Clippers interested in Crowder and Turner?

[saltlover]

yes to turner, no to crowder

Doesn't it always depend on what you're getting back?  Always bugged by people that are "willing" to trade players they don't value much but not those that they do value.

Of course it does, people are more willing to trade Turner but only if they can get back some value.

what can they give us back for Crowder other than a late 1st rd pick, we already have tons of those . I want hard nosed players that are you know , actually players and somewhat proven in the league .  Chances we get a better player than Crowder in the late first rd is maybe 25% ?

Give me Crowder all day , unless Danny has no plans to re-sign him .

Obviously you are thinking about trades in simple terms.  Lots of ways to get something else from any team in the NBA.  And of course, the point is to get value for value.  If you don't like what you are getting, then don't trade.  The issue is that posters only want to trade guys they don't mind losing.  That will get you nowhere fast.

And I am not suggesting that we trade Crowder.  I like him too.  But there are a few guys in the entire league that are untradeable (except for each other).  Everyone else depends on the price.

Exactly.  The Crowders of the world are glue you put around the core of your team to make it better.  I think he's valuable glue, but we don't have a star core of the team yet.  You get that core either by drafting it, trading for it, or signing it as free agents.  The trades for stars are largely centered around draft picks, not glue guys.  Using free agency requires cap room, which means again you add the glue guys later.  Obviously drafting them speaks for itself.

That doesn't mean you trade Crowder at any price, but it also means that you have a price.  Danny certainly has it, and the league certainly knows what it is.  It might have even gone up with his recent play.  Ainge's goal has always been to build around stars -- and every player is a means to that end.

[LarBrd33]

They don't really have any picks until 2020 that they can trade.

They have several outgoing 1sts and 2nds.

Has there ever been any hint that they'd move DeAndre Jordan before the deadline?  He's an unrestricted free agent.  Do they have any fear he'd leave?  I have no idea why they'd trade him, though... seems like he'd be impossible to replace this year as they push for a title.

[NYDan]

Too early to flip Crowder. He's young, cheap, hard working, good character, had an instant impact on the team and might be a keeper. I have faith that as much as Danny likes to deal he knows which chips to hold onto, it's not like we're hurting for mediocre picks or assets for the coming rebuild.

Turner seems to be an integral piece to this year's team as well and on a good contract. Pretty much a known quantity and less attached to him as a Celtic but I doubt Stevens would be happy to see him go in a fire sale.

And +1 to the point about not helping the Clippers this season. If anything we're subtly trying to push them down the playoff ladder for a better pick, not give them a boost. Rivers deal included.

[Chris22]

In addition to the trade, the Grizzlies are paying the Celtics $1 million dollars for Jeff Green.

Trader Danny.

[Chris22]

Too early to flip Crowder. He's young, cheap, hard working, good character, had an instant impact on the team and might be a keeper. I have faith that as much as Danny likes to deal he knows which chips to hold onto, it's not like we're hurting for mediocre picks or assets for the coming rebuild. Turner seems to be an integral piece to this year's team as well and on a good contract. Pretty much a known quantity and less attached to him as a Celtic but I doubt Stevens would be happy to see him go in a fire sale.

And +1 to the point about not helping the Clippers this season. If anything we're subtly trying to push them down the playoff ladder for a better pick, not give them a boost. Rivers deal included.

Trade Austin Rivers to them. They might miss the playoffs.

[Quetzalcoatl]

I would love to keep guys like Bradley, Crowder and Bass if I thought we were going to be able to have a chance at a couple big name players.  We need these guys if we want to win eventually and Crowder is only 24

[LarBrd33]

I genuinely believe Crowder, much like Wright, was brought in here as a piece to flip prior to the deadline.

There's a reason the deal was completed when it was... we have total flexibility to include Crowder in a package at the trade deadline.

But if he keeps playing like he's playing, it might be tough for Danny to stick to the plan.  I still think he'd rather cash in on Crowder now than potentially have him eating up cap space next year. 

[Tr1boy]

I genuinely believe Crowder, much like Wright, was brought in here as a piece to flip prior to the deadline.

There's a reason the deal was completed when it was... we have total flexibility to include Crowder in a package at the trade deadline.

But if he keeps playing like he's playing, it might be tough for Danny to stick to the plan.  I still think he'd rather cash in on Crowder now than potentially have him eating up cap space next year.

that might of been the case when the trade happened. Not right now.  What you going to get for crowder a late 2nd?

Crowder is quickly becoming a celtic favorite and CBS already loves his toughness. 

Danny is not going to trade him

[KingofDaPlayazBall]

I genuinely believe Crowder, much like Wright, was brought in here as a piece to flip prior to the deadline.

There's a reason the deal was completed when it was... we have total flexibility to include Crowder in a package at the trade deadline.

But if he keeps playing like he's playing, it might be tough for Danny to stick to the plan.  I still think he'd rather cash in on Crowder now than potentially have him eating up cap space next year.

Your wrong, nobody on the team deserves salary more than Crowder.  Flip Olynlyk, Zeller, and Turner.  They are the real trade peices.

[Monkhouse]

I genuinely believe Crowder, much like Wright, was brought in here as a piece to flip prior to the deadline.

There's a reason the deal was completed when it was... we have total flexibility to include Crowder in a package at the trade deadline.

But if he keeps playing like he's playing, it might be tough for Danny to stick to the plan.  I still think he'd rather cash in on Crowder now than potentially have him eating up cap space next year.

But with all that cap space, who should the Celtics go for that is worth a max player?

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Don't give the Clips any player that can help them. I don't care if it's Turner or Crowder. Answer the phone and tell them "once we use your pick, call me back!" then hang up. It's not likely either of our guys we would be willing to part with and they can afford would help them out a lot but don't chance it. LOL unless we had a headcase to send them! You know what, not even then, Doc might be just the coach to get them to calm down throughout the season.

[MBunge]

I genuinely believe Crowder, much like Wright, was brought in here as a piece to flip prior to the deadline.

There's a reason the deal was completed when it was... we have total flexibility to include Crowder in a package at the trade deadline.

But if he keeps playing like he's playing, it might be tough for Danny to stick to the plan.  I still think he'd rather cash in on Crowder now than potentially have him eating up cap space next year.

According to Hoops Hype, Crowder has a qualifying offer next season for just $118,000.  If that's the case, he's not going anywhere.

Mike

[LarBrd33]

I genuinely believe Crowder, much like Wright, was brought in here as a piece to flip prior to the deadline.

There's a reason the deal was completed when it was... we have total flexibility to include Crowder in a package at the trade deadline.

But if he keeps playing like he's playing, it might be tough for Danny to stick to the plan.  I still think he'd rather cash in on Crowder now than potentially have him eating up cap space next year.

that might of been the case when the trade happened. Not right now.  What you going to get for crowder a late 2nd?

Crowder is quickly becoming a celtic favorite and CBS already loves his toughness. 

Danny is not going to trade him

Good.  Sell high. 

Trying not to be a prisoner of the moment here.  A couple solid games doesn't make him a mainstay.  He's been in this league for a while.  He's a solid role player that will help a contender.  He's not a franchise cornerstone that needs to be locked up. 

[Tr1boy]

Doc : Danny listen, give me Crowder.   You helped Rondo and Green. What about me man??

Danny: hang up the phone

[MBunge]

I genuinely believe Crowder, much like Wright, was brought in here as a piece to flip prior to the deadline.

There's a reason the deal was completed when it was... we have total flexibility to include Crowder in a package at the trade deadline.

But if he keeps playing like he's playing, it might be tough for Danny to stick to the plan.  I still think he'd rather cash in on Crowder now than potentially have him eating up cap space next year.

But with all that cap space, who should the Celtics go for that is worth a max player?

If Marc Gasol isn't available, and he's not leaving Memphis, it might be best to maintain that cap space so you can take in a disgruntled superstar in a trade.  3 #1's for Cousins might look pretty good to Sacramento next season.

Mike