Knicks (4-20) at Celtics (7-13) Game #21 12/12/14

[Rondo9]

Rondo's stat line: 32 mins, 1-3 FGM-A, 0 PTS, 7 RBS, 10 AST.

They cannot survive with him being this passive. Only 3 fg attempts? ZERO points? Come on man. This has become an extremely troubling trend this season. He legitimately cannot score. I don't care that he averages 10 assists a game. He's becoming a huge problem.

No he's not it's the teams defense is the problem

[Celtics4ever]

Stevens minutes distribution makes no sense for any of the players.

You mean him benching guys who do not D up or mess up?

[PAOBoston]

Rondo's stat line: 32 mins, 1-3 FGM-A, 0 PTS, 7 RBS, 10 AST.

They cannot survive with him being this passive. Only 3 fg attempts? ZERO points? Come on man. This has become an extremely troubling trend this season. He legitimately cannot score. I don't care that he averages 10 assists a game. He's becoming a huge problem.

No he's not it's the teams defense is the problem

You don't think it's a problem that the so called "star" (as many of you put it) of the team is averaging under 10 PPG, shooting under 40% shooting, around 30% FT, and sub par defense in a contract year? I guess we'll agree to disagree. I don't think Rondo fits on this team.

[Rondo9]

Rondo's stat line: 32 mins, 1-3 FGM-A, 0 PTS, 7 RBS, 10 AST.

They cannot survive with him being this passive. Only 3 fg attempts? ZERO points? Come on man. This has become an extremely troubling trend this season. He legitimately cannot score. I don't care that he averages 10 assists a game. He's becoming a huge problem.

No he's not it's the teams defense is the problem

You don't think it's a problem that the so called "star" (as many of you put it) of the team is averaging under 10 PPG, shooting under 40% shooting, around 30% FT, and sub par defense in a contract year? I guess we'll agree to disagree. I don't think Rondo fits on this team.

First of all yes rondo is a star and second while his numbers are low they're not be all end all of a player and I expect it to improve there are more problems to this team than just rondo

[Eddie20]

Rondo's stat line: 32 mins, 1-3 FGM-A, 0 PTS, 7 RBS, 10 AST.

They cannot survive with him being this passive. Only 3 fg attempts? ZERO points? Come on man. This has become an extremely troubling trend this season. He legitimately cannot score. I don't care that he averages 10 assists a game. He's becoming a huge problem.

No he's not it's the teams defense is the problem

You don't think it's a problem that the so called "star" (as many of you put it) of the team is averaging under 10 PPG, shooting under 40% shooting, around 30% FT, and sub par defense in a contract year? I guess we'll agree to disagree. I don't think Rondo fits on this team.

First of all yes rondo is a star and second while his numbers are low they're not be all end all of a player and I expect it to improve there are more problems to this team than just rondo

Well, at least you agree that Rondo is part of the problem.

[Rondo9]

Rondo's stat line: 32 mins, 1-3 FGM-A, 0 PTS, 7 RBS, 10 AST.

They cannot survive with him being this passive. Only 3 fg attempts? ZERO points? Come on man. This has become an extremely troubling trend this season. He legitimately cannot score. I don't care that he averages 10 assists a game. He's becoming a huge problem.

No he's not it's the teams defense is the problem

You don't think it's a problem that the so called "star" (as many of you put it) of the team is averaging under 10 PPG, shooting under 40% shooting, around 30% FT, and sub par defense in a contract year? I guess we'll agree to disagree. I don't think Rondo fits on this team.

First of all yes rondo is a star and second while his numbers are low they're not be all end all of a player and I expect it to improve there are more problems to this team than just rondo

Well, at least you agree that Rondo is part of the problem.

A small part of the problem but not a huge part or the problem like you and the others suggesting him to be

[Eddie20]

Rondo's stat line: 32 mins, 1-3 FGM-A, 0 PTS, 7 RBS, 10 AST.

They cannot survive with him being this passive. Only 3 fg attempts? ZERO points? Come on man. This has become an extremely troubling trend this season. He legitimately cannot score. I don't care that he averages 10 assists a game. He's becoming a huge problem.

No he's not it's the teams defense is the problem

You don't think it's a problem that the so called "star" (as many of you put it) of the team is averaging under 10 PPG, shooting under 40% shooting, around 30% FT, and sub par defense in a contract year? I guess we'll agree to disagree. I don't think Rondo fits on this team.

First of all yes rondo is a star and second while his numbers are low they're not be all end all of a player and I expect it to improve there are more problems to this team than just rondo

Well, at least you agree that Rondo is part of the problem.

A small part of the problem but not a huge part or the problem like you and the others suggesting him to be

In the last 8 games he's scored 2 pts or less 5 times. 5 times and he's playing major minutes.

He's a complete liability in the 4Q, which should be no coincidence that we've had so many late game collapses. Just yesterday, Forsberg wrote about him shooting 27.9% from the field and a minus 47 in +/- in the 4Q.

Sounds like the problem is a little larger than you care to give it credit for. Plus, he's about to get major money that would tie up a good chunk of our cap.

[Nerf DPOY]

Rondo's stat line: 32 mins, 1-3 FGM-A, 0 PTS, 7 RBS, 10 AST.

They cannot survive with him being this passive. Only 3 fg attempts? ZERO points? Come on man. This has become an extremely troubling trend this season. He legitimately cannot score. I don't care that he averages 10 assists a game. He's becoming a huge problem.

No he's not it's the teams defense is the problem

You don't think it's a problem that the so called "star" (as many of you put it) of the team is averaging under 10 PPG, shooting under 40% shooting, around 30% FT, and sub par defense in a contract year? I guess we'll agree to disagree. I don't think Rondo fits on this team.

First of all yes rondo is a star and second while his numbers are low they're not be all end all of a player and I expect it to improve there are more problems to this team than just rondo

Well, at least you agree that Rondo is part of the problem.

A small part of the problem but not a huge part or the problem like you and the others suggesting him to be

In the last 8 games he's scored 2 pts or less 5 times. 5 times and he's playing major minutes.

He's a complete liability in the 4Q, which should be no coincidence that we've had so many late game collapses. Just yesterday, Forsberg wrote about him shooting 27.9% from the field and a minus 47 in +/- in the 4Q.

Sounds like the problem is a little larger than you care to give it credit for. Plus, he's about to get major money that would tie up a good chunk of our cap.

If he's the awful player you seem to want to make him out to be, why would Ainge or any other team offer him huge money? To suggest that they would, it seems you believe that they don't understand basketball the way that you do.

[MBunge]

Stevens minutes distribution makes no sense for any of the players.

You mean him benching guys who do not D up or mess up?

1.  He appears to think if he plays anyone but Green more than 35 minutes, they will fall over and die.

2.  He's clearly hesitant to play Zeller or Thornton more than 25 minutes, no matter how well they play or how poorly others play.

3.  His rotations seem to have little to do with game situations.

Overall, Stevens has now coached over 100 NBA games and shows very little feel for how minutes should be managed in blowouts, close games and "need to win" games.

Mike

[MBunge]

Rondo is not THE problem.

He is demonstrating, though, that he isn't THE solution.

Mike

[TheFlex]

Rondo is not THE problem.

He is demonstrating, though, that he isn't THE solution.

Mike

TP.

[Eddie20]

Rondo's stat line: 32 mins, 1-3 FGM-A, 0 PTS, 7 RBS, 10 AST.

They cannot survive with him being this passive. Only 3 fg attempts? ZERO points? Come on man. This has become an extremely troubling trend this season. He legitimately cannot score. I don't care that he averages 10 assists a game. He's becoming a huge problem.

No he's not it's the teams defense is the problem

You don't think it's a problem that the so called "star" (as many of you put it) of the team is averaging under 10 PPG, shooting under 40% shooting, around 30% FT, and sub par defense in a contract year? I guess we'll agree to disagree. I don't think Rondo fits on this team.

First of all yes rondo is a star and second while his numbers are low they're not be all end all of a player and I expect it to improve there are more problems to this team than just rondo

Well, at least you agree that Rondo is part of the problem.

A small part of the problem but not a huge part or the problem like you and the others suggesting him to be

In the last 8 games he's scored 2 pts or less 5 times. 5 times and he's playing major minutes.

He's a complete liability in the 4Q, which should be no coincidence that we've had so many late game collapses. Just yesterday, Forsberg wrote about him shooting 27.9% from the field and a minus 47 in +/- in the 4Q.

Sounds like the problem is a little larger than you care to give it credit for. Plus, he's about to get major money that would tie up a good chunk of our cap.

If he's the awful player you seem to want to make him out to be, why would Ainge or any other team offer him huge money? To suggest that they would, it seems you believe that they don't understand basketball the way that you do.

I never said he's an awful player. He's a good player, but ridiculously flawed. A player that seems to be overrated more on his flashiness than his actual impact on the game. Whoever pays him near max will have immediate buyers remorse.

[Celtics4ever]

He's a good player, but ridiculously flawed.

That could be said of half our roster right now.   Lots of strength and a myriad of flaws and limitations.  Tanking via roster!

[Rondo9]

Rondo is not THE problem.

He is demonstrating, though, that he isn't THE solution.

Mike

But he's part of the solution

[Rondo9]

Rondo's stat line: 32 mins, 1-3 FGM-A, 0 PTS, 7 RBS, 10 AST.

They cannot survive with him being this passive. Only 3 fg attempts? ZERO points? Come on man. This has become an extremely troubling trend this season. He legitimately cannot score. I don't care that he averages 10 assists a game. He's becoming a huge problem.

No he's not it's the teams defense is the problem

You don't think it's a problem that the so called "star" (as many of you put it) of the team is averaging under 10 PPG, shooting under 40% shooting, around 30% FT, and sub par defense in a contract year? I guess we'll agree to disagree. I don't think Rondo fits on this team.

First of all yes rondo is a star and second while his numbers are low they're not be all end all of a player and I expect it to improve there are more problems to this team than just rondo

Well, at least you agree that Rondo is part of the problem.

A small part of the problem but not a huge part or the problem like you and the others suggesting him to be

In the last 8 games he's scored 2 pts or less 5 times. 5 times and he's playing major minutes.

He's a complete liability in the 4Q, which should be no coincidence that we've had so many late game collapses. Just yesterday, Forsberg wrote about him shooting 27.9% from the field and a minus 47 in +/- in the 4Q.

Sounds like the problem is a little larger than you care to give it credit for. Plus, he's about to get major money that would tie up a good chunk of our cap.

If he's the awful player you seem to want to make him out to be, why would Ainge or any other team offer him huge money? To suggest that they would, it seems you believe that they don't understand basketball the way that you do.

I never said he's an awful player. He's a good player, but ridiculously flawed. A player that seems to be overrated more on his flashiness then his actual impact on the game. Whoever pays him near max will have immediate buyers remorse.

Or will be satisfied that they got a unique and impactful player who's probably the best passer in the NBA right now.