David Aldridge: Cs poised to be major player in Draft/FA/trade

[gpap]

 The question becomes does Kevin Durant become this upcoming summers Kevin love.

I am sure Ainge is going to try to get him.

But, chances are slim to none.

If Durant leaves, I've heard an awful lot about him going to play in DC, which is where he is from.

Maybe we can play the hometown angle in 7-8 years when Nerlens Noel, Michael Carter-Williams, and Noah Vonleh are unrestricted free agents.

Well, in 7-8 years I am going to be in my forties and won't give a rat's ass about anything by then

[CFAN38]

I think this off-season DA trys to get involved with Leonard, Butler or Jordan if there current teams aren't willing to pay them max money. This may involve using picks in a S&T arrangement. I can't see either of those guy moving but DA will at least have to try.

[manl_lui]

 The question becomes does Kevin Durant become this upcoming summers Kevin love.

I am sure Ainge is going to try to get him.

But, chances are slim to none.

If Durant leaves, I've heard an awful lot about him going to play in DC, which is where he is from.

Maybe we can play the hometown angle in 7-8 years when Nerlens Noel, Michael Carter-Williams, and Noah Vonleh are unrestricted free agents.

Don't forget Shabazz Napier

[chambers]

Ainge will attempt to go for Marc Gasol and Kevin Durant.
He'll also likely go after Jimmy Butler so in order it will go:

2015:
Gasol
Butler

2016:
Durant

doubt we get any of them though.

[Timdawgg]

Man, I would love to Add Gasol and Butler to this group.

[BDeCosta26]

Yeah after last summer, I am not getting my hopes up for "fireworks."

I have no doubt Ainge will try to do something (I hope.)

I just hope he doesn't give up after trying to acquire the top guy on his list.

This summer (and obviously I have no clue what the front office discusses or tried) it seemed to me like it was either get Kevin Love or bust.

I'd like to hope next summer Ainge has a plan A, B, C, and D to helping the team acquire talent.

It looked like we just went from trying to get Kevin Love to our two best offseason acquistions being Tyler Zeller and Marcus Thornton.

Zeller and Thornton weren't targets. Danny pulled them out of thin air. Id be willing to bet that it was Kevin Love or bust. None of the top tier free agents were realistic options for us, and signing any good but not great 2nd tier free agents just to get swept in the 1st round does us no favors . I understand the staying competitive instead of tanking argument, but that's only if the +25 players on your roster are had at good prices or picked up off the scrap heap and outperform expectations. You don't outbid everyone else just to get someone like Luol Deng. I'm glad Danny stayed flexible and didn't go that route. I hate tanking, but that idea is equally stupid. We tried that in the mid 90s

[Who]

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/features/david_aldridge/12/22/morning-tip-rajon-rondo-to-dallas-carmelo-anthony-possible-trade-destinations-qa-wtih-isaiah-thomas/index.html

Boston tried to make a mega-deal last summer, but couldn't find any takers. It is unlikely Ainge will be a bystander again next summer. The Celtics are poised to be a major player in all aspects of player acquisition -- Draft, trades, free agency -- going forward.

After all that losing in Boston, it's time.

I think there is a better chance of being a bystander next summer than making a big move.

Guys like Kevin Love were interested in Boston last summer because Rondo was here. Because they wouldn't have to do all the heavy lifting by themselves. There was a star here. And there was some young talent beyond the star. Some cap space. Trade assets. A foundation.

That doesn't exist anymore. No star wants to leave a bad situation on his current team just to come to another bad situation on a different team (Boston in this case).

Ainge has to make some other moves first to make Boston attractive again to top players. Then they have a chance at making a blockbuster move.

Edit: Personally, I think the best way to do that -- now that Rondo is gone -- is through the draft. To stay bad for a few years and add top tier talent via the draft. Then as that talent develops Boston will become a very attractive place for players once again.

I don't think trying for a short-fix is the right move. Not anymore. Not after Rondo. I think it needs to move onto a long term rebuilding plan via draft.

[TheFlex]

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/features/david_aldridge/12/22/morning-tip-rajon-rondo-to-dallas-carmelo-anthony-possible-trade-destinations-qa-wtih-isaiah-thomas/index.html

Boston tried to make a mega-deal last summer, but couldn't find any takers. It is unlikely Ainge will be a bystander again next summer. The Celtics are poised to be a major player in all aspects of player acquisition -- Draft, trades, free agency -- going forward.

After all that losing in Boston, it's time.

I think there is a better chance of being a bystander next summer than making a big move.

Guys like Kevin Love were interested in Boston last summer because Rondo was here. Because they wouldn't have to do all the heavy lifting by themselves. There was a star here. And there was some young talent beyond the star. Some cap space. Trade assets. A foundation.

That doesn't exist anymore. No star wants to leave a bad situation on his current team just to come to another bad situation on a different team (Boston in this case).

Ainge has to make some other moves first to make Boston attractive again to top players. Then they have a chance at making a blockbuster move.

Edit: Personally, I think the best way to do that -- now that Rondo is gone -- is through the draft. To stay bad for a few years and add top tier talent via the draft. Then as that talent develops Boston will become a very attractive place for players once again.

I don't think trying for a short-fix is the right move. Not anymore. Not after Rondo. I think it needs to move onto a long term rebuilding plan via draft.

I was going to say pretty much exactly what you said in your edit. Though I think if we added another premier prospect this summer, a young player like Jimmy Butler could be intrigued with us right away.

[hpantazo]

I agree. If we have all of these draft picks, and they are as valuable as we say they are, then what's wrong with using them all ourselves? There also do not appear to be any franchise type players on the horizon that will be available to use via trade or free agency. I don't see Durant or Gasol coming here. Sure a number of those will be busts, but the sheer number of picks we have greatly increases our chances that one or two of them will be stars or superstars. Ainge is a great evaluator of talent, I would be very interested in seeing what he could do if he uses most of those draft selections himself to add to Olynyk, Smart, and Sullinger.

[chambers]

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/features/david_aldridge/12/22/morning-tip-rajon-rondo-to-dallas-carmelo-anthony-possible-trade-destinations-qa-wtih-isaiah-thomas/index.html

Boston tried to make a mega-deal last summer, but couldn't find any takers. It is unlikely Ainge will be a bystander again next summer. The Celtics are poised to be a major player in all aspects of player acquisition -- Draft, trades, free agency -- going forward.

After all that losing in Boston, it's time.

I think there is a better chance of being a bystander next summer than making a big move.

Guys like Kevin Love were interested in Boston last summer because Rondo was here. Because they wouldn't have to do all the heavy lifting by themselves. There was a star here. And there was some young talent beyond the star. Some cap space. Trade assets. A foundation.

That doesn't exist anymore. No star wants to leave a bad situation on his current team just to come to another bad situation on a different team (Boston in this case).

Ainge has to make some other moves first to make Boston attractive again to top players. Then they have a chance at making a blockbuster move.

Edit: Personally, I think the best way to do that -- now that Rondo is gone -- is through the draft. To stay bad for a few years and add top tier talent via the draft. Then as that talent develops Boston will become a very attractive place for players once again.

I don't think trying for a short-fix is the right move. Not anymore. Not after Rondo. I think it needs to move onto a long term rebuilding plan via draft.

I agree with you, I also think that Ainge will pitch the idea to potential stars that he'll bring them in as part of a duo- and he'll float the 2008 team with Ray and KG as the blueprint.

[Surferdad]

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/features/david_aldridge/12/22/morning-tip-rajon-rondo-to-dallas-carmelo-anthony-possible-trade-destinations-qa-wtih-isaiah-thomas/index.html

Boston tried to make a mega-deal last summer, but couldn't find any takers. It is unlikely Ainge will be a bystander again next summer. The Celtics are poised to be a major player in all aspects of player acquisition -- Draft, trades, free agency -- going forward.

After all that losing in Boston, it's time.

I think there is a better chance of being a bystander next summer than making a big move.

Guys like Kevin Love were interested in Boston last summer because Rondo was here. Because they wouldn't have to do all the heavy lifting by themselves. There was a star here. And there was some young talent beyond the star. Some cap space. Trade assets. A foundation.

That doesn't exist anymore. No star wants to leave a bad situation on his current team just to come to another bad situation on a different team (Boston in this case).

Ainge has to make some other moves first to make Boston attractive again to top players. Then they have a chance at making a blockbuster move.

Edit: Personally, I think the best way to do that -- now that Rondo is gone -- is through the draft. To stay bad for a few years and add top tier talent via the draft. Then as that talent develops Boston will become a very attractive place for players once again.

I don't think trying for a short-fix is the right move. Not anymore. Not after Rondo. I think it needs to move onto a long term rebuilding plan via draft.

I agree with you, I also think that Ainge will pitch the idea to potential stars that he'll bring them in as part of a duo- and he'll float the 2008 team with Ray and KG as the blueprint.

I don't think so. Back in 2007 the Celts already had an all-star on the roster (Pierce). Now that Rondo is gone, this re-build will be entirely different.  It will be more "organic" by developing young talent, smart draft picks and smaller deals.

[SHAQATTACK]

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/features/david_aldridge/12/22/morning-tip-rajon-rondo-to-dallas-carmelo-anthony-possible-trade-destinations-qa-wtih-isaiah-thomas/index.html

Boston tried to make a mega-deal last summer, but couldn't find any takers. It is unlikely Ainge will be a bystander again next summer. The Celtics are poised to be a major player in all aspects of player acquisition -- Draft, trades, free agency -- going forward.

After all that losing in Boston, it's time.

I think there is a better chance of being a bystander next summer than making a big move.

Guys like Kevin Love were interested in Boston last summer because Rondo was here. Because they wouldn't have to do all the heavy lifting by themselves. There was a star here. And there was some young talent beyond the star. Some cap space. Trade assets. A foundation.

That doesn't exist anymore. No star wants to leave a bad situation on his current team just to come to another bad situation on a different team (Boston in this case).

Ainge has to make some other moves first to make Boston attractive again to top players. Then they have a chance at making a blockbuster move.

Edit: Personally, I think the best way to do that -- now that Rondo is gone -- is through the draft. To stay bad for a few years and add top tier talent via the draft. Then as that talent develops Boston will become a very attractive place for players once again.

I don't think trying for a short-fix is the right move. Not anymore. Not after Rondo. I think it needs to move onto a long term rebuilding plan via draft.

I agree with you, I also think that Ainge will pitch the idea to potential stars that he'll bring them in as part of a duo- and he'll float the 2008 team with Ray and KG as the blueprint.

I don't think so. Back in 2007 the Celts already had an all-star on the roster (Pierce). Now that Rondo is gone, this re-build will be entirely different.  It will be more "organic" by developing young talent, smart draft picks and smaller deals.

Yes ...improbably will be .....Doc was totally different coach .....this guy likes to develop his own style and start with young players .....it's what he is accustomed to.  Stevens sin' use to baby sitting 30 yr old million aires .   He is more comfortable with the kids and putting something together l.

[the coreys]

Honestly our best bet is to do our rebuild the Warriors way, blazers and before second half of last season pacers mold.

The celts aren't gonna be the worse team over the next 3 years but they gotta be in the top 12 worse or so and hit on on 3 picks.

There's no one to trade for or sign as of this moment that's worth it. Ainge better have some [dang] good scouting and a plan for what kind of team this is gonna become.

[fairweatherfan]

We're going to be making major moves at some point, simply because we have too many picks and young players to possibly fit them all on one roster.  We likely will have something like 8 picks in 2016; we aren't going to be using all of them.

The only real questions are when we move and what those players/picks will get us.  But yeah, we're cashing in this stockpile sooner or later.  This offseason seems like the logical time to start.

[pokeKingCurtis]

We're going to be making major moves at some point, simply because we have too many picks and young players to possibly fit them all on one roster.  We likely will have something like 8 picks in 2016; we aren't going to be using all of them.

Thing is, other teams know this as well.

But, stashing picks overseas is an option.

And it's also inevitable for some teams to want first rounders at some point. So we've basically robbed teams of first rounders, hogged first rounders, and are now cornering the market.