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Re: Trade potential? Cousins Not Happy With The Kings
« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2014, 01:17:56 AM »

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Anyone besides me that would rather keep the nets picks, and trade our own?  On paper a celtics 2016 and 2018 might look nice, but hopefully we'd put a playoff contender around DMC that would make the picks less of a sacrifice.  Plus, trading our own picks would take away the perverse incentive of being in a position to actually root for your own team to lose (instead we can just do that to Brooklyn).

Re: Trade potential? Cousins Not Happy With The Kings
« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2014, 01:37:07 AM »

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And we just traded rondo  :'(  :'(  :'(

Re: Trade potential? Cousins Not Happy With The Kings
« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2014, 08:14:58 AM »

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Cousins is 24 years old, is signed to a long-term contract, and is having the second most statistically dominant season by a big man in the last decade.

I don't think that even teams as poorly managed as Sacramento would trade him.
He would have to demand a trade.

Even if he did, what's his leverage?  He can't leave until the 2019 season.
He can be a problem and cause other issues.
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Re: Trade potential? Cousins Not Happy With The Kings
« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2014, 08:28:56 AM »

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Cousins is 24 years old, is signed to a long-term contract, and is having the second most statistically dominant season by a big man in the last decade.

I don't think that even teams as poorly managed as Sacramento would trade him.
He would have to demand a trade.

Even if he did, what's his leverage?  He can't leave until the 2019 season.
He can be a problem and cause other issues.
I think he would have to pout and play poorly for a very long time.  Like more than the rest of this season.  That's not going to happen after he's made so much progress.

Re: Trade potential? Cousins Not Happy With The Kings
« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2014, 09:08:34 AM »

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It will take alot to get him and I doubt he is moved. If anything I expect it would happen in the offseason around draft time. With that being said the only two team I can see putting together a package that wont insult the Kings would be the Cs and the Suns.

Suns could offer

Bledsoe, Len, Marcus Morris, their 2015 1st, min protected 1st suns 1st

Celtics

Sully, Cs 2015, Clippers 2015, Nets 2016
Mavs
Wiz
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Re: Trade potential? Cousins Not Happy With The Kings
« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2014, 09:49:03 AM »

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It will take alot to get him and I doubt he is moved. If anything I expect it would happen in the offseason around draft time. With that being said the only two team I can see putting together a package that wont insult the Kings would be the Cs and the Suns.

Suns could offer

Bledsoe, Len, Marcus Morris, their 2015 1st, min protected 1st suns 1st

Celtics

Sully, Cs 2015, Clippers 2015, Nets 2016
I doubt the Kings move him but I think either of those deals would get a conversation going.  Not sure if the PHX gets them anywhere without either including better first rounders than theirs or at least another good player.

C's offer would probably have to include another good player and probably would have to make the 2016 pick the better of the C's/Nets picks to get them to bite.  probably have to be Zeller and Sully.

Re: Trade potential? Cousins Not Happy With The Kings
« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2014, 09:54:48 AM »

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Cousins is 24 years old, is signed to a long-term contract, and is having the second most statistically dominant season by a big man in the last decade.

I don't think that even teams as poorly managed as Sacramento would trade him.
He would have to demand a trade.

Even if he did, what's his leverage?  He can't leave until the 2019 season.
He can be a problem and cause other issues.
I think he would have to pout and play poorly for a very long time.  Like more than the rest of this season.  That's not going to happen after he's made so much progress.
He could do just the minimum to not get suspended, but nothing more.  He could pout, he could be a disruption, etc.  Not the best leverage in the world, but still leverage.  He could also go to the extreme and just not show up at all and threaten to retire.
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Re: Trade potential? Cousins Not Happy With The Kings
« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2014, 10:02:57 AM »

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Cousins is 24 years old, is signed to a long-term contract, and is having the second most statistically dominant season by a big man in the last decade.

I don't think that even teams as poorly managed as Sacramento would trade him.
He would have to demand a trade.

Even if he did, what's his leverage?  He can't leave until the 2019 season.
He can be a problem and cause other issues.
I think he would have to pout and play poorly for a very long time.  Like more than the rest of this season.  That's not going to happen after he's made so much progress.
He could do just the minimum to not get suspended, but nothing more.  He could pout, he could be a disruption, etc.  Not the best leverage in the world, but still leverage.  He could also go to the extreme and just not show up at all and threaten to retire.

Threatening to retire seems like a pretty empty threat, doesn't it?

He's unfortunately going to have to probably put in another two seasons there, and then the team might start to take his threats of leaving more seriously.


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Re: Trade potential? Cousins Not Happy With The Kings
« Reply #38 on: December 31, 2014, 10:36:46 AM »

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Cousins is 24 years old, is signed to a long-term contract, and is having the second most statistically dominant season by a big man in the last decade.

I don't think that even teams as poorly managed as Sacramento would trade him.
He would have to demand a trade.

Even if he did, what's his leverage?  He can't leave until the 2019 season.
He can be a problem and cause other issues.
I think he would have to pout and play poorly for a very long time.  Like more than the rest of this season.  That's not going to happen after he's made so much progress.
He could do just the minimum to not get suspended, but nothing more.  He could pout, he could be a disruption, etc.  Not the best leverage in the world, but still leverage.  He could also go to the extreme and just not show up at all and threaten to retire.

Threatening to retire seems like a pretty empty threat, doesn't it?

He's unfortunately going to have to probably put in another two seasons there, and then the team might start to take his threats of leaving more seriously.
He could just not show up if he really wanted out.
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Re: Trade potential? Cousins Not Happy With The Kings
« Reply #39 on: December 31, 2014, 11:16:20 AM »

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DMC just signed a long term contract, why would they trade him?

The Kings would be stupid to trade him as of right now. There's a better chance that Sacramento can make this work with Cousins than trade him.

Memphis did it with Gay and ATL with Joe Johnson. Different situations but those teams, like the Kings, already have other key players committed there and may feel that contract was a mistake. However, I think Cousins at this time is more valuable than either of those 2 when they signed their deals. Just a comparison for thought though
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Re: Trade potential? Cousins Not Happy With The Kings
« Reply #40 on: December 31, 2014, 11:44:18 AM »

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This season, Cousins is averaging 25 ppg, 12 rpg, 3 apg, 1 steal and 1.5 blocks in 32.5 (!!!) minutes per game. He's 24. He's so far beyond untradeable that it's not even funny.
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« Reply #41 on: December 31, 2014, 11:45:53 AM »

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Dat dare percentages too. 50% from the field and 80% from the line. The guy is a superstar

Re: Trade potential? Cousins Not Happy With The Kings
« Reply #42 on: December 31, 2014, 12:00:25 PM »

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Joking (Joking?) aside, I would give anyone or anything to get Demarcus Cousins. Literally everyone on our team is an "asset," and thus expendable, at this point when compared to Cousins. I would even consider giving up all of the Nets' picks seeing that we are hoping to maybe be in a position to draft someone that ends up like Cousins.

The #1 pick in 2015 (assume Celtics get lucky in the lottery), Smart, Young, Olynyk, and both Nets picks?

Yes. Cousins is a bona fide superstar who is young (24), plays center, and is locked up long-term. He does it all (his stat line is insane). You build around Demarcus Cousins. You don't build around Olynyk, Smart, or anyone else on our current team. And like I said, we are hoping that 1) The Nets picks are high and 2) That we have a chance to draft someone that comes close to what Cousins is doing now. I could live with Cousins-Davis battles in the Finals every year. 

The only circumstance I would consider not giving up the kitchen sink is if Towns/Okafor/anyone else completely dominates college basketball (a la Anthony Davis) and shows the ability to be a superstar big man. Then, I would draft them and continue building up with what we have.

Re: Trade potential? Cousins Not Happy With The Kings
« Reply #43 on: December 31, 2014, 12:12:01 PM »

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Rondo going to Mavs ...screwed up several teams rebuilding hopes.

I suspect they promised to bring in a Rondo calibre guard .

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Re: Trade potential? Cousins Not Happy With The Kings
« Reply #44 on: December 31, 2014, 12:44:51 PM »

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Cousins is 24 years old, is signed to a long-term contract, and is having the second most statistically dominant season by a big man in the last decade.

I don't think that even teams as poorly managed as Sacramento would trade him.

Exactly. it's not happening....