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Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2015, 10:15:37 PM »

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If he played like that every night we wouldn't have.
But we would have had arguments about whether he was worth a max contract.

Maybe give him actual NBA players for teammates and he would have.

Yeah, because other great point guards (Chris Paul, Derrick Rose, etc.) showed that they needed star teammates to thrive, too.
Um. Yeah.

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Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2015, 10:16:07 PM »

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Maybe give him actual NBA players for teammates and he would have.
I thought he was that special guy, a walking triple-double that makes everyone around him better. Don't tell me it was the other way round.

you mean thats all it would have taken.

Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2015, 10:16:35 PM »

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Is it really hard to surround him with good players? Let's not talk like Monta is a future HOF. Dirk's recent games weren't really outstanding either.


What really Rondo needed in this team is a good shooter and a great rim protector, not necessary star players. Paul and Rose both have those in their teams.

Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2015, 10:17:01 PM »

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If he played like that every night we wouldn't have.
But we would have had arguments about whether he was worth a max contract.

Maybe give him actual NBA players for teammates and he would have.

Yeah, because other great point guards (Chris Paul, Derrick Rose, etc.) showed that they needed star teammates to thrive, too.
Um. Yeah.

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Did he lead a team to a ring or something that year? Did he lead the league in assists and his position at rebs?

No, he just almost single-handedly carried them into the Western semi-finals with not much help. You know, the stuff that superstar players do.
OMG. Wow. Almost. Almost carried them to the semi finals. Wow. And with not much help. Wow. Well maybe we should have traded Rondo and all those picks for him so he could almost lead this team to the east semi finals.


Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2015, 10:18:07 PM »

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If Rondo were in the Celtics trainers room he would be showing you Marcus Smart icing his butt.

Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2015, 10:18:07 PM »

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If he played like that every night we wouldn't have.
But we would have had arguments about whether he was worth a max contract.

Maybe give him actual NBA players for teammates and he would have.

Or if he wasn't shopped for the last year or two, after his GM told the media that he will build around him.

What? If anything this just shows how much of a diva Rondo is. YOU HAVE THE BEST JOB A PERSON CAN ASK FOR, AND YOU'RE A LITTLE WORRIED THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO GO MAKE 12 MILLION DOLLARS IN A DIFFERENT CITY?! Good Lord, I have sympathy for him! lol

Oh can it will you? Players who get traded move their families too who settled in their current city. There are players who are loyal to the team and dont want to leave. It's not as simple as just "moving teams".

Pierce didnt want to leave Boston, is it impossible to say that Rondo had the same feeling as well?

It's been pretty well established that Rondo wasn't resigning, so I don't understand how people keep thinking he wants to stay. Do you think Ainge would've traded him for that poop platter if he  thought he could resign him?
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Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2015, 10:18:46 PM »

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If he played like that every night we wouldn't have.
But we would have had arguments about whether he was worth a max contract.

Maybe give him actual NBA players for teammates and he would have.

Yeah, because other great point guards (Chris Paul, Derrick Rose, etc.) showed that they needed star teammates to thrive, too.
Um. Yeah.

2008 Chris Paul
Did he lead a team to a ring or something that year? Did he lead the league in assists and his position at rebs?

No, he just almost single-handedly carried them into the Western semi-finals with not much help. You know, the stuff that superstar players do.

Hawks are fringe playoff contenders and they made it in the 2nd round the past few times. But that doesn't say much.

Dwill took his team further than CP3 ever had. Is Dwill better than Paul?

Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2015, 10:19:48 PM »

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Is it really hard to surround him with good players? Let's not talk like Monta is a future HOF. Dirk's recent games weren't really outstanding either.


What really Rondo needed in this team is a good shooter and a great rim protector, not necessary star players. Paul and Rose both have those in their teams.

Who said we were talking about right now? Of course they have good players now. I was talking about 2008/2009 Paul and Rose when they both had teams that weren't very talented.
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Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2015, 10:20:19 PM »

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'you really shouldn't have traded me'.
Is that what he showed us?  I thought he showed us that he needs superstars around him to be effective.  Either that or he showed us that he intentionally dogged it for two seasons.  Either that or he showed us the last 9 years of his career where he shot 25% from three were a lie... he could just instantly transform himself into a 38% three point shooter at any time, but was choosing not to do it, just cuz neener neener.    Either that or he was showing us that Ainge was right to move him... he's a bipolar spiteful player who becomes disengaged when things aren't going his way... it lends credence to the idea that he mailed in practices and was a poor leader. 

Thing is, even if you think Rondo is a superstah, tonight should just give you more reason to support that trade.   Rondo clearly wasn't staying here.  He clearly wasn't happy here (otherwise he would have played like that for us).   He would have left us empty handed.   Better to get something than nothing.

What's your rebuttal?  That he would have stayed?  That he loved Boston?  Great... deal still had to be done.  If he loves Boston so much, he can sign with us this offseason.  Oh, wait... you mean to say he will only sign with a team that holds his bird rights, because it gives him the most money?  Oh... so there's no budging from his "max money" requirement?  Well in that case, Boston was very clearly not willing to pay a player of his caliber max money... so the deal still made sense.

I still have doubts the Rondo experiment will work that well in Dallas.  I don't see a lot of evidence supporting they are better.  A win against the Celtics doesn't prove anything... they beat us earlier this year and beat us in both games last year.  They would have beat us either with or without Rondo.   But hey, if the Rondo experiment DOES work in Dallas, good for them.  He's the 4th or 5th best player there.  When he was the 4th best player in Boston, we won a title.    I wasn't seeing the Celtics landing 3 better players than Rondo anytime soon.  He had to go.

Tell ya what... if Rondo continues to shoot like this for the rest of the season (suddenly going from 25% three point shooter to 40% world beater in Dallas), I'll be first in line to scream "SIGN RONDO!" this summer.    I don't see how our position will be any different.  Thanks to the move, we'll have a few addition assets to help lure in talent to surround Rondo with.   

If you genuinely believe Rondo would have signed here this summer, I don't see why you wouldn't believe he'll sign here this summer now.   Dirk isn't getting any younger.  We have the cap space.  We have the picks and talent.   We can't offer him a max MAX deal using bird rights, but we can offer him a deal making like 17 mil a year. 

The fans still clearly love him.  If he loves Boston as much as you all want to believe, I don't see what the problem is... he'll come back, right?

Trade still made sense.  Had to do it.  We weren't winning a title this year.   Let's bottom out, get a top pick, collect some more assets, bring Rondo back this summer and regroup.

Trade made no sense. None of the acquired players look like they will be of any value. The pick is looking like it will be in the high 20's. The only thing we got that's great is the big TPE, which the jury is still out.

And there's a difference. He could have signed this summer if Ainge believed that he could be a part of a winning team moving forward. Since Ainge traded him, for peanuts I may add, do you honestly think that Rajon would be ectastic having him as a GM again, knowing full well that at anytime he can be traded, again. He may love Boston, but I firmly believe that he has no love for Danny Ainge, he will never sign here. He would have if we probably committed to him.
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Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #39 on: January 02, 2015, 10:20:31 PM »

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If he played like that every night we wouldn't have.
But we would have had arguments about whether he was worth a max contract.

Maybe give him actual NBA players for teammates and he would have.

Yeah, because other great point guards (Chris Paul, Derrick Rose, etc.) showed that they needed star teammates to thrive, too.
Um. Yeah.

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Did he lead a team to a ring or something that year? Did he lead the league in assists and his position at rebs?

No, he just almost single-handedly carried them into the Western semi-finals with not much help. You know, the stuff that superstar players do.

Single handedly?  David West and Tyson Chandler have something to say about that.
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Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #40 on: January 02, 2015, 10:21:02 PM »

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Playoff rondo was in the td garden tonight.

that wasnt playoff Rondo.

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Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #41 on: January 02, 2015, 10:21:18 PM »

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If he played like that every night we wouldn't have.
But we would have had arguments about whether he was worth a max contract.

Maybe give him actual NBA players for teammates and he would have.

Yeah, because other great point guards (Chris Paul, Derrick Rose, etc.) showed that they needed star teammates to thrive, too.
Um. Yeah.

2008 Chris Paul
Did he lead a team to a ring or something that year? Did he lead the league in assists and his position at rebs?

No, he just almost single-handedly carried them into the Western semi-finals with not much help. You know, the stuff that superstar players do.
OMG. Wow. Almost. Almost carried them to the semi finals. Wow. And with not much help. Wow. Well maybe we should have traded Rondo and all those picks for him so he could almost lead this team to the east semi finals.

Show me one thing Rondo has done (besides take defense off for two years) without a future Hall of Famer next to him. Go on, I'll wait.
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Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #42 on: January 02, 2015, 10:21:44 PM »

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If he played like that every night we wouldn't have.
But we would have had arguments about whether he was worth a max contract.

Maybe give him actual NBA players for teammates and he would have.

Or if he wasn't shopped for the last year or two, after his GM told the media that he will build around him.

What? If anything this just shows how much of a diva Rondo is. YOU HAVE THE BEST JOB A PERSON CAN ASK FOR, AND YOU'RE A LITTLE WORRIED THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO GO MAKE 12 MILLION DOLLARS IN A DIFFERENT CITY?! Good Lord, I have sympathy for him! lol

Oh can it will you? Players who get traded move their families too who settled in their current city. There are players who are loyal to the team and dont want to leave. It's not as simple as just "moving teams".

Pierce didnt want to leave Boston, is it impossible to say that Rondo had the same feeling as well?

It's been pretty well established that Rondo wasn't resigning, so I don't understand how people keep thinking he wants to stay. Do you think Ainge would've traded him for that poop platter if he  thought he could resign him?
Doc said he didn't know what he wanted to do. He's not a hold out for every penny kind of guy at all. It doesn't matter. You don't trade a great player for crud like that.

Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #43 on: January 02, 2015, 10:21:57 PM »

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Is it really hard to surround him with good players? Let's not talk like Monta is a future HOF. Dirk's recent games weren't really outstanding either.


What really Rondo needed in this team is a good shooter and a great rim protector, not necessary star players. Paul and Rose both have those in their teams.

We could have had Asik last year. All we would need is a good shooter and we would be competitive. We would still have some assets to get one too,
 
But instead, the plan looks like to just really tank.
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Re: Rajon Rondo shows Boston
« Reply #44 on: January 02, 2015, 10:22:21 PM »

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If he played like that every night we wouldn't have.
But we would have had arguments about whether he was worth a max contract.

Maybe give him actual NBA players for teammates and he would have.

Yeah, because other great point guards (Chris Paul, Derrick Rose, etc.) showed that they needed star teammates to thrive, too.
Um. Yeah.

2008 Chris Paul
Did he lead a team to a ring or something that year? Did he lead the league in assists and his position at rebs?

No, he just almost single-handedly carried them into the Western semi-finals with not much help. You know, the stuff that superstar players do.

Single handedly?  David West and Tyson Chandler have something to say about that.

Forgot about West, but Chandler wasn't "prime Chandler" yet.
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