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Re: Why Rondo was traded
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2014, 03:53:44 PM »

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Quite.

Although, really, "Why Rondo was traded" is answered the same way almost every other roster move made by every other team is answered: Because the ownership and management thought it was the best decision to win a ring as soon as possible.
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Re: Why Rondo was traded
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2014, 04:07:29 PM »

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Perkins has been pretty direct in saying Rondo wanted out. That seems significant to me.

Yup - this is from his best friend! Still waiting for all the apologies for Jackie Mac from the Rondo apologists??  I mean, she pretty much nailed it back in August, it's just that nobody wanted to hear it...

Exactly.

First off, who the heck ever has apologized to any journalist on any story on this website. We have at various times complained about steven a smith, vecsey, thorpe, woj, jackie, felger and too many others to name. Occasionally some of them have made predictions that came right. Do you think Jackie is sitting on her computer like, man I really hope they apologize for not believing me on celtics blog. I was right!

Second, what is the point of that? Do we need all the people on here to apologize for their false rondo proposals that were better offers?

I don't know why people think Jackie is the greatest thing ever, but asking posters to apologize for not believing her rondo rumor is absurd.
The problem is people off their meds. They rant like they know it all calling reporters names and then they are silent when the report they didn't like turns out correct. There is no talking to these people when they are ranting. They insist so strongly about things they don't know. Since there is no talking to them as they rant, all we are left with is calling them out when we find out the real deal.

The problem isn't these people being wrong. The problem is how insistent they are and their rage.

On the other hand, Perk didn't say anything about August. We don't actually have a timeline on Rondo's feelings. That still requires speculation.

I think people get justifiably annoyed with the way some of their journalists pass off their "sources" as facts so frequently, especially on ESPN. They have one reporter that says sources tell them this player wants out or is unhappy. Then ESPN will start citing their own sources to create a world of references based entirely off one crumb of a rumor that may be true. For example shefter say demarco murray may play. Then their ticker and affiliates start citing shefter. It is a game of shells! This could get super off topic, but this may be a contributing factor in a net sports network like fox sports emerging into the market share.
I agree that 'sources' are often just people with connections but with no actual real knowledge of issues they are commenting on. For this reason, it is good to know the track records of individual reporters to have a feel for their level of responsibility. Also, we should probably have different expectations for journalists and former athletes.

In general, in the age of the internet, cable news, and bloggers, we no longer fact check and we rarely track down primary sources. People just float a story and everyone latches on, regardless of real events. This even shapes elections. I don't see insisting on personal speculation as a useful response to this.

It is also not surprising to see sport networks do this if more political networks like FNC have succeeded doing this same irresponsible behavior on issues that actually matter.

Re: Why Rondo was traded
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2014, 04:11:35 PM »

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Perkins has been pretty direct in saying Rondo wanted out. That seems significant to me.

Yup - this is from his best friend! Still waiting for all the apologies for Jackie Mac from the Rondo apologists??  I mean, she pretty much nailed it back in August, it's just that nobody wanted to hear it...

Exactly.

First off, who the heck ever has apologized to any journalist on any story on this website. We have at various times complained about steven a smith, vecsey, thorpe, woj, jackie, felger and too many others to name. Occasionally some of them have made predictions that came right. Do you think Jackie is sitting on her computer like, man I really hope they apologize for not believing me on celtics blog. I was right!

Second, what is the point of that? Do we need all the people on here to apologize for their false rondo proposals that were better offers?

I don't know why people think Jackie is the greatest thing ever, but asking posters to apologize for not believing her rondo rumor is absurd.

Several posters on this board attacked her and her credibility simply because it was what they didn't want to hear....she nailed the Rondo thing several months ago.  I just think it's funny how everyone crushed her at the time and it's crickets since last Thursday.  I just want to point out that she was right and she deserves credit for it...

  She probably wasn't right. The fact that Rondo was eventually traded doesn't mean the team was "done with him" months earlier. She was also talking about how Doc wanted to have nothing to do with Rondo (iirc), which clearly wasn't true at all.

Re: Why Rondo was traded
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2014, 04:19:44 PM »

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Perkins has been pretty direct in saying Rondo wanted out. That seems significant to me.

Yup - this is from his best friend! Still waiting for all the apologies for Jackie Mac from the Rondo apologists??  I mean, she pretty much nailed it back in August, it's just that nobody wanted to hear it...

Exactly.

First off, who the heck ever has apologized to any journalist on any story on this website. We have at various times complained about steven a smith, vecsey, thorpe, woj, jackie, felger and too many others to name. Occasionally some of them have made predictions that came right. Do you think Jackie is sitting on her computer like, man I really hope they apologize for not believing me on celtics blog. I was right!

Second, what is the point of that? Do we need all the people on here to apologize for their false rondo proposals that were better offers?

I don't know why people think Jackie is the greatest thing ever, but asking posters to apologize for not believing her rondo rumor is absurd.

Several posters on this board attacked her and her credibility simply because it was what they didn't want to hear....she nailed the Rondo thing several months ago.  I just think it's funny how everyone crushed her at the time and it's crickets since last Thursday.  I just want to point out that she was right and she deserves credit for it...

  She probably wasn't right. The fact that Rondo was eventually traded doesn't mean the team was "done with him" months earlier. She was also talking about how Doc wanted to have nothing to do with Rondo (iirc), which clearly wasn't true at all.
Is that "clearly" not true? Still seems plausible to me.

Re: Why Rondo was traded
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2014, 04:29:45 PM »

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Perkins has been pretty direct in saying Rondo wanted out. That seems significant to me.

Yup - this is from his best friend! Still waiting for all the apologies for Jackie Mac from the Rondo apologists??  I mean, she pretty much nailed it back in August, it's just that nobody wanted to hear it...

Exactly.

First off, who the heck ever has apologized to any journalist on any story on this website. We have at various times complained about steven a smith, vecsey, thorpe, woj, jackie, felger and too many others to name. Occasionally some of them have made predictions that came right. Do you think Jackie is sitting on her computer like, man I really hope they apologize for not believing me on celtics blog. I was right!

Second, what is the point of that? Do we need all the people on here to apologize for their false rondo proposals that were better offers?

I don't know why people think Jackie is the greatest thing ever, but asking posters to apologize for not believing her rondo rumor is absurd.

Several posters on this board attacked her and her credibility simply because it was what they didn't want to hear....she nailed the Rondo thing several months ago.  I just think it's funny how everyone crushed her at the time and it's crickets since last Thursday.  I just want to point out that she was right and she deserves credit for it...

  She probably wasn't right. The fact that Rondo was eventually traded doesn't mean the team was "done with him" months earlier. She was also talking about how Doc wanted to have nothing to do with Rondo (iirc), which clearly wasn't true at all.
Is that "clearly" not true? Still seems plausible to me.

  Doc and Rondo both talk fairly regularly about having a good relationship and how they talk to each other on a regular basis. I'm more inclined to believe that than reporter's claims of the opposite.

Re: Why Rondo was traded
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2014, 04:46:16 PM »

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Quite.

Although, really, "Why Rondo was traded" is answered the same way almost every other roster move made by every other team is answered: Because the ownership and management thought it was the best decision to win a ring as soon as possible.

And we're on to Smart.

Re: Why Rondo was traded
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2014, 04:48:10 PM »

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Quite.

Although, really, "Why Rondo was traded" is answered the same way almost every other roster move made by every other team is answered: Because the ownership and management thought it was the best decision to win a ring as soon as possible.

  I think that generally runs neck and neck with "to save the owner a few bucks".

Re: Why Rondo was traded
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2014, 04:52:50 PM »

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Perkins has been pretty direct in saying Rondo wanted out. That seems significant to me.

Yup - this is from his best friend! Still waiting for all the apologies for Jackie Mac from the Rondo apologists??  I mean, she pretty much nailed it back in August, it's just that nobody wanted to hear it...

Exactly.

First off, who the heck ever has apologized to any journalist on any story on this website. We have at various times complained about steven a smith, vecsey, thorpe, woj, jackie, felger and too many others to name. Occasionally some of them have made predictions that came right. Do you think Jackie is sitting on her computer like, man I really hope they apologize for not believing me on celtics blog. I was right!

Second, what is the point of that? Do we need all the people on here to apologize for their false rondo proposals that were better offers?

I don't know why people think Jackie is the greatest thing ever, but asking posters to apologize for not believing her rondo rumor is absurd.

Several posters on this board attacked her and her credibility simply because it was what they didn't want to hear....she nailed the Rondo thing several months ago.  I just think it's funny how everyone crushed her at the time and it's crickets since last Thursday.  I just want to point out that she was right and she deserves credit for it...

Why was it taken down within 24 hours if she wanted credit for it?  She didn't even bother to take the time and write an article (you know, actually reporting it), but she deserves credit for it?
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Re: Why Rondo was traded
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2014, 01:11:24 AM »

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You guys miss the point.  Perkins said, Rondo liked to leave, but he WOULD NEVER SAY IT.  Doc Rivers said Rondo was conflicted, he did not know what he wanted.  Rondo was a champion stuck on a lottery team and he was actually conflicted about leaving Boston.  He made zero complaint about his situation.  What more do you want from him? 

I am so amazed how heartless some fans can be. 
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