

Here is a IMO opinion a realistic take on AB's contract.

http://www.celticslife.com/2014/07/is-avery-bradley-overpaid-analysis-of.html

Bradley does not fit well on CBS' read and react motion type of offense due to reasons below:

- He is terrible at converting around the rim, converting only 60% of his shots from within three-feet, and a pathetic 28% from 3-10 feet. He also struggles from 10-16 feet, where he knocks down only 32% of his attempts. He's great from mid-range (44% from 16 feet to the three-point line) and above average from deep (40% on threes compared to the league average of 36%), but that inefficiency from close really hurts him. It also makes him useless (offensively) on nights where his jumper is cold, something we see quite a bit as Bradley is amazingly streaky as a shooter.
 
- He is not passable at point guard. We've seen the Celtics try time and again to get Bradley minutes at the point, and every time it has failed. He just does not have the court vision, nor the handle to succeed at the point, a fact illustrated by his 1.6 assists-per-36 minutes rate last season, one of the worst rates in the NBA by a guard.

I'm not saying he's a point guard but CBS' style of basketball needs guards who effectively dribble penetrate and finish consistently at the rim.

His defense has regressed ever since the departure of KG and PP and we have yet to see the All Defensive 2nd Team Avery Bradley from 2012-2013, for two seasons now.

In 2013-14 he allowed 0.85 ppp overall (38.2% FG) and 1.09 ppp in isolation (52.9% FG). Some of this can be credited to the loss of Kevin Garnett, as the Cs lost their last line of defense, and a guy who erased a lot of mistakes. But man, those iso numbers are ugly. In fact, Bradley went from top-10 in terms of ppp, all the way down to 342nd. That's not good.

I'm an Avery Bradley fan, but not a fan of his contract. I think his a solid 3nD guy that has a potential to be a solid role player on a championship team but 8 mil I think is too much. Qouting jambr380...

The fact is, we are apparently trying to shed as much salary as possible and AB / Wallace are the main culprits left. If we want to try and sign some big FAs (D Jordan, Butler, Dragic, Monroe, etc), we are going to need as much cap space as possible. Avery is a very good player and one that most any team would love coming off the bench as the third guard, but as a core 'star' player, he doesn't quite cut it, and that is what we should be spending our cap space on.

[bleedgreen333]

Agreed.. Just think he is a fantastic defender and has an accurate pull-up jumper, also Bradley can play both PG and SG for the celtics, his handles are a little over average and he has great stamina.. Finally he is a quick and can commit very needing turnovers

[ViolentGhandi]

since Rondo left he is cutting along the baseline more often (with and without the ball in his hand)

if he can keep that up or even improof it he will be considered a much better player - it allows him to get in some kind of a rhytem and help him thru nights when his jumper will not fall

prior to the Rondo move they had him do volume shooting - it was the same play over and over again - he came of the pick and made his mid range jumper and on some nights the bucket was nailed shut for him - that really left the impression that he was a bad shooter - its allways the bad that comes into mind when you think of him as he lacks the tools to posterize and make flashy plays. his passing got a little better as of late - he got into physics and discovered the bounce pass. I'm still a little shocked from the game in that he delivered a bounce pass and a alley-oop pass in a single game. Some ppl did go that far and claimed that he had been replaced by a conspiracy with a doppelganger. If thats the case I'm sorry for him but I keep the doppelganger - c'mon bounce passes! he can do bounce passes!, you gotta keep the evil twin.

[Celtics4ever]

Just think he is a fantastic defender

I used to think that but he doesn't seem to be able to defend and play offense the same game.   It is like he puts his energy into one of the other.  But unable to do both at the same time.  As he has been asked to put more into offense, it seems he plays less D.  I think his D has been less this year than in the past.

[clintonwalker]

Watching the game right now. AB just dribbled off his own foot saved it before the back court and then stepped over half for the violation because he's to stupid to play basketball. Followed that play up with another stupid turnover. Stuff like that is why people get down on Avery.

[kozlodoev]

Just think he is a fantastic defender

I used to think that but he doesn't seem to be able to defend and play offense the same game.   It is like he puts his energy into one of the other.  But unable to do both at the same time.  As he has been asked to put more into offense, it seems he plays less D.  I think his D has been less this year than in the past.

Bradley hasn't been anything similar to a "fantastic defender" for seasons now. He's a one-trick pony defensively, and unfortunately his trick is pretty easy to deal with -- just set a pick. That's why it stopped working once it started popping on scouting reports.

[jpotter33]

Haha I knew this thread would get bumped today with Bradley's play lol

[Rosco917]

I like him off the bench, nice on the ball D, and the possibility of a hot hand shooting. Good kid, full of heart.

I hate Bradley off the bench.  I'd rather have him start but not finish games than come off the bench.

Do really want a situation where your starting shooting guard is not, or can't be in the game at crunch time? I'm talking about a Celtic team in the near future that maybe contends, I can't see Bradley being a starting guard.

[Rondo9]

Just think he is a fantastic defender

I used to think that but he doesn't seem to be able to defend and play offense the same game.   It is like he puts his energy into one of the other.  But unable to do both at the same time.  As he has been asked to put more into offense, it seems he plays less D.  I think his D has been less this year than in the past.

Bradley hasn't been anything similar to a "fantastic defender" for seasons now. He's a one-trick pony defensively, and unfortunately his trick is pretty easy to deal with -- just set a pick. That's why it stopped working once it started popping on scouting reports.

He's still pretty good.

[JumpingJudkins]

I'm not an Avery hater ... but he is playing some unspeakably awful basketball right now.

Starting five is consistently digging hard-to-escape holes, and he's a big part of the problem.

[Celts Fan 508]

Just think he is a fantastic defender

I used to think that but he doesn't seem to be able to defend and play offense the same game.   It is like he puts his energy into one of the other.  But unable to do both at the same time.  As he has been asked to put more into offense, it seems he plays less D.  I think his D has been less this year than in the past.

Bradley hasn't been anything similar to a "fantastic defender" for seasons now. He's a one-trick pony defensively, and unfortunately his trick is pretty easy to deal with -- just set a pick. That's why it stopped working once it started popping on scouting reports.

He's still pretty good.

Pretty good at what?  He can't dribble, can't pass and can only shoot when given the ball in the perfect spot as he can't create his own offense.  He can defend, until screened, name one thing he can do much better than Smart? 

[2short]

Just think he is a fantastic defender

I used to think that but he doesn't seem to be able to defend and play offense the same game.   It is like he puts his energy into one of the other.  But unable to do both at the same time.  As he has been asked to put more into offense, it seems he plays less D.  I think his D has been less this year than in the past.

Agree Bradley has gone from a very very good on ball defender to league average.  Watch Marcus smart and there is a huge difference.  Bradley is really barely starting material on our current sucky team.  A shooting guard who is an undersized good defender, streaky shooter and very limited ball handler.  I'd hope ainge has him in a package to improve a position or move up in draft. 
And I dont think this after a "bad" game

[Mass_1081]

I was one who didn't want them to resign Bradley, but I have to admit I don't mind him out there with Smart as long as he keeps the ball moving( which he doesn't due much). He has value, even with his new contract, but I think Ainge likes him too much.

[Rosco917]

Just think he is a fantastic defender

I used to think that but he doesn't seem to be able to defend and play offense the same game.   It is like he puts his energy into one of the other.  But unable to do both at the same time.  As he has been asked to put more into offense, it seems he plays less D.  I think his D has been less this year than in the past.

Bradley hasn't been anything similar to a "fantastic defender" for seasons now. He's a one-trick pony defensively, and unfortunately his trick is pretty easy to deal with -- just set a pick. That's why it stopped working once it started popping on scouting reports.

He's still pretty good.

Pretty good at what?  He can't dribble, can't pass and can only shoot when given the ball in the perfect spot as he can't create his own offense.  He can defend, until screened, name one thing he can do much better than Smart? 

Hard to argue with ^