Ideas for what to do with all these draft pick (serious or otherwise)

[Vermont Green]

2015
Boston First
Clippers First

Boston Second
Phili Second
Washington Second (maybe)

2016
Boston First
Dallas First
Brooklyn First
Cleveland First

Minni Second
Phili Second
Cleveland Second
Dal/Mem Second
Miami Second

2017
Brooklyn Swap

Minni Second
Cleveland Second

2018
Boston First
Brooklyn First
Memphis First

Boston Second

OK, my head is spinning with all these trades and draft picks.  Based on information from the RealGM website, the above is what I think we have coming.

2015 doesn't look too bad, we have 2 firsts and 2 seconds.  Say the firsts make the team and one or both of the seconds are "stashed", no problem for the roster.

In 2016, we likely will have 4 firsts (although possible that the Dallas pick slips to 2017) and 5 seconds.  How in the world do we hold on to the rights for 9 additional players?  I guess we could draft all 15 year old Europeans with the second round picks and see what happens (although I think they would have to actually declare for the draft).

2017, we can swap with Brooklyn with the hope that we are better than them by then and if we swap, we owe them a second in return so the tally for 2017 is likely 1 first and 2 seconds.  That sounds like a good offering.

In 2018, we could have 3 firsts (I am assuming a Memphis first in 2018) and one second.  That is still kind of a lot of picks for one year but maybe Memphis' becomes a 2019 which I would like better.

I am sure that there will be draft night deals, especially in 2016 where we could trade a current pick for a future pick plus maybe an added future second which could be a good strategy.  For example if we trade 2 of the 2016 firsts for better firsts in 2019 or 2020, that would be a good deal.

Actually, my outrageous conspiracy theory is that the owners plan to use all of these picks to start their own expansion team in 2016-17 in Cambridge (Boston will be like NY or LA with two teams).  They can get a stadium for free because they will have to build one for the Olympics.  Or they could use all of the second round picks for the new team and have it be part of the European league.  The Cambridge Celtics of the Euro-whatever league.  Sounds European right?

[Who]

Consolidate picks and try to move up the draft to get a single higher value pick.

Like the Rockets did in 2001 when they traded 3 first rounders to move up into the lottery. They traded the #13, #18 and #23 picks to get the #7 overall pick.

[saltlover]

Given the current standings, we are very likely to receive Washington's 2nd this year.  I don't know how you could forget given our paucity of picks!   

[Vermont Green]

Given the current standings, we are very likely to receive Washington's 2nd this year.  I don't know how you could forget given our paucity of picks!   

I had left that one off thinking that Washington might not play well enough that it would not convey.  I added it is as a maybe based on your comment as you are right, right now we would get that pick also (another second to stash somewhere).

[MBunge]

Consolidate picks and try to move up the draft to get a single higher value pick.

Like the Rockets did in 2001 when they traded 3 first rounders to move up into the lottery. They traded the #13, #18 and #23 picks to get the #7 overall pick.

This seems most likely.  No one is going to give up a top 3 or top 5 for multiple lower picks but 7-10 should be gettable.

Mike

[Vermont Green]

Consolidate picks and try to move up the draft to get a single higher value pick.

Like the Rockets did in 2001 when they traded 3 first rounders to move up into the lottery. They traded the #13, #18 and #23 picks to get the #7 overall pick.

That turned out being Eddie Griffin for Richard Jefferson, Jason Collins, and Brandon Armstrong.  Not sure who won that trade.  In 2014, that trade would have been Randle for Zack Lavine, Tyler Ennis, and Rodney Hood.

In the current draft environment, I am not sure if we can get value moving up this way or not.  If you can get good value, that is a viable approach.  I think trading one current for one or more future picks may be a better way to get more value and spread out the assets over time.  To do a 3 for 1 trade up, you would have to be very sure about the 1 you are trading up for and that is really hard to do (to be sure about a player you are drafting).

[footey]

Consolidate picks and try to move up the draft to get a single higher value pick.

Like the Rockets did in 2001 when they traded 3 first rounders to move up into the lottery. They traded the #13, #18 and #23 picks to get the #7 overall pick.

Not a good trade for Houston.

If Belichick ran the Celtics, we would just as likely trade down for more draft picks, LOL.

[saltlover]

Given the current standings, we are very likely to receive Washington's 2nd this year.  I don't know how you could forget given our paucity of picks!   

I had left that one off thinking that Washington might play well enough that it would not convey.  I added it is as a maybe based on your comment.  I guess it is kind of 50-50.

They have to play well enough for it to convey.  We only get it if they pick between 50 and 60, which means they have one of the best 11 records in basketball.  Currently they're in a 3-way tie for the 5th best record, so we're much more likely to receive it than not.  Of course, given the number of picks we have, this is one that probably gets sold to someone on draft night.

[manl_lui]

Consolidate picks and try to move up the draft to get a single higher value pick.

Like the Rockets did in 2001 when they traded 3 first rounders to move up into the lottery. They traded the #13, #18 and #23 picks to get the #7 overall pick.

This seems most likely.  No one is going to give up a top 3 or top 5 for multiple lower picks but 7-10 should be gettable.

Mike

judging our record and direction of this team, it seems we are headed towards another lottery. You think we can package some of those picks and our lottery pick to trade it to a #1 pick this year and grab Okafor?

[Vermont Green]

Given the current standings, we are very likely to receive Washington's 2nd this year.  I don't know how you could forget given our paucity of picks!   

I had left that one off thinking that Washington might play well enough that it would not convey.  I added it is as a maybe based on your comment.  I guess it is kind of 50-50.

They have to play well enough for it to convey.  We only get it if they pick between 50 and 60, which means they have one of the best 11 records in basketball.  Currently they're in a 3-way tie for the 5th best record, so we're much more likely to receive it than not.  Of course, given the number of picks we have, this is one that probably gets sold to someone on draft night.

Yes, you are correct.  It terms of selling these second round picks, if there is a team that wants one of our surplus second rounders, why not trade say a 2015 second for a 2019 second or something like that.  I hope we don't just sell them off in the short term.  If we can push some of the extras out a few years, we would have a second chance to actually use the pick as pick or in a trade or just sell it in the future.

[acieEarl]

I wouldn't think any team is trading the top pick, but if Philly gets the #1 (good chance) they might think about trading with us, say we get the 4 pick. They have a young center in the waiting with Embiid and may pass on Oakafor. Thou, I doubt Philly wants any more youth on their team as they are loaded with youth and inexperience.

Consolidate picks and try to move up the draft to get a single higher value pick.

Like the Rockets did in 2001 when they traded 3 first rounders to move up into the lottery. They traded the #13, #18 and #23 picks to get the #7 overall pick.

This seems most likely.  No one is going to give up a top 3 or top 5 for multiple lower picks but 7-10 should be gettable.

Mike

judging our record and direction of this team, it seems we are headed towards another lottery. You think we can package some of those picks and our lottery pick to trade it to a #1 pick this year and grab Okafor?

[saltlover]

Consolidate picks and try to move up the draft to get a single higher value pick.

Like the Rockets did in 2001 when they traded 3 first rounders to move up into the lottery. They traded the #13, #18 and #23 picks to get the #7 overall pick.

This seems most likely.  No one is going to give up a top 3 or top 5 for multiple lower picks but 7-10 should be gettable.

Mike

judging our record and direction of this team, it seems we are headed towards another lottery. You think we can package some of those picks and our lottery pick to trade it to a #1 pick this year and grab Okafor?

Depends what happens in the lottery.  If Philly wins it, and we've got a top 5 pick, I think the answer is unequivocally yes.  They already have Noel and Embiid, and are determining that Noel can't play PF.  The price would be very high, because it's Hinkie and all, but there would be a price, and we'd have the assets to meet it if we chose.  If New York wins it, probably not, because they (rightfully so in my opinion) will try to use having the #1 overall and Carmelo Anthony on the roster to lure a max player (Rondo) as a free agent.  While they're bereft of future picks, they're playing for next year.  Probably also couldn't trade with Minnesota.  After that, who knows?  The Celtics are two games out of the playoffs and two games out of the 4th-worst record in the NBA.  Obviously a lot of teams are in the same position, and it's really anyone's guess as to who will finish with high lottery odds.

[saltlover]

Given the current standings, we are very likely to receive Washington's 2nd this year.  I don't know how you could forget given our paucity of picks!   

I had left that one off thinking that Washington might play well enough that it would not convey.  I added it is as a maybe based on your comment.  I guess it is kind of 50-50.

They have to play well enough for it to convey.  We only get it if they pick between 50 and 60, which means they have one of the best 11 records in basketball.  Currently they're in a 3-way tie for the 5th best record, so we're much more likely to receive it than not.  Of course, given the number of picks we have, this is one that probably gets sold to someone on draft night.

Yes, you are correct.  It terms of selling these second round picks, if there is a team that wants one of our surplus second rounders, why not trade say a 2015 second for a 2019 second or something like that.  I hope we don't just sell them off in the short term.  If we can push some of the extras out a few years, we would have a second chance to actually use the pick as pick or in a trade or just sell it in the future.

I also agree that getting a 2021 2nd rounder would make more sense -- it just seems that the currency in the NBA is cash for picks after 50, and if the Celtics have little-to-no use for it, cash is what it will probably become.  And to be fair to ownership, they're paying Marcus Thornton $8 million for a future 1st, so it's not like they're cheapskates.  I'd prefer it not come to that, but it is a business, and the management has shown they're willing to reinvest that money into the product in other ways.

[tazzmaniac]

Consolidate picks and try to move up the draft to get a single higher value pick.

Like the Rockets did in 2001 when they traded 3 first rounders to move up into the lottery. They traded the #13, #18 and #23 picks to get the #7 overall pick.

That turned out being Eddie Griffin for Richard Jefferson, Jason Collins, and Brandon Armstrong.  Not sure who won that trade.  In 2014, that trade would have been Randle for Zack Lavine, Tyler Ennis, and Rodney Hood.

In the current draft environment, I am not sure if we can get value moving up this way or not.  If you can get good value, that is a viable approach.  I think trading one current for one or more future picks may be a better way to get more value and spread out the assets over time.  To do a 3 for 1 trade up, you would have to be very sure about the 1 you are trading up for and that is really hard to do (to be sure about a player you are drafting).

You can't be sure about any draft pick.  Ainge would only trade up if there was someone he really liked as Chicago did last draft when they traded their 2 picks to move up and draft McDermott.  I could also see Ainge keeping all the 1sts and seeing who pans out.     

[Evantime34]

We need to use our pick for a superstar. Whether that means trade up in the draft for one or trade for one. If we were to trade for one I could see it being DeMarcus Cousins.

My dream scenario is that we pick one player from the following group and use our picks to trade up for another
Okafor
Towns
WCS
Winslow
Johnson
Oubre
Looney
Russell