Tyler Zeller or Mason Plumlee?

[TwinTower14]

Plumlee by a mile.

However, we have done an effective job increasing Zeller's value by showcasing his strengths while avoiding overexposing him.  Hopefully we will cash out on this asset by the deadline.

Plumlee by a mile??? why because he can jump high??  Zeller is a more efficient scorer, better free throw shooter and may be the best Center in the NBA in terms of running rim to rim....

Their numbers are basically identical and Zeller does it in 12 less minutes a game...

I think Plumlee is so overrated, Zeller has gotten the best of him during their match-ups and that dates all the way back to college.  DA getting Zeller was such a steal, he is a nice C in the NBA....

[littleteapot]

Plumlee by a mile.

However, we have done an effective job increasing Zeller's value by showcasing his strengths while avoiding overexposing him.  Hopefully we will cash out on this asset by the deadline.

Plumlee by a mile??? why because he can jump high??  Zeller is a more efficient scorer, better free throw shooter and may be the best Center in the NBA in terms of running rim to rim....

Their numbers are basically identical and Zeller does it in 12 less minutes a game...

I think Plumlee is so overrated, Zeller has gotten the best of him during their match-ups and that dates all the way back to college.  DA getting Zeller was such a steal, he is a nice C in the NBA....

When Plumlee "jumps high" in generally results in him getting to a rebound he shouldn't be able to get to or preventing a layup.

[TwinTower14]

Plumlee by a mile.

However, we have done an effective job increasing Zeller's value by showcasing his strengths while avoiding overexposing him.  Hopefully we will cash out on this asset by the deadline.

Plumlee by a mile??? why because he can jump high??  Zeller is a more efficient scorer, better free throw shooter and may be the best Center in the NBA in terms of running rim to rim....

Their numbers are basically identical and Zeller does it in 12 less minutes a game...

I think Plumlee is so overrated, Zeller has gotten the best of him during their match-ups and that dates all the way back to college.  DA getting Zeller was such a steal, he is a nice C in the NBA....

When Plumlee "jumps high" in generally results in him getting to a rebound he shouldn't be able to get to or preventing a layup.

Well he must not be jumping that high, that often because he averages 6 rebounds a game in 31 minutes....Zeller is a better, more efficient, well rounded basketball player.  If you want a guy that can catch lobs and is very athletic then Plumlee is your guy...

[littleteapot]

Well he must not be jumping that high, that often because he averages 6 rebounds a game in 31 minutes....Zeller is a better, more efficient, well rounded basketball player.  If you want a guy that can catch lobs and is very athletic then Plumlee is your guy...

Zeller has a RB% of 14.8 this year compared to Plumlee with 17.3%. They both have a DRB% of around 20% but Plumlee has an ORB% of 13.3% to Zeller's 8.8%.

I agree Zeller is slightly more versatile offensively, but I don't think he doesn't anything so spectacular that it makes up for being considerably worse as a guy to lock down the paint and win the rebounding game.

[TwinTower14]

Well he must not be jumping that high, that often because he averages 6 rebounds a game in 31 minutes....Zeller is a better, more efficient, well rounded basketball player.  If you want a guy that can catch lobs and is very athletic then Plumlee is your guy...

Zeller has a RB% of 14.8 this year compared to Plumlee with 17.3%. They both have a DRB% of around 20% but Plumlee has an ORB% of 13.3% to Zeller's 8.8%.

I think Zeller is slightly more versatile offensively, but I don't think he doesn't anything so spectacular that it makes up for being considerably worse as a guy to lock down the paint and win the rebounding game.

Zeller also shoots 62% from the field and 85% from the line - Plumlee is 56% from the field and 46% from the line...

Zeller is at worst Plumlee's equal, IMO he is a better all around player than Plumlee...

[littleteapot]

Well he must not be jumping that high, that often because he averages 6 rebounds a game in 31 minutes....Zeller is a better, more efficient, well rounded basketball player.  If you want a guy that can catch lobs and is very athletic then Plumlee is your guy...

Zeller has a RB% of 14.8 this year compared to Plumlee with 17.3%. They both have a DRB% of around 20% but Plumlee has an ORB% of 13.3% to Zeller's 8.8%.

I think Zeller is slightly more versatile offensively, but I don't think he doesn't anything so spectacular that it makes up for being considerably worse as a guy to lock down the paint and win the rebounding game.

Zeller also shoots 62% from the field and 85% from the line - Plumlee is 56% from the field and 46% from the line...

Zeller is at worst Plumlee's equal, IMO he is a better all around player than Plumlee...

IMO both of those are guys who shouldn't get the ball unless they're wide open in the paint or a littler guy is guarding them. In those situations Zeller is certainly better, but I don't think either is really offering much in that department. I think Plumlee negates this deficiency by getting a couple of offensive rebounds, and then on the other end he's much better than Zeller.

[Mencius]

Zeller has a RB% of 14.8 this year compared to Plumlee with 17.3%. They both have a DRB% of around 20% but Plumlee has an ORB% of 13.3% to Zeller's 8.8%.

I agree Zeller is slightly more versatile offensively, but I don't think he doesn't anything so spectacular that it makes up for being considerably worse as a guy to lock down the paint and win the rebounding game.

Zeller is so much better than I expected him to be.  I basically only watch Plumlee when we play them, but it's (barely) enough to form a few opinions.   I like him, too.  I like the physicality he plays with.  He's a better defender than Zeller, but Zeller's no slouch there, either.  Zeller's more refined offensively.  There's not huge separation between them in my book, but if I had a gun to my head, I'd probably opt for the defense, which means Plumlee.

Now, a more interesting question is Plumlee or Low T (Kelly).  We could have drafted Plumlee instead of Kelly.  I understand that Kelly has skills, and if he had toughness to go along with them, I'd easily opt for Kelly.  But I just don't like soft bigs, and Kelly is just a better version of Brad Lohaus in my book.  I like a big to play like a big, not like a finesse softy.

[Rosco917]

Plumlee is much more aggressive on the defensive end. He's a better rebounder, a better rim protector, and he plays in general with much more energy.

Zeller is smoother on the offensive end. Has better hands, his pick and roll game is a nice asset.

I'd have to go with Plumlee by a small amount.  I like Zeller, he has value though.

[Who]

Plumlee = superior athleticism and physicality vs Ty Zeller. Better able to matchup physically against starting caliber athletes at the center position. Both guys are pretty limited and are fairly mediocre overall players at center position.

Ideally, both guys are bench players rather than starters.

[Tr1boy]

Plumlee = superior athleticism and physicality vs Ty Zeller. Better able to matchup physically against starting caliber athletes at the center position. Both guys are pretty limited and are fairly mediocre overall players at center position.

Ideally, both guys are bench players rather than starters.

Plumlee is not anymore physical than zeller.  Both dont shy away from contact.  Plumlee is more explosive but zeller a better shooter , touch around the basket

Not one stands out over the other at the moment.

 If plumlee could hit his fts at 70 percent or better , he would be ahead

[DesertDweller]

I just re-watched the Celtics Nets game and these 2 guys played very well.

I feel like they are almost equal as players, they both shoot high percentages near the basket, they both run the floor very well, both are smart basketball players.

Plumlee has the athleticism advantage, but Zeller is a better shooter.

If you guys had the power to choose who would it be?

Tyler or Mason?

I said, when we first got Tyler from Cleveland that he was better than people were giving him credit for because the Cavs couldn't use him properly.  this kid want's to play and if he gets the chance from the Celtics he will pay dividends and Ainge once again, will have pulled one off!!!

[PickNRoll]

Plumlee by a mile.

However, we have done an effective job increasing Zeller's value by showcasing his strengths while avoiding overexposing him.  Hopefully we will cash out on this asset by the deadline.

Plumlee by a mile??? why because he can jump high??  Zeller is a more efficient scorer, better free throw shooter and may be the best Center in the NBA in terms of running rim to rim....

Their numbers are basically identical and Zeller does it in 12 less minutes a game...

I think Plumlee is so overrated, Zeller has gotten the best of him during their match-ups and that dates all the way back to college.  DA getting Zeller was such a steal, he is a nice C in the NBA....

In the last 10-11 games, after Plumlee got out of the doghouse and off the bench, their per 36 numbers are basically identical.  Plumlee is shooting a ridiculous 70% over the last 11 games.  Can't really say that Zeller is more efficient.  I don't think there's a statistical case for either guy, but Plumlee is definitely trending the right direction.

[Celtics4ever]

Athletic edge always yields more potential.   It does not guarantee success though.  Plumlee has more potential than Zeller.   I think that Zeller right now is a better NBA player.  He is near his ceiling though with added strength, veteran caginess and improved shot all he can add to his game.   

I think Zeller uses his strengths better than Plumlee, he plays within his game as well as any big we have had lately.   He doesn't try to be something he is not ( like Jared "Kyle Korver" Sullinger) and plays within himself.

Mason Plumlee is a good athlete with a 36" max vertical.  Tyler Zeller's is a 34".  Their brothers are even better.  Cody Zeller has a  mac vertical  of  37.5" and Miles Plumlee has a  max vertical 40.5".  Cody can jump 35.5" with no step, the highest ever no step  for a player over 6'9" for the combine's history.

Some guys can jump and not play.   Some guys who can't jump can play sometimes but a guy who can do both will always have a definite edge.