Clippers interested in Crowder and Turner?

[saltlover]

I genuinely believe Crowder, much like Wright, was brought in here as a piece to flip prior to the deadline.

There's a reason the deal was completed when it was... we have total flexibility to include Crowder in a package at the trade deadline.

But if he keeps playing like he's playing, it might be tough for Danny to stick to the plan.  I still think he'd rather cash in on Crowder now than potentially have him eating up cap space next year.

According to Hoops Hype, Crowder has a qualifying offer next season for just $118,000.  If that's the case, he's not going anywhere.

Mike

Either you've misread it or hoopshype mistyped it.  His QO is 1.18 mil. QO's are always more than the min salary, which is 950k next year.  Still, he will not take up much cap space next summer until after he signs a new deal.

[Monkhouse]

I genuinely believe Crowder, much like Wright, was brought in here as a piece to flip prior to the deadline.

There's a reason the deal was completed when it was... we have total flexibility to include Crowder in a package at the trade deadline.

But if he keeps playing like he's playing, it might be tough for Danny to stick to the plan.  I still think he'd rather cash in on Crowder now than potentially have him eating up cap space next year.

But with all that cap space, who should the Celtics go for that is worth a max player?

If Marc Gasol isn't available, and he's not leaving Memphis, it might be best to maintain that cap space so you can take in a disgruntled superstar in a trade.  3 #1's for Cousins might look pretty good to Sacramento next season.

Mike

1st 2015 Celtics/Clippers, 1st Nets 2016, Nets 2018, 1st Mavericks, 3 second rounders, Jared Sullinger, Avery Bradley, Tyler Zeller. We also take on one bad contract like Landry. Would you do it?

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

I genuinely believe Crowder, much like Wright, was brought in here as a piece to flip prior to the deadline.

There's a reason the deal was completed when it was... we have total flexibility to include Crowder in a package at the trade deadline.

But if he keeps playing like he's playing, it might be tough for Danny to stick to the plan.  I still think he'd rather cash in on Crowder now than potentially have him eating up cap space next year.

that might of been the case when the trade happened. Not right now.  What you going to get for crowder a late 2nd?

Crowder is quickly becoming a celtic favorite and CBS already loves his toughness. 

Danny is not going to trade him

Good.  Sell high. 

Trying not to be a prisoner of the moment here.  A couple solid games doesn't make him a mainstay.  He's been in this league for a while.  He's a solid role player that will help a contender.  He's not a franchise cornerstone that needs to be locked up.

He's been in the league for a while? Like Zeller and Sully? I don't mind DA selling everyone on the team (of course I would be sad, especially if it's AB but I'll be good to go next game) but why does he have to ship out any and every player? You are being a prisoner of the moment, it's just that your time is further away than some. Your moment seems to be the off season, wanting DA to do any and all deals to clear up money for that time.

[NYDan]

I genuinely believe Crowder, much like Wright, was brought in here as a piece to flip prior to the deadline.

There's a reason the deal was completed when it was... we have total flexibility to include Crowder in a package at the trade deadline.

But if he keeps playing like he's playing, it might be tough for Danny to stick to the plan.  I still think he'd rather cash in on Crowder now than potentially have him eating up cap space next year.

that might of been the case when the trade happened. Not right now.  What you going to get for crowder a late 2nd?

Crowder is quickly becoming a celtic favorite and CBS already loves his toughness. 

Danny is not going to trade him

Good.  Sell high. 

Trying not to be a prisoner of the moment here.  A couple solid games doesn't make him a mainstay.  He's been in this league for a while.  He's a solid role player that will help a contender.  He's not a franchise cornerstone that needs to be locked up.

I appreciate that you're going about this analytically over emotionally but I think you're selling Crowder short in the process. 2 years is not what I would consider a while in the NBA, and he's never really had the minutes or opportunity to prove himself as anything more than what you've pegged him as until coming to Boston.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

I genuinely believe Crowder, much like Wright, was brought in here as a piece to flip prior to the deadline.

There's a reason the deal was completed when it was... we have total flexibility to include Crowder in a package at the trade deadline.

But if he keeps playing like he's playing, it might be tough for Danny to stick to the plan.  I still think he'd rather cash in on Crowder now than potentially have him eating up cap space next year.

But with all that cap space, who should the Celtics go for that is worth a max player?

If Marc Gasol isn't available, and he's not leaving Memphis, it might be best to maintain that cap space so you can take in a disgruntled superstar in a trade.  3 #1's for Cousins might look pretty good to Sacramento next season.

Mike

1st 2015 Celtics/Clippers, 1st Nets 2016, Nets 2018, 1st Mavericks, 3 second rounders, Jared Sullinger, Avery Bradley, Tyler Zeller. We also take on one bad contract like Landry. Would you do it?

yikes. That hurt my brain. My first thought was trade everything we can. Then I thought about it. What are we left with? Wouldn't we be as bad or worse than the Kings are right now? Trading for players like these makes my head hurt just thinking about it. I'll just wait on DA to do w/e because I would probably have our team in shambles if I were the GM.

[TheFlex]

I genuinely believe Crowder, much like Wright, was brought in here as a piece to flip prior to the deadline.

There's a reason the deal was completed when it was... we have total flexibility to include Crowder in a package at the trade deadline.

But if he keeps playing like he's playing, it might be tough for Danny to stick to the plan.  I still think he'd rather cash in on Crowder now than potentially have him eating up cap space next year.

But with all that cap space, who should the Celtics go for that is worth a max player?

If Marc Gasol isn't available, and he's not leaving Memphis, it might be best to maintain that cap space so you can take in a disgruntled superstar in a trade.  3 #1's for Cousins might look pretty good to Sacramento next season.

Mike

1st 2015 Celtics/Clippers, 1st Nets 2016, Nets 2018, 1st Mavericks, 3 second rounders, Jared Sullinger, Avery Bradley, Tyler Zeller. We also take on one bad contract like Landry. Would you do it?

That's a massive overpay. I'd offer two 1sts - not including our 2015 1st - along with a couple of seconds, KO, Bradley and Zeller, and the opportunity to dump an unfavorable contract.

[LarBrd33]

I genuinely believe Crowder, much like Wright, was brought in here as a piece to flip prior to the deadline.

There's a reason the deal was completed when it was... we have total flexibility to include Crowder in a package at the trade deadline.

But if he keeps playing like he's playing, it might be tough for Danny to stick to the plan.  I still think he'd rather cash in on Crowder now than potentially have him eating up cap space next year.

that might of been the case when the trade happened. Not right now.  What you going to get for crowder a late 2nd?

Crowder is quickly becoming a celtic favorite and CBS already loves his toughness. 

Danny is not going to trade him

Good.  Sell high. 

Trying not to be a prisoner of the moment here.  A couple solid games doesn't make him a mainstay.  He's been in this league for a while.  He's a solid role player that will help a contender.  He's not a franchise cornerstone that needs to be locked up.

He's been in the league for a while? Like Zeller and Sully? I don't mind DA selling everyone on the team (of course I would be sad, especially if it's AB but I'll be good to go next game) but why does he have to ship out any and every player? You are being a prisoner of the moment, it's just that your time is further away than some. Your moment seems to be the off season, wanting DA to do any and all deals to clear up money for that time.

Sell high on Zeller and Turner too. 

[Roy H.]

I genuinely believe Crowder, much like Wright, was brought in here as a piece to flip prior to the deadline.

There's a reason the deal was completed when it was... we have total flexibility to include Crowder in a package at the trade deadline.

But if he keeps playing like he's playing, it might be tough for Danny to stick to the plan.  I still think he'd rather cash in on Crowder now than potentially have him eating up cap space next year.

But with all that cap space, who should the Celtics go for that is worth a max player?

If Marc Gasol isn't available, and he's not leaving Memphis, it might be best to maintain that cap space so you can take in a disgruntled superstar in a trade.  3 #1's for Cousins might look pretty good to Sacramento next season.

Mike

1st 2015 Celtics/Clippers, 1st Nets 2016, Nets 2018, 1st Mavericks, 3 second rounders, Jared Sullinger, Avery Bradley, Tyler Zeller. We also take on one bad contract like Landry. Would you do it?

That's a massive overpay. I'd offer two 1sts - not including our 2015 1st - along with a couple of seconds, KO, Bradley and Zeller, and the opportunity to dump an unfavorable contract.

It's probably an overpay, but I think I'd pull the trigger.

The only problem is that you really need to surround Boogie with good players, because he gets frustrated with losing.

[moiso]

Cousins gets frustrated with everything.

[Roy H.]

Cousins gets frustrated with everything.

I don't know; he's played really under control this year, and the Kings are over .500 with him in the lineup.

[MBunge]

I genuinely believe Crowder, much like Wright, was brought in here as a piece to flip prior to the deadline.

There's a reason the deal was completed when it was... we have total flexibility to include Crowder in a package at the trade deadline.

But if he keeps playing like he's playing, it might be tough for Danny to stick to the plan.  I still think he'd rather cash in on Crowder now than potentially have him eating up cap space next year.

But with all that cap space, who should the Celtics go for that is worth a max player?

If Marc Gasol isn't available, and he's not leaving Memphis, it might be best to maintain that cap space so you can take in a disgruntled superstar in a trade.  3 #1's for Cousins might look pretty good to Sacramento next season.

Mike

1st 2015 Celtics/Clippers, 1st Nets 2016, Nets 2018, 1st Mavericks, 3 second rounders, Jared Sullinger, Avery Bradley, Tyler Zeller. We also take on one bad contract like Landry. Would you do it?

You can't give up 4 firsts for anyone except Durant or Anthony Davis.

Mike

[rondohondo]

Cousins gets frustrated with everything.

I don't know; he's played really under control this year, and the Kings are over .500 with him in the lineup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFPG8aapllw

He whines like a ..... every game

Great talent, and if he was the final piece to the puzzel I would definitely trade a lot for him(see Rasheed Wallace 2004) , but until we have those pieces in place we should try and develop a winning, hard nosed , no nonsense culture .

That's why we are getting rid of all the veteran complaining (Nelson , prince , possibly thorton ) .  Smart, Crowder, AB ( though I think we can obviously upgrade ) all bring that hard nosed style . We might be able to draft Stanley Johnson next year too, which would just add to that . I would concentrate on that more before trying to make a big splash with a questionable attitude .

[Roy H.]

He whines like a ..... every game

Are you basing that on one game?

Guys with as many or more techs than Cousins this year:  Markieff Morris, Russell Westbrook, Blake Griffin, Matt Barnes, Eric Bledsoe, Tyson Chandler, DeAndre Jordan, Aaron Brooks, Roy Hibbert, O.J. Mayo, Joakim Noah, Tony Allen, Marcus Morris, John Wall, P.J. Tucker, Kevin Garnett

[inverselock]

Cousins gets frustrated with everything.

I don't know; he's played really under control this year, and the Kings are over .500 with him in the lineup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFPG8aapllw

He whines like a ..... every game

Great talent, and if he was the final piece to the puzzel I would definitely trade a lot for him(see Rasheed Wallace 2004) , but until we have those pieces in place we should try and develop a winning, hard nosed , no nonsense culture .

That's why we are getting rid of all the veteran complaining (Nelson , prince , possibly thorton ) .  Smart, Crowder, AB ( though I think we can obviously upgrade ) all bring that hard nosed style . We might be able to draft Stanley Johnson next year too, which would just add to that . I would concentrate on that more before trying to make a big splash with a questionable attitude .

http://i.imgur.com/vN77zdX.gifv

Something is wrong with his brain.

[PickNRoll]

Re: Crowder, the Clips have nothing to offer.  Re-sign him  after this year to a reasonable deal.

Regarding the Boogie deal, that's just too much.  Brooklyn's prospects are bleak and our 2015 pick is going to be good.  You could give up something like 3 #5 overall picks, a #18 and 3 second rounders.  That's nuts.