Welcome Brandan Wright - 6'10, 35.5 vertical leap, 7'5 wingspan

[fairweatherfan]

How do you know that he was going to bail?  Just like Pierce and KG, he WANTED TO STAY.

Of course he wanted to stay. He also wanted entirely too much money.

Which is a great justification to just accept a garbage deal instead of trying to find something better, right?

Of course it is...

Given how vocal you have been this evening, I am sure you must have some inside knowledge that Danny passed up some other super-awesome deal to take this one. Since the rest of us are mere mortals and therefore have no inside knowledge of this incredible missed opportunity, please enlighten us so that we may also share in your despair.

No i don't. But it's very easy to say that there's about 2 months before the trade deadline, he could have easily worked the phones and possibly got a better offer. If not, then it's not for lack of trying. And this deal would probably still be on the table in the next week, or two, or a month.

Getting this deal, on a December, is either panicking or just basically just giving Rondo away.

Trading Rondo by the end of the day tomorrow meant that we can re-trade the guys we acquired before the trading deadline, either alone or in a package. 

It was very deliberate that we did this now, Danny just never made a peep about it until the day got close.   Remember Houston unsuccessfully tried the same thing with Asik last year.

Well, great. We traded a guy who leads the league in assists today for a bench guy, so that we can flip that bench guy again come trade deadline.

BTW, what do you think we can get for the bench guy and the late first round pick? Will it land us a four time All Star and an league leader in assists, or someone close?

Hey, don't shoot the messenger, I didn't make the trade and I don't like it either.  I'm just saying it happened now for a very specific reason that made sense under the trading rules.

[Jonny CC]

How do you know that he was going to bail?  Just like Pierce and KG, he WANTED TO STAY.

Of course he wanted to stay. He also wanted entirely too much money.

Which is a great justification to just accept a garbage deal instead of trying to find something better, right?

Of course it is...

Now we disagree again.
Who said that didn't try to find something better?  If Ainge thinks he can flip one or more of these guys later, the deal had to get done now.  Everyone is assuming that Ainge had a bunch of great offers on the table and took a crappy deal instead.  If the overall plan is to trade Rondo, then why wait

Brother, he's got two months before the trading deadline... There's PLENTY of time to work a deal, a better deal. I would get this if this is the deadline, but we're at 30 games in.

Don't give me the "he didnt try hard". He tried, but not hard.

If he wanted to include any of the new players in another deal at the trade deadline, it had to be done NOW.  He didn't have 2 months for that.  He had a day or two.  You are assuming that something better would be available before the trade deadline.  Danny is betting that he can include one of these guys in another deal.  Plus he gets a first rd pick and a large trade exemption. 

[KeepRondo]

Dude seems to be a nice finisher around the rim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnt8ogbFvfQ

But can he hit a jump shot? Or does he even attempt to shoot them?

Also, maybe Ainge got permission to talk to the Wright and got some agreement that he would resign before the trade went down.

[ronaldo943]

BTW, what do you think we can get for the bench guy and the late first round pick? Will it land us a four time All Star and an league leader in assists, or someone close?

You forgot that we got a one time All Star in Jameer Nelson. 

/thread.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

How do you know that he was going to bail?  Just like Pierce and KG, he WANTED TO STAY.

Of course he wanted to stay. He also wanted entirely too much money.

Which is a great justification to just accept a garbage deal instead of trying to find something better, right?

Of course it is...

Now we disagree again.
Who said that didn't try to find something better?  If Ainge thinks he can flip one or more of these guys later, the deal had to get done now.  Everyone is assuming that Ainge had a bunch of great offers on the table and took a crappy deal instead.  If the overall plan is to trade Rondo, then why wait

Brother, he's got two months before the trading deadline... There's PLENTY of time to work a deal, a better deal. I would get this if this is the deadline, but we're at 30 games in.

Don't give me the "he didnt try hard". He tried, but not hard.

If he wanted to include any of the new players in another deal at the trade deadline, it had to be done NOW.  He didn't have 2 months for that.  He had a day or two.  You are assuming that something better would be available before the trade deadline.  Danny is betting that he can include one of these guys in another deal.  Plus he gets a first rd pick and a large trade exemption.

And you're assuming that he can flip the guys and that TPE that he got for something better. We're basically on the same boat.

[Nerf DPOY]

How do you know that he was going to bail?  Just like Pierce and KG, he WANTED TO STAY.

Of course he wanted to stay. He also wanted entirely too much money.

Which is a great justification to just accept a garbage deal instead of trying to find something better, right?

Of course it is...

Given how vocal you have been this evening, I am sure you must have some inside knowledge that Danny passed up some other super-awesome deal to take this one. Since the rest of us are mere mortals and therefore have no inside knowledge of this incredible missed opportunity, please enlighten us so that we may also share in your despair.

Wasn't it Red who once said that sometimes the best deals are the ones you don't make?  Ainge SUCKS.

"Ainge SUCKS".  Same message, different thread. Old news.   
You didn't like Zeller deal?  Or the Smart draft pick?  Or the Olynyk pick?  I think he's done a pretty good job overall.  He got the C's a championship and should have had at least 2 if it wasn't for some questionable officiating and bad luck. Gotta give him credit for that.  He made the C's relevant and I wouldn't be surprised if he does it again.

I think if there were a better deal to be had for Rondo, then Ainge would have made that deal. I've got faith in Danny. That said, I'm flabbergasted to find out what Rondo was worth in a trade. It's poignant, and it stings. I'd prefer we kept him or at least held out longer. That's of course said from an outsider's perspective.

We arguably got more to take on Thornton's deal, and he's not even a bad player.

[fairweatherfan]

How do you know that he was going to bail?  Just like Pierce and KG, he WANTED TO STAY.

Of course he wanted to stay. He also wanted entirely too much money.

Which is a great justification to just accept a garbage deal instead of trying to find something better, right?

Of course it is...

Given how vocal you have been this evening, I am sure you must have some inside knowledge that Danny passed up some other super-awesome deal to take this one. Since the rest of us are mere mortals and therefore have no inside knowledge of this incredible missed opportunity, please enlighten us so that we may also share in your despair.

Wasn't it Red who once said that sometimes the best deals are the ones you don't make?  Ainge SUCKS.

"Ainge SUCKS".  Same message, different thread. Old news.   
You didn't like Zeller deal?  Or the Smart draft pick?  Or the Olynyk pick?  I think he's done a pretty good job overall.  He got the C's a championship and should have had at least 2 if it wasn't for some questionable officiating and bad luck. Gotta give him credit for that.  He made the C's relevant and I wouldn't be surprised if he does it again.

I think if there were a better deal to be had for Rondo, then Ainge would have made that deal. I've got faith in Danny. That said, I'm flabbergasted to find out what Rondo was worth in a trade. It's poignant, and it stings. I'd prefer we kept him or at least held out longer. That's of course said from an outsider's perspective.

We arguably got more to take on Thornton's deal, and he's not even a bad player.

I think what's hard to swallow is that we mostly got spreadsheet assets :

- Big TPE
- advanced stat darling on an expiring deal, flippable at deadline
- vet PG who contenders might want as a backup - flippable at deadline
- mediocre 1st

instead of oncourt assets:

-guys who will help you win basketball games
-young developing talents

As we've seen, Danny can definitely gather spreadsheet assets.  He's going to be judged on what he winds up accomplishing on the court when he finally cashes them in.

[Jonny CC]

How do you know that he was going to bail?  Just like Pierce and KG, he WANTED TO STAY.

Of course he wanted to stay. He also wanted entirely too much money.

Which is a great justification to just accept a garbage deal instead of trying to find something better, right?

Of course it is...

Given how vocal you have been this evening, I am sure you must have some inside knowledge that Danny passed up some other super-awesome deal to take this one. Since the rest of us are mere mortals and therefore have no inside knowledge of this incredible missed opportunity, please enlighten us so that we may also share in your despair.

No i don't. But it's very easy to say that there's about 2 months before the trade deadline, he could have easily worked the phones and possibly got a better offer. If not, then it's not for lack of trying. And this deal would probably still be on the table in the next week, or two, or a month.

Getting this deal, on a December, is either panicking or just basically just giving Rondo away.

Trading Rondo by the end of the day tomorrow meant that we can re-trade the guys we acquired before the trading deadline, either alone or in a package. 

It was very deliberate that we did this now, Danny just never made a peep about it until the day got close.   Remember Houston unsuccessfully tried the same thing with Asik last year.

Well, great. We traded a guy who leads the league in assists today for a bench guy, so that we can flip that bench guy again come trade deadline.

BTW, what do you think we can get for the bench guy and the late first round pick? Will it land us a four time All Star and an league leader in assists, or someone close?

KG was an all star too but he isn't now.  His past accomplishments are IRRELEVANT.  He is not the same player.  He can't shoot or play defense. Please stop talking about Rondo like he is the 2008 Rondo.  He's not.  He's not even close.   

[Yoki_IsTheName]

How do you know that he was going to bail?  Just like Pierce and KG, he WANTED TO STAY.

Of course he wanted to stay. He also wanted entirely too much money.

Which is a great justification to just accept a garbage deal instead of trying to find something better, right?

Of course it is...

Given how vocal you have been this evening, I am sure you must have some inside knowledge that Danny passed up some other super-awesome deal to take this one. Since the rest of us are mere mortals and therefore have no inside knowledge of this incredible missed opportunity, please enlighten us so that we may also share in your despair.

No i don't. But it's very easy to say that there's about 2 months before the trade deadline, he could have easily worked the phones and possibly got a better offer. If not, then it's not for lack of trying. And this deal would probably still be on the table in the next week, or two, or a month.

Getting this deal, on a December, is either panicking or just basically just giving Rondo away.

Trading Rondo by the end of the day tomorrow meant that we can re-trade the guys we acquired before the trading deadline, either alone or in a package. 

It was very deliberate that we did this now, Danny just never made a peep about it until the day got close.   Remember Houston unsuccessfully tried the same thing with Asik last year.

Well, great. We traded a guy who leads the league in assists today for a bench guy, so that we can flip that bench guy again come trade deadline.

BTW, what do you think we can get for the bench guy and the late first round pick? Will it land us a four time All Star and an league leader in assists, or someone close?

KG was an all star too but he isn't now.  His past accomplishments are IRRELEVANT.  He is not the same player.  He can't shoot or play defense. Please stop talking about Rondo like he is the 2008 Rondo.  He's not.  He's not even close.

Fine, I'll stop with Rondo. And Rondo wasnt as past his prime as KG was when he got dealt. But I'll stop.

But please stop saying that this is also a good deal, because it isnt.

[Tr1boy]

How do you know that he was going to bail?  Just like Pierce and KG, he WANTED TO STAY.

Of course he wanted to stay. He also wanted entirely too much money.

Which is a great justification to just accept a garbage deal instead of trying to find something better, right?

Of course it is...

Given how vocal you have been this evening, I am sure you must have some inside knowledge that Danny passed up some other super-awesome deal to take this one. Since the rest of us are mere mortals and therefore have no inside knowledge of this incredible missed opportunity, please enlighten us so that we may also share in your despair.

No i don't. But it's very easy to say that there's about 2 months before the trade deadline, he could have easily worked the phones and possibly got a better offer. If not, then it's not for lack of trying. And this deal would probably still be on the table in the next week, or two, or a month.

Getting this deal, on a December, is either panicking or just basically just giving Rondo away.

Trading Rondo by the end of the day tomorrow meant that we can re-trade the guys we acquired before the trading deadline, either alone or in a package. 

It was very deliberate that we did this now, Danny just never made a peep about it until the day got close.   Remember Houston unsuccessfully tried the same thing with Asik last year.

Well, great. We traded a guy who leads the league in assists today for a bench guy, so that we can flip that bench guy again come trade deadline.

BTW, what do you think we can get for the bench guy and the late first round pick? Will it land us a four time All Star and an league leader in assists, or someone close?

KG was an all star too but he isn't now.  His past accomplishments are IRRELEVANT.  He is not the same player.  He can't shoot or play defense. Please stop talking about Rondo like he is the 2008 Rondo.  He's not.  He's not even close.

+1

Watch what happens in the next 10 games

[Yoki_IsTheName]

How do you know that he was going to bail?  Just like Pierce and KG, he WANTED TO STAY.

Of course he wanted to stay. He also wanted entirely too much money.

Which is a great justification to just accept a garbage deal instead of trying to find something better, right?

Of course it is...

Given how vocal you have been this evening, I am sure you must have some inside knowledge that Danny passed up some other super-awesome deal to take this one. Since the rest of us are mere mortals and therefore have no inside knowledge of this incredible missed opportunity, please enlighten us so that we may also share in your despair.

No i don't. But it's very easy to say that there's about 2 months before the trade deadline, he could have easily worked the phones and possibly got a better offer. If not, then it's not for lack of trying. And this deal would probably still be on the table in the next week, or two, or a month.

Getting this deal, on a December, is either panicking or just basically just giving Rondo away.

Trading Rondo by the end of the day tomorrow meant that we can re-trade the guys we acquired before the trading deadline, either alone or in a package. 

It was very deliberate that we did this now, Danny just never made a peep about it until the day got close.   Remember Houston unsuccessfully tried the same thing with Asik last year.

Well, great. We traded a guy who leads the league in assists today for a bench guy, so that we can flip that bench guy again come trade deadline.

BTW, what do you think we can get for the bench guy and the late first round pick? Will it land us a four time All Star and an league leader in assists, or someone close?

KG was an all star too but he isn't now.  His past accomplishments are IRRELEVANT.  He is not the same player.  He can't shoot or play defense. Please stop talking about Rondo like he is the 2008 Rondo.  He's not.  He's not even close.

+1

Watch what happens in the next 10 games

I will, I dont mind eating crow, I did it a couple of times here already.

You and Danny better be right about this. Because if Rondo ends up a key piece in Dallas and Wright turns into a bench player, like he is, then you'll see why a lot of people are upset with this deal.

Boy I hope you guys are right.

[vinnie]

Although Wikipedia lists him at 210 pounds -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandan_Wright

  Just accept that you're wrong and move on! Am I going to hear that Bleacher Report has him at 205 next?   

At 240 pounds he is not a presence in the paint and is a below average defender.

You have no stats or facts to support your argument. You're too funny! TP. 

Really. Read the link to the article I posted that talks about him being a below average defender.

[ronaldo943]

Although Wikipedia lists him at 210 pounds -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandan_Wright

  Just accept that you're wrong and move on! Am I going to hear that Bleacher Report has him at 205 next?   

At 240 pounds he is not a presence in the paint and is a below average defender.

You have no stats or facts to support your argument. You're too funny! TP. 

Really. Read the link to the article I posted that talks about him being a below average defender.

Give me the link, thanks!

[vinnie]

Although Wikipedia lists him at 210 pounds -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandan_Wright

I trust ESPN more on this one

Does it matter what the correct number is?

Dude is skinny.

dude he is not 210.   After 7 seasons don't you think he has been able to add some pounds/strength along the way

I'd like to see him go at it with Al Jefferson, or Al Horford, or Roy Hibbert down low, seeming as you want him to be our Center. He can prove me wrong there. I dont think he will, but sure, by all means.

The whole weight thing is a flawed argument.  Last I checked, Anthony Davis is a pretty skinny dude and he's a beast.  Not saying that Wright is a comparable talent, just saying that weight isn't the be all end all.

+1. Wright and Chandler are similar kind of players. Putting both out on the floor at the same time = deficiencies in some areas

Now put Wright and KO or Wright and Sully.  We have been asking for a guy like this to match up with the intelligent but below the rim KO/Sully

What are you missing in the fact that Wright has been in the league for 7 years and is still a bench player?

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Although Wikipedia lists him at 210 pounds -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandan_Wright

I trust ESPN more on this one

Does it matter what the correct number is?

Dude is skinny.

dude he is not 210.   After 7 seasons don't you think he has been able to add some pounds/strength along the way

I'd like to see him go at it with Al Jefferson, or Al Horford, or Roy Hibbert down low, seeming as you want him to be our Center. He can prove me wrong there. I dont think he will, but sure, by all means.

The whole weight thing is a flawed argument.  Last I checked, Anthony Davis is a pretty skinny dude and he's a beast.  Not saying that Wright is a comparable talent, just saying that weight isn't the be all end all.

+1. Wright and Chandler are similar kind of players. Putting both out on the floor at the same time = deficiencies in some areas

Now put Wright and KO or Wright and Sully.  We have been asking for a guy like this to match up with the intelligent but below the rim KO/Sully

What are you missing in the fact that Wright has been in the league for 7 years and is still a bench player?

I think he ignores it vinnie, not missing it.