now we see the fruits of labor of ainge. ...! fire ainge! im tired of watching this celtics team. wrap this season up!
and ainge is hoping to land a superstar free agent??? - who will come to boston if you do not value a player? kg gets traded, pierce traded and rondo traded! DANNY "Trader" Ainge should consider that he is living because of the fans! who are going to watch and pay tickets to watch this celtics team??
Pj, you're new so I will not be too hard on you.
NBA trades aren't necessarily about who gets better in the short-term. Sometimes, you make moves with a long-term vision in mind. It's hard to understand for some people. You don't grade trades in the present unless you have enough perspective to project out the long-term repercussions of the deal.
When Ainge traded KG and Pierce (both capable players who lead us to the playoffs in their final year... then proceeded to lead Brooklyn to the playoffs after we traded them) for nothing but draft picks, it was clearly a short-term win for Brooklyn. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone with any NBA sense who would call that a 'bad" deal for Boston, though. We got 5 first round picks out of it. It was an insane haul for two veteran rentals.
A lot of people are looking at this Rondo trade with amateur goggles on. "Dallas good... we bad... we not good... trade bad".
As I said in the other thread...
Mavs were 19-8 before the trade with the highest scoring/most efficient offense in the league
Boston was 9-14 before the trade.
It shouldn't be a major shocker that the mavs are 5-2 since the trade...
It shouldn't be a major shocker that Boston is 2-5 since the trade.
I'm someone who believes the trade didn't make much of a difference for either team. If anything, we will be slightly better short-term and Dallas will be slightly worse. Boston's future got a tiny bit brighter by adding a late protected 1st, some tradeable role players and a TPE we might use. When you consider Rondo was leaving us empty handed at season's end and no other team was willing to give up anything of value for Rondo, that was defensible move that made plenty of sense. The only criticism you can make is that Ainge maybe should have traded Rondo sooner.
All that said, it would have been foolish to expect a Boston win tonight based on the deal. We were a worse team and we are still a worse team. Why would that trade narrow the gap that much? We lost our only game against Dallas this year. We lost both our games against Dallas last year. In what world does a Dallas win tonight prove the stance that Boston blew that trade? It doesn't... at all.
When fans like myself suggest Dallas "didn't get much better", it doesn't mean we expect them to stink. When I say Boston didn't get much worse, it doesn't mean they should be able to beat playoff teams now. Think about it.