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Re: DeAndre Kane Drawing Interest From Celtics, Kings, Jazz
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2015, 07:10:13 PM »

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Miss Rondo's gaudy triple doubles? 

Consider this:Kane is the only player in NCAA history to have amassed more than 2,000 points, 700 rebounds and 600 assists.

He is tough as nails.  Imagine Smart, Kane and Crowder together defending the perimeter.

But can any of them shoot?

Can Rondo shoot?

Not really. And as good as he was/is at other things, his poor shooting was often detrimental.
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Re: DeAndre Kane Drawing Interest From Celtics, Kings, Jazz
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Miss Rondo's gaudy triple doubles? 

Consider this:Kane is the only player in NCAA history to have amassed more than 2,000 points, 700 rebounds and 600 assists.

He is tough as nails.  Imagine Smart, Kane and Crowder together defending the perimeter.

This x5. Did phenomenal things for Iowa St last year. Took them deep into the tourney after arguably the best of their "big 3" went down. Would be a welcome addition.
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Re: DeAndre Kane Drawing Interest From Celtics, Kings, Jazz
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2015, 07:31:40 PM »

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Something to keep in mind about Kane: He's 3 months older than Jimmy Butler, who was on the older side for a draftee back in 2011.

You know a lot of people go to college for seven years



I dont care if he went to college for 10 years, if he can play, lets give him a shot.

By the looks of things in Iowa State, he probably can be an NBA player. What's there to lose, other than a roster spot and some guaranteed money (which in NBA terms, is chump change).
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Re: DeAndre Kane Drawing Interest From Celtics, Kings, Jazz
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2015, 07:43:53 PM »

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Miss Rondo's gaudy triple doubles? 

Consider this:Kane is the only player in NCAA history to have amassed more than 2,000 points, 700 rebounds and 600 assists.

He is tough as nails.  Imagine Smart, Kane and Crowder together defending the perimeter.

This x5. Did phenomenal things for Iowa St last year. Took them deep into the tourney after arguably the best of their "big 3" went down. Would be a welcome addition.

I watched pretty much every ISU game last year that Kane played.  (ISU alum here...)  Kane def outplayed smart in the two ISU/OKS games, but those games were freaking wars and Smart played pretty well also. 

Kane is probably more able to be a true point guard right now than smart.  I think Kane's ability to penetrate might be a bit better than Smarts, even though Smarts def is probably a notch higher.  Last year Smart got so much guff for all the flopping he did.  I am glad that has at least been toned down this year and he is just playing tough d for the most part.

A Kane/Smart/Crowder lineup would be brutal on the opposing teams offense, but almost just as bad on us as well.  Kane is a similar shooter to Smart, he is very streaky from the 3 point line.  He did seem to be better able to get to the rim and still be productive when his outside shot wasn't falling.  Very few games was he ever just not productive.  Great passer as well.  Eh probably won't even get a chance here, but I thought people might want to know a bit more.

Re: DeAndre Kane Drawing Interest From Celtics, Kings, Jazz
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Re: DeAndre Kane Drawing Interest From Celtics, Kings, Jazz
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http://www.csnne.com/blog/celtics-talk/report-celtics-interest-deandre-kane

If we get Kane, i hope Nelson is out.

Nelson has a player option for 3.25 mil next year which I'm sure he'll exercise, so moving him might get tricky. Either way, I doubt they'll cut him loose before trying to find a way to move him.

Re: DeAndre Kane Drawing Interest From Celtics, Kings, Jazz
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2015, 11:56:06 PM »

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Miss Rondo's gaudy triple doubles? 

Consider this:Kane is the only player in NCAA history to have amassed more than 2,000 points, 700 rebounds and 600 assists.

He is tough as nails.  Imagine Smart, Kane and Crowder together defending the perimeter.

This x5. Did phenomenal things for Iowa St last year. Took them deep into the tourney after arguably the best of their "big 3" went down. Would be a welcome addition.

I watched pretty much every ISU game last year that Kane played.  (ISU alum here...)  Kane def outplayed smart in the two ISU/OKS games, but those games were freaking wars and Smart played pretty well also. 

Kane is probably more able to be a true point guard right now than smart.  I think Kane's ability to penetrate might be a bit better than Smarts, even though Smarts def is probably a notch higher.  Last year Smart got so much guff for all the flopping he did.  I am glad that has at least been toned down this year and he is just playing tough d for the most part.

A Kane/Smart/Crowder lineup would be brutal on the opposing teams offense, but almost just as bad on us as well.  Kane is a similar shooter to Smart, he is very streaky from the 3 point line.  He did seem to be better able to get to the rim and still be productive when his outside shot wasn't falling.  Very few games was he ever just not productive.  Great passer as well.  Eh probably won't even get a chance here, but I thought people might want to know a bit more.

Cool you're an alum - you know him well, then. I followed him closely last year because I just really appreciated his game. I actually remember making a post about how surprised I was he wasn't even on some draft boards... or very late in second round, at best (despite his age). Agree that he is more NBA-ready, esp at the PG position. I think a strength of his in the NBA could be his ability to penetrate and score/dish. He was prolific at getting in the paint against top competition in college.. and he has great size to finish at the rim... off the bounce, or in transition.
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Re: DeAndre Kane Drawing Interest From Celtics, Kings, Jazz
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2015, 12:14:12 AM »

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Miss Rondo's gaudy triple doubles? 

Consider this:Kane is the only player in NCAA history to have amassed more than 2,000 points, 700 rebounds and 600 assists.

He is tough as nails.  Imagine Smart, Kane and Crowder together defending the perimeter.

This x5. Did phenomenal things for Iowa St last year. Took them deep into the tourney after arguably the best of their "big 3" went down. Would be a welcome addition.

I watched pretty much every ISU game last year that Kane played.  (ISU alum here...)  Kane def outplayed smart in the two ISU/OKS games, but those games were freaking wars and Smart played pretty well also. 

Kane is probably more able to be a true point guard right now than smart.  I think Kane's ability to penetrate might be a bit better than Smarts, even though Smarts def is probably a notch higher.  Last year Smart got so much guff for all the flopping he did.  I am glad that has at least been toned down this year and he is just playing tough d for the most part.

A Kane/Smart/Crowder lineup would be brutal on the opposing teams offense, but almost just as bad on us as well.  Kane is a similar shooter to Smart, he is very streaky from the 3 point line.  He did seem to be better able to get to the rim and still be productive when his outside shot wasn't falling.  Very few games was he ever just not productive.  Great passer as well.  Eh probably won't even get a chance here, but I thought people might want to know a bit more.

Cool you're an alum - you know him well, then. I followed him closely last year because I just really appreciated his game. I actually remember making a post about how surprised I was he wasn't even on some draft boards... or very late in second round, at best (despite his age). Agree that he is more NBA-ready, esp at the PG position. I think a strength of his in the NBA could be his ability to penetrate and score/dish. He was prolific at getting in the paint against top competition in college.. and he has great size to finish at the rim... off the bounce, or in transition.

Yes, I think just a bit more NBA ready to play PG now is the key.  Deandre might be a good short term backup point guard that could play some 2 as well if DA decides to deal Nelson and Green (where Turner might be required to move to the 3 spot).  As a big 12 fan I would love to see Smart and Kane play here together even if for a season or two.  If we don't pick up any major vets, I wouldn't mind a back court rotation of Turner, Smart, AB, Kane.  I just don't know if Turner is trade bait this year or not?  The roster is in complete flux right now.

I mean I understand why Kane slid in last years draft (age), but after watching them head to head last year, and Kane really dominating the big 12 tourney and the ncaa's for a few games it makes me wonder why some team wouldn't take a chance at least for a 2nd round pick.

Re: DeAndre Kane Drawing Interest From Celtics, Kings, Jazz
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2015, 12:33:11 AM »

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Miss Rondo's gaudy triple doubles? 

Consider this:Kane is the only player in NCAA history to have amassed more than 2,000 points, 700 rebounds and 600 assists.

He is tough as nails.  Imagine Smart, Kane and Crowder together defending the perimeter.

This x5. Did phenomenal things for Iowa St last year. Took them deep into the tourney after arguably the best of their "big 3" went down. Would be a welcome addition.

I watched pretty much every ISU game last year that Kane played.  (ISU alum here...)  Kane def outplayed smart in the two ISU/OKS games, but those games were freaking wars and Smart played pretty well also. 

Kane is probably more able to be a true point guard right now than smart.  I think Kane's ability to penetrate might be a bit better than Smarts, even though Smarts def is probably a notch higher.  Last year Smart got so much guff for all the flopping he did.  I am glad that has at least been toned down this year and he is just playing tough d for the most part.

A Kane/Smart/Crowder lineup would be brutal on the opposing teams offense, but almost just as bad on us as well.  Kane is a similar shooter to Smart, he is very streaky from the 3 point line.  He did seem to be better able to get to the rim and still be productive when his outside shot wasn't falling.  Very few games was he ever just not productive.  Great passer as well.  Eh probably won't even get a chance here, but I thought people might want to know a bit more.

Cool you're an alum - you know him well, then. I followed him closely last year because I just really appreciated his game. I actually remember making a post about how surprised I was he wasn't even on some draft boards... or very late in second round, at best (despite his age). Agree that he is more NBA-ready, esp at the PG position. I think a strength of his in the NBA could be his ability to penetrate and score/dish. He was prolific at getting in the paint against top competition in college.. and he has great size to finish at the rim... off the bounce, or in transition.

Yes, I think just a bit more NBA ready to play PG now is the key.  Deandre might be a good short term backup point guard that could play some 2 as well if DA decides to deal Nelson and Green (where Turner might be required to move to the 3 spot).  As a big 12 fan I would love to see Smart and Kane play here together even if for a season or two.  If we don't pick up any major vets, I wouldn't mind a back court rotation of Turner, Smart, AB, Kane.  I just don't know if Turner is trade bait this year or not?  The roster is in complete flux right now.

I mean I understand why Kane slid in last years draft (age), but after watching them head to head last year, and Kane really dominating the big 12 tourney and the ncaa's for a few games it makes me wonder why some team wouldn't take a chance at least for a 2nd round pick.

Same. Regardless of age, not even taking a flier on his seemed pretty wild to me. I do hope we get a shot at him.

No clue what the plans are for Turner, either. Based on all our acquisitions and moves since KG and PP left, I'd assume he is trade bait. If so, he helped us out quite a bit against Chi the other night. He makes the most sense, among all our players, to be trade bait imo... came in with tons of question marks, and is being handed the ball to run the offense, green light and all.
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Re: DeAndre Kane Drawing Interest From Celtics, Kings, Jazz
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2015, 12:45:53 AM »

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Miss Rondo's gaudy triple doubles? 

Consider this:Kane is the only player in NCAA history to have amassed more than 2,000 points, 700 rebounds and 600 assists.

He is tough as nails.  Imagine Smart, Kane and Crowder together defending the perimeter.

This x5. Did phenomenal things for Iowa St last year. Took them deep into the tourney after arguably the best of their "big 3" went down. Would be a welcome addition.

I watched pretty much every ISU game last year that Kane played.  (ISU alum here...)  Kane def outplayed smart in the two ISU/OKS games, but those games were freaking wars and Smart played pretty well also. 

Kane is probably more able to be a true point guard right now than smart.  I think Kane's ability to penetrate might be a bit better than Smarts, even though Smarts def is probably a notch higher.  Last year Smart got so much guff for all the flopping he did.  I am glad that has at least been toned down this year and he is just playing tough d for the most part.

A Kane/Smart/Crowder lineup would be brutal on the opposing teams offense, but almost just as bad on us as well.  Kane is a similar shooter to Smart, he is very streaky from the 3 point line.  He did seem to be better able to get to the rim and still be productive when his outside shot wasn't falling.  Very few games was he ever just not productive.  Great passer as well.  Eh probably won't even get a chance here, but I thought people might want to know a bit more.

Cool you're an alum - you know him well, then. I followed him closely last year because I just really appreciated his game. I actually remember making a post about how surprised I was he wasn't even on some draft boards... or very late in second round, at best (despite his age). Agree that he is more NBA-ready, esp at the PG position. I think a strength of his in the NBA could be his ability to penetrate and score/dish. He was prolific at getting in the paint against top competition in college.. and he has great size to finish at the rim... off the bounce, or in transition.

Yes, I think just a bit more NBA ready to play PG now is the key.  Deandre might be a good short term backup point guard that could play some 2 as well if DA decides to deal Nelson and Green (where Turner might be required to move to the 3 spot).  As a big 12 fan I would love to see Smart and Kane play here together even if for a season or two.  If we don't pick up any major vets, I wouldn't mind a back court rotation of Turner, Smart, AB, Kane.  I just don't know if Turner is trade bait this year or not?  The roster is in complete flux right now.

I mean I understand why Kane slid in last years draft (age), but after watching them head to head last year, and Kane really dominating the big 12 tourney and the ncaa's for a few games it makes me wonder why some team wouldn't take a chance at least for a 2nd round pick.

Same. Regardless of age, not even taking a flier on his seemed pretty wild to me. I do hope we get a shot at him.

No clue what the plans are for Turner, either. Based on all our acquisitions and moves since KG and PP left, I'd assume he is trade bait. If so, he helped us out quite a bit against Chi the other night. He makes the most sense, among all our players, to be trade bait imo... came in with tons of question marks, and is being handed the ball to run the offense, green light and all.

But you can't say regardless of age.  It's entirely because of age.  He dominated because he was 3-6 years older than the players he was up against -- you can't ignore that.  There are a lot of potential Deandre Kane's in the world, except they graduate in four years and go onto Euro leagues and the D-Leagues... There's no reason to waste a draft pick on a guy who really isn't that unique other than being oldet than everyone he played against.

I too watched him and was a fan, but if I were an NBA team I'd have wanted to see how he played against people his own age before giving him a spot on my team.  I might have given him a training camp invite with a small amount of guaranteed money this year, I guess, but he was simply not draft pick worthy.

Re: DeAndre Kane Drawing Interest From Celtics, Kings, Jazz
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2015, 01:00:14 AM »

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Miss Rondo's gaudy triple doubles? 

Consider this:Kane is the only player in NCAA history to have amassed more than 2,000 points, 700 rebounds and 600 assists.

He is tough as nails.  Imagine Smart, Kane and Crowder together defending the perimeter.

This x5. Did phenomenal things for Iowa St last year. Took them deep into the tourney after arguably the best of their "big 3" went down. Would be a welcome addition.

I watched pretty much every ISU game last year that Kane played.  (ISU alum here...)  Kane def outplayed smart in the two ISU/OKS games, but those games were freaking wars and Smart played pretty well also. 

Kane is probably more able to be a true point guard right now than smart.  I think Kane's ability to penetrate might be a bit better than Smarts, even though Smarts def is probably a notch higher.  Last year Smart got so much guff for all the flopping he did.  I am glad that has at least been toned down this year and he is just playing tough d for the most part.

A Kane/Smart/Crowder lineup would be brutal on the opposing teams offense, but almost just as bad on us as well.  Kane is a similar shooter to Smart, he is very streaky from the 3 point line.  He did seem to be better able to get to the rim and still be productive when his outside shot wasn't falling.  Very few games was he ever just not productive.  Great passer as well.  Eh probably won't even get a chance here, but I thought people might want to know a bit more.

Cool you're an alum - you know him well, then. I followed him closely last year because I just really appreciated his game. I actually remember making a post about how surprised I was he wasn't even on some draft boards... or very late in second round, at best (despite his age). Agree that he is more NBA-ready, esp at the PG position. I think a strength of his in the NBA could be his ability to penetrate and score/dish. He was prolific at getting in the paint against top competition in college.. and he has great size to finish at the rim... off the bounce, or in transition.

Yes, I think just a bit more NBA ready to play PG now is the key.  Deandre might be a good short term backup point guard that could play some 2 as well if DA decides to deal Nelson and Green (where Turner might be required to move to the 3 spot).  As a big 12 fan I would love to see Smart and Kane play here together even if for a season or two.  If we don't pick up any major vets, I wouldn't mind a back court rotation of Turner, Smart, AB, Kane.  I just don't know if Turner is trade bait this year or not?  The roster is in complete flux right now.

I mean I understand why Kane slid in last years draft (age), but after watching them head to head last year, and Kane really dominating the big 12 tourney and the ncaa's for a few games it makes me wonder why some team wouldn't take a chance at least for a 2nd round pick.

Same. Regardless of age, not even taking a flier on his seemed pretty wild to me. I do hope we get a shot at him.

No clue what the plans are for Turner, either. Based on all our acquisitions and moves since KG and PP left, I'd assume he is trade bait. If so, he helped us out quite a bit against Chi the other night. He makes the most sense, among all our players, to be trade bait imo... came in with tons of question marks, and is being handed the ball to run the offense, green light and all.

But you can't say regardless of age.  It's entirely because of age.  He dominated because he was 3-6 years older than the players he was up against -- you can't ignore that.  There are a lot of potential Deandre Kane's in the world, except they graduate in four years and go onto Euro leagues and the D-Leagues... There's no reason to waste a draft pick on a guy who really isn't that unique other than being oldet than everyone he played against.

I too watched him and was a fan, but if I were an NBA team I'd have wanted to see how he played against people his own age before giving him a spot on my team.  I might have given him a training camp invite with a small amount of guaranteed money this year, I guess, but he was simply not draft pick worthy.

Well with the typical success of late 2nd round picks, I would think getting an NBA ready player that would at least be productive for a couple years as a bench / rotational player might be worth it rather than a gamble on developing talent.  I think it depends on who is drafting late in the 2nd round and what those teams (probably contenders) needs are.

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Miss Rondo's gaudy triple doubles? 

Consider this:Kane is the only player in NCAA history to have amassed more than 2,000 points, 700 rebounds and 600 assists.

He is tough as nails.  Imagine Smart, Kane and Crowder together defending the perimeter.

This x5. Did phenomenal things for Iowa St last year. Took them deep into the tourney after arguably the best of their "big 3" went down. Would be a welcome addition.

I watched pretty much every ISU game last year that Kane played.  (ISU alum here...)  Kane def outplayed smart in the two ISU/OKS games, but those games were freaking wars and Smart played pretty well also. 

Kane is probably more able to be a true point guard right now than smart.  I think Kane's ability to penetrate might be a bit better than Smarts, even though Smarts def is probably a notch higher.  Last year Smart got so much guff for all the flopping he did.  I am glad that has at least been toned down this year and he is just playing tough d for the most part.

A Kane/Smart/Crowder lineup would be brutal on the opposing teams offense, but almost just as bad on us as well.  Kane is a similar shooter to Smart, he is very streaky from the 3 point line.  He did seem to be better able to get to the rim and still be productive when his outside shot wasn't falling.  Very few games was he ever just not productive.  Great passer as well.  Eh probably won't even get a chance here, but I thought people might want to know a bit more.

Cool you're an alum - you know him well, then. I followed him closely last year because I just really appreciated his game. I actually remember making a post about how surprised I was he wasn't even on some draft boards... or very late in second round, at best (despite his age). Agree that he is more NBA-ready, esp at the PG position. I think a strength of his in the NBA could be his ability to penetrate and score/dish. He was prolific at getting in the paint against top competition in college.. and he has great size to finish at the rim... off the bounce, or in transition.

Yes, I think just a bit more NBA ready to play PG now is the key.  Deandre might be a good short term backup point guard that could play some 2 as well if DA decides to deal Nelson and Green (where Turner might be required to move to the 3 spot).  As a big 12 fan I would love to see Smart and Kane play here together even if for a season or two.  If we don't pick up any major vets, I wouldn't mind a back court rotation of Turner, Smart, AB, Kane.  I just don't know if Turner is trade bait this year or not?  The roster is in complete flux right now.

I mean I understand why Kane slid in last years draft (age), but after watching them head to head last year, and Kane really dominating the big 12 tourney and the ncaa's for a few games it makes me wonder why some team wouldn't take a chance at least for a 2nd round pick.

Same. Regardless of age, not even taking a flier on his seemed pretty wild to me. I do hope we get a shot at him.

No clue what the plans are for Turner, either. Based on all our acquisitions and moves since KG and PP left, I'd assume he is trade bait. If so, he helped us out quite a bit against Chi the other night. He makes the most sense, among all our players, to be trade bait imo... came in with tons of question marks, and is being handed the ball to run the offense, green light and all.

But you can't say regardless of age.  It's entirely because of age.  He dominated because he was 3-6 years older than the players he was up against -- you can't ignore that.  There are a lot of potential Deandre Kane's in the world, except they graduate in four years and go onto Euro leagues and the D-Leagues... There's no reason to waste a draft pick on a guy who really isn't that unique other than being oldet than everyone he played against.

I too watched him and was a fan, but if I were an NBA team I'd have wanted to see how he played against people his own age before giving him a spot on my team.  I might have given him a training camp invite with a small amount of guaranteed money this year, I guess, but he was simply not draft pick worthy.

Well with the typical success of late 2nd round picks, I would think getting an NBA ready player that would at least be productive for a couple years as a bench / rotational player might be worth it rather than a gamble on developing talent.  I think it depends on who is drafting late in the 2nd round and what those teams (probably contenders) needs are.

I don't agree at all.  If you want a 3rd string point guard who's never played in the NBA before in a minimum deal and is 25, there are plenty of ex-collegians in Europe, doing exactly what Kane is doing. In a solid draft like last year, there was a host of younger talent available.  The only difference with Kane is he had some bumps in the road on his way to becoming a college star, and so dominated much younger competition last year, so we remember him looking impressive, as opposed to all those other player's we as fans have forgotten.

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Miss Rondo's gaudy triple doubles? 

Consider this:Kane is the only player in NCAA history to have amassed more than 2,000 points, 700 rebounds and 600 assists.

He is tough as nails.  Imagine Smart, Kane and Crowder together defending the perimeter.

This x5. Did phenomenal things for Iowa St last year. Took them deep into the tourney after arguably the best of their "big 3" went down. Would be a welcome addition.

I watched pretty much every ISU game last year that Kane played.  (ISU alum here...)  Kane def outplayed smart in the two ISU/OKS games, but those games were freaking wars and Smart played pretty well also. 

Kane is probably more able to be a true point guard right now than smart.  I think Kane's ability to penetrate might be a bit better than Smarts, even though Smarts def is probably a notch higher.  Last year Smart got so much guff for all the flopping he did.  I am glad that has at least been toned down this year and he is just playing tough d for the most part.

A Kane/Smart/Crowder lineup would be brutal on the opposing teams offense, but almost just as bad on us as well.  Kane is a similar shooter to Smart, he is very streaky from the 3 point line.  He did seem to be better able to get to the rim and still be productive when his outside shot wasn't falling.  Very few games was he ever just not productive.  Great passer as well.  Eh probably won't even get a chance here, but I thought people might want to know a bit more.

Cool you're an alum - you know him well, then. I followed him closely last year because I just really appreciated his game. I actually remember making a post about how surprised I was he wasn't even on some draft boards... or very late in second round, at best (despite his age). Agree that he is more NBA-ready, esp at the PG position. I think a strength of his in the NBA could be his ability to penetrate and score/dish. He was prolific at getting in the paint against top competition in college.. and he has great size to finish at the rim... off the bounce, or in transition.

Yes, I think just a bit more NBA ready to play PG now is the key.  Deandre might be a good short term backup point guard that could play some 2 as well if DA decides to deal Nelson and Green (where Turner might be required to move to the 3 spot).  As a big 12 fan I would love to see Smart and Kane play here together even if for a season or two.  If we don't pick up any major vets, I wouldn't mind a back court rotation of Turner, Smart, AB, Kane.  I just don't know if Turner is trade bait this year or not?  The roster is in complete flux right now.

I mean I understand why Kane slid in last years draft (age), but after watching them head to head last year, and Kane really dominating the big 12 tourney and the ncaa's for a few games it makes me wonder why some team wouldn't take a chance at least for a 2nd round pick.

Same. Regardless of age, not even taking a flier on his seemed pretty wild to me. I do hope we get a shot at him.

No clue what the plans are for Turner, either. Based on all our acquisitions and moves since KG and PP left, I'd assume he is trade bait. If so, he helped us out quite a bit against Chi the other night. He makes the most sense, among all our players, to be trade bait imo... came in with tons of question marks, and is being handed the ball to run the offense, green light and all.

But you can't say regardless of age.  It's entirely because of age.  He dominated because he was 3-6 years older than the players he was up against -- you can't ignore that.  There are a lot of potential Deandre Kane's in the world, except they graduate in four years and go onto Euro leagues and the D-Leagues... There's no reason to waste a draft pick on a guy who really isn't that unique other than being oldet than everyone he played against.

I too watched him and was a fan, but if I were an NBA team I'd have wanted to see how he played against people his own age before giving him a spot on my team.  I might have given him a training camp invite with a small amount of guaranteed money this year, I guess, but he was simply not draft pick worthy.

Well with the typical success of late 2nd round picks, I would think getting an NBA ready player that would at least be productive for a couple years as a bench / rotational player might be worth it rather than a gamble on developing talent.  I think it depends on who is drafting late in the 2nd round and what those teams (probably contenders) needs are.

I don't agree at all.  If you want a 3rd string point guard who's never played in the NBA before in a minimum deal and is 25, there are plenty of ex-collegians in Europe, doing exactly what Kane is doing. In a solid draft like last year, there was a host of younger talent available.  The only difference with Kane is he had some bumps in the road on his way to becoming a college star, and so dominated much younger competition last year, so we remember him looking impressive, as opposed to all those other player's we as fans have forgotten.

Well sure there are tons of undrafted players out there scrapping out in europe and asia looking for the chance to get a call to the nba.  But a lot those players are developing players that are no where nba ready. 

It completely depends on the team.  Kane isn't a 3rd string player on our team.  He would be getting rotation minutes.  He is night and day above Pressey imho.

Eh we disagree, no biggie.

Re: DeAndre Kane Drawing Interest From Celtics, Kings, Jazz
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2015, 08:06:53 AM »

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There is a reason he went undrafted by every team. This is no more than a lateral move and I am sick of that. This helps us minimally if at all so I say pass. Another role player does not get us where I want to be. There are exceptions but most NBA ready players are already playing in the NBA.

Re: DeAndre Kane Drawing Interest From Celtics, Kings, Jazz
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2015, 09:01:05 AM »

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There is a reason he went undrafted by every team. This is no more than a lateral move and I am sick of that. This helps us minimally if at all so I say pass. Another role player does not get us where I want to be. There are exceptions but most NBA ready players are already playing in the NBA.

We dont get to the top that quickly and that easy. In NBA terms, we got very little if not nothing to lose and something to gain if we give DeAndre Kane a shot.

We're not getting to the Playoffs this year, nor be competitive, so if we can, lets see if we can get some diamonds in the rough out there. If Kane pans out, he could either be a part of the team moving forward or be a part of a move that could potentially bring us closer to where we want to be, like what you probably want. And there isn't a ton of risk involved here. It's not like we're paying him $5 million and be stuck with us for three years eating our cap room...
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