So sick of hearing about how BAD Avery Bradley is

[SHAQATTACK]

Well, I guess we re tanking anyway ....so we don't need him making 30 points a night shooting us into 8 th seed.

So let him brick away the next two years , and when we land a franchise player to build around ...let him go.

So Avery ...dude just brick till your hearts content

[Granath]

Well, I guess we re tanking anyway ....so we don't need him making 30 points a night shooting us into 8 th seed.

So let him brick away the next two years , and when we land a franchise player to build around ...let him go.

So Avery ...dude just brick till your hearts content

Plus, after he's done we can gather up all of those bricks and build a shelter for the homeless.

[jyyzzoel]

Do we really want to spend that much of our cap money for a guy who doesn't project to be a bona fide starting 5 player?

I'm just going to keep disagreeing that this is an accurate description of Bradley.

i dont understand how anyone can come to that conclusion unless they turn a blind eye to every single metric available to measure a players performance. just to name one - his per is 10. the AVERAGE player in the nba has a per of 15. evan turner is on 12. marcus smart is on 12. olynyk is on 16. bass is on 15, which i think is completely accurate for the reliable not so spectacular but steady bass. sully is on 18.

people could say that metrics can mislead, but the reality is it can only do so if you constantly go up against bench players it can raise your per and if you get barely any time on the court it can do the same. if you go up against starters (as avery does) and gets significant minutes throughout the season (averaging 30 mins a game this year) it is fairly accurate.

marcus thornton is on 14, but is only getting 15 mins a game this season and is usually going up against bench players, so his is probably raised and somewhat inaccurate. avery's however is fairly accurate.

the starting shooting guard of the boston celtics is a below average player in the league. if you look into other metrics - they agree and are just as bleak. he belongs on the bench - no and, ifs, or buts.

[Rondo9]

I wouldn't use per as the be all end all of measuring a player

[Rondo9]

Well, I guess we re tanking anyway ....so we don't need him making 30 points a night shooting us into 8 th seed.

So let him brick away the next two years , and when we land a franchise player to build around ...let him go.

So Avery ...dude just brick till your hearts content

Plus, after he's done we can gather up all of those bricks and build a shelter for the homeless.

Keep thinking that all he does is brick shots

[Granath]

Well, I guess we re tanking anyway ....so we don't need him making 30 points a night shooting us into 8 th seed.

So let him brick away the next two years , and when we land a franchise player to build around ...let him go.

So Avery ...dude just brick till your hearts content

Plus, after he's done we can gather up all of those bricks and build a shelter for the homeless.

Keep thinking that all he does is brick shots

I don't, but feel free to keep thinking of retorts to statements that no one has made.

[Mazingerz]

Bradley is that bad bro. Kobe Jr.

[LarBrd33]

Avery Bradley is a poor man's Avery Bradley.

[jyyzzoel]

I wouldn't use per as the be all end all of measuring a player
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there comes a point where that response is inadequate as a counter argument to how bad a player is player, especially when every other metric comes to the same conclusion.

[LooseCannon]

Do we really want to spend that much of our cap money for a guy who doesn't project to be a bona fide starting 5 player?

I'm just going to keep disagreeing that this is an accurate description of Bradley.

i dont understand how anyone can come to that conclusion unless they turn a blind eye to every single metric available to measure a players performance. just to name one - his per is 10. the AVERAGE player in the nba has a per of 15. evan turner is on 12. marcus smart is on 12. olynyk is on 16. bass is on 15, which i think is completely accurate for the reliable not so spectacular but steady bass. sully is on 18.

people could say that metrics can mislead, but the reality is it can only do so if you constantly go up against bench players it can raise your per and if you get barely any time on the court it can do the same. if you go up against starters (as avery does) and gets significant minutes throughout the season (averaging 30 mins a game this year) it is fairly accurate.

marcus thornton is on 14, but is only getting 15 mins a game this season and is usually going up against bench players, so his is probably raised and somewhat inaccurate. avery's however is fairly accurate.

the starting shooting guard of the boston celtics is a below average player in the league. if you look into other metrics - they agree and are just as bleak. he belongs on the bench - no and, ifs, or buts.

I generally regard anyone who starts off a statistical argument by citing PER as borderline retarded.

[Chris22]

Do we really want to spend that much of our cap money for a guy who doesn't project to be a bona fide starting 5 player?

I'm just going to keep disagreeing that this is an accurate description of Bradley.

i dont understand how anyone can come to that conclusion unless they turn a blind eye to every single metric available to measure a players performance. just to name one - his per is 10. the AVERAGE player in the nba has a per of 15. evan turner is on 12. marcus smart is on 12. olynyk is on 16. bass is on 15, which i think is completely accurate for the reliable not so spectacular but steady bass. sully is on 18.

people could say that metrics can mislead, but the reality is it can only do so if you constantly go up against bench players it can raise your per and if you get barely any time on the court it can do the same. if you go up against starters (as avery does) and gets significant minutes throughout the season (averaging 30 mins a game this year) it is fairly accurate.

marcus thornton is on 14, but is only getting 15 mins a game this season and is usually going up against bench players, so his is probably raised and somewhat inaccurate. avery's however is fairly accurate.

the starting shooting guard of the boston celtics is a below average player in the league. if you look into other metrics - they agree and are just as bleak. he belongs on the bench - no and, ifs, or buts.

I generally regard anyone who starts off a statistical argument by citing PER as borderline retarded.

Better to start off an argument with an insult.

[jyyzzoel]

Do we really want to spend that much of our cap money for a guy who doesn't project to be a bona fide starting 5 player?

I'm just going to keep disagreeing that this is an accurate description of Bradley.

i dont understand how anyone can come to that conclusion unless they turn a blind eye to every single metric available to measure a players performance. just to name one - his per is 10. the AVERAGE player in the nba has a per of 15. evan turner is on 12. marcus smart is on 12. olynyk is on 16. bass is on 15, which i think is completely accurate for the reliable not so spectacular but steady bass. sully is on 18.

people could say that metrics can mislead, but the reality is it can only do so if you constantly go up against bench players it can raise your per and if you get barely any time on the court it can do the same. if you go up against starters (as avery does) and gets significant minutes throughout the season (averaging 30 mins a game this year) it is fairly accurate.

marcus thornton is on 14, but is only getting 15 mins a game this season and is usually going up against bench players, so his is probably raised and somewhat inaccurate. avery's however is fairly accurate.

the starting shooting guard of the boston celtics is a below average player in the league. if you look into other metrics - they agree and are just as bleak. he belongs on the bench - no and, ifs, or buts.

I generally regard anyone who starts off a statistical argument by citing PER as borderline retarded.

obviously if someone fails to read an entire post properly then comments on it excluding the rest of the argument, also thinking that the metrics used in an argument are actually the same as statistics, is probably a borderline retard themselves.

[obnoxiousmime]

I'm sick of hearing about it too. That's why I wish he would start playing better  .

When the deal was announced I remember the common argument was that he was only 23 and would be improving. I don't see anybody now claiming he has improved this season and I think even his fans would agree he's regressed.

Anyway, I'm not bashing the guy, I just don't think he's worth his contract. It's possible that it will look very cheap in another season when the cap rises, but the money could have been put towards a FA this year that will also seem like a bargain in 2016.

I know that restricted free agency sometimes causes hard feelings, but I would have been really curious to see what kind of offers Bradley would have gotten from other teams. I can't imagine that anyone would have offered more than what Ainge ultimately gave out, which means waiting to offer the extension would probably have been the smarter move.

[slamtheking]

I'm sick of hearing about it too. That's why I wish he would start playing better  .

well that would certainly go a long ways towards solving the problem but as everyone who's been here long enough knows, there will always be detractors no matter what any player does.

Personally, I think he is what he is.  a very good defensive guard that can occasionally get hot with his shooting but too often gets into a 'chucking' mentality when he's cold.  his D hasn't been at the level it used to be when he first started getting playing time years ago so that's not helping his case.

His ballhandling and passing are poor for a guard and he has a contract that many consider to be an overpayment for his skills. 

I'd be happy with him if he got back to focussing on his D, took his shots within the flow of the offense and was a lot more careful passing the ball.  also would prefer he pass off to the PG on the floor rather than bring it up himself (or better yet, seriously work on improving that skill so he's not a TO waiting to happen or easy to mess up with a little bit of ball pressure).

[dreamgreen]

He's a decent player but he has some major flaws. He dribbled the ball of his knee 3x last night to start with .

I just don't see him being part of the solution going forward, an undersized SG that can't dribble will never be more than a bench player.

You can add Sully to that too. Big fat guy, not very athletic who should be sitting under the basket but is quickly becoming Antoine Walker 2.0 .