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Celtics salaries for next three seasons
« on: January 11, 2015, 08:16:22 PM »

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Re: Celtics salaries for next three seasons
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2015, 08:24:37 PM »

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Even though it's something most fans on this site already knew, it still gets you excited reading articles like that.

Re: Celtics salaries for next three seasons
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2015, 08:50:21 PM »

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This is why I don't agree with people that say we wont be able to get a legit FA to sign with Boston.

DA also has been bringing in kids during the draft that he has no chance at getting just for this reason. He could make a move for some one like Barnes who's been lost in the shuffle of Goldenstate. But still has a ton of upside. OR Batum who may not get what he could get if LA or Lillard get payed first.

Between the freed up cap space and picks it should be a heck of a couple years.

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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2015, 08:58:54 PM »

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This is why I don't agree with people that say we wont be able to get a legit FA to sign with Boston.

Oh, we will have money.

But we are a cold weather town, in a nice market.   Players that do well here are nigh worshiped.  But the brutal winter is not a good selling point.

We also have no one on our team who will draw interest from other players.  Rondo was that guy and he was gone.   I really do not see guys saying I want to play with Sullinger or Olynyk, unless they want to look better perhaps.

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This is why I don't agree with people that say we wont be able to get a legit FA to sign with Boston.

Oh, we will have money.

But we are a cold weather town, in a nice market.   Players that do well here are nigh worshiped.  But the brutal winter is not a good selling point.

We also have no one on our team who will draw interest from other players.  Rondo was that guy and he was gone.   I really do not see guys saying I want to play with Sullinger or Olynyk, unless they want to look better perhaps.

I agree it'll be hard to bring in a top tier FA. But, its possible the Cs could make a run at a decent "1A" type FA. And also the Cs figure to be potential trade partners, with the TEs and the space and the picks. So, there are multiple possibilities here.
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2015, 09:16:41 PM »

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This is why I don't agree with people that say we wont be able to get a legit FA to sign with Boston.

Wishful thinking won't make things better.
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2015, 09:32:50 PM »

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This is why I don't agree with people that say we wont be able to get a legit FA to sign with Boston.

Oh, we will have money.

But we are a cold weather town, in a nice market.   Players that do well here are nigh worshiped.  But the brutal winter is not a good selling point.

We also have no one on our team who will draw interest from other players.  Rondo was that guy and he was gone.   I really do not see guys saying I want to play with Sullinger or Olynyk, unless they want to look better perhaps.


If nice weather is how you get players to come, then why did it take the Clippers, and Worriors so long to become good. Why does Sac still stink, and why is no one rushing to Orlando, or The PHX?

Yeah for some players it might come into play, but so could and extra 3 or 5 mill. I'd take the extra cash and book a vacation to a very warm place right after the season ended to thaw out my back side.

With the CBA is hard to sign more than two players to a big contract and have a good bench. Look at Cleveland, it's Miami all over again. GM's are going to notice this. And right now if you can get a guy for around 18 or 20 mill . In 2017 the cap jumps 20 mill. That gives you a ton of wiggle room to work with since you already have a guy signed under the older cap.

It's really hard to say, we can go back and forth about this over and over again, but we haven't been in this position for a very, very long time. We are still a bit fresh with having a winning team for an extending period of time, so it's not like we're the Bucks.

Plus didn't Lowry pick Toronto over Miami? I think Boston has a bit more cred than Toronto. So I'd say nothing is impossible.

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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2015, 09:37:42 PM »

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This is why I don't agree with people that say we wont be able to get a legit FA to sign with Boston.

Wishful thinking won't make things better.

Well I'll be the optimist and you can be the party pooper. :D

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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2015, 09:45:50 PM »

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This is why I don't agree with people that say we wont be able to get a legit FA to sign with Boston.

Oh, we will have money.

But we are a cold weather town, in a nice market.   Players that do well here are nigh worshiped.  But the brutal winter is not a good selling point.

We also have no one on our team who will draw interest from other players.  Rondo was that guy and he was gone.   I really do not see guys saying I want to play with Sullinger or Olynyk, unless they want to look better perhaps.

I agree it'll be hard to bring in a top tier FA. But, its possible the Cs could make a run at a decent "1A" type FA. And also the Cs figure to be potential trade partners, with the TEs and the space and the picks. So, there are multiple possibilities here.

This is part of why I advocate going after Paul Millsap and Omer Asik, two underrated players who probably won't get the max but seem likely to be willing to go to the highest bidder instead of taking less money to stay in their current situations.
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2015, 11:11:58 PM »

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There's really no need to be overly pessimistic about our FA chances.

Sure we're not as attractive as NY/LA/Texas, but beyond that I can't name a whole lot of clubs that are more attractive than us in the abstract. If Charlotte, Atlanta, and Detroit can get decent free agents to sign for them, so can we.

Having a ****ty roster obviously limits us somewhat, but there are always young players who would find being "the man" on a well-run team with plenty of growth potential to be more attractive than taking a shot at immediate success.



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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2015, 07:11:47 AM »

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There's really no need to be overly pessimistic about our FA chances.

Sure we're not as attractive as NY/LA/Texas, but beyond that I can't name a whole lot of clubs that are more attractive than us in the abstract. If Charlotte, Atlanta, and Detroit can get decent free agents to sign for them, so can we.

Having a ****ty roster obviously limits us somewhat, but there are always young players who would find being "the man" on a well-run team with plenty of growth potential to be more attractive than taking a shot at immediate success.

Exactly right. TP for you.

It's not as if Boston has the Black Plague.  has rarely had the cap space to bid on a decent FA, so there's not much of a track record. The lack of talent on the current team won't draw big names, but the team won't have problems getting players to come.
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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2015, 07:34:20 AM »

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I like the cap and asset situation DA has brought together. I think he had a plan slightly different then the typical "dump everyone" tank. By dragging it out he may have costs the Cs a couple of draft spots in the last draft but has built a treasure chest of pieces.

With Free agency I think the Cs will be a pest next offseason and maybe also in 2016. What I mean by this is like houston a couple offseasons ago when they stole away Asik and Lin the Cs will have money to steal players away or force teams to pay their RFAs top dollar. This off-season guys like Leonard, Butler, Green, Jordan, Monroe, Harris and R Jackson will all likely get phone calls from DA and non of them will be retained by their current teams for anything less then top market value.
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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2015, 09:32:35 AM »

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were the winters warmer when KG and Ray Allen signed...?  Which also represents the last time we had cap space to sign anyone.

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So, can the Celtics use those TE to perhaps offer a team in tax level to "swap" 1st for taking on the last year of a contract.  Not the Celtics actual pick, but maybe the Clipper pick?  Or the future Dallas pick?


The team really doesn't need another pick, but the ability to chose between the better of two picks may be helpful. 


But only for contracts in the last year.

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were the winters warmer when KG and Ray Allen signed...?  Which also represents the last time we had cap space to sign anyone.


Not signed, traded.



And KG was basically block the move until both Pierce and Allen where here.