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Re: What I Would Look for in a Jeff Green Replacement
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2014, 03:06:10 PM »

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I think I found him..

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This, Stanley Johnson with the first pick, Dakari Johnson with the second  ;D

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Re: What I Would Look for in a Jeff Green Replacement
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2014, 03:13:28 PM »

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I think I found him..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAyuQYTvTM0

This, Stanley Johnson with the first pick, Dakari Johnson with the second  ;D

Roll the tanks!

Sign me but those two with Smart and Sully would make the Cs look more like a really tall football team. The projected lineup of the future would have AB looking like a tooth pick. Smart 225lbs, AB 185lbs, S Johnson 245, Sully 270 and D Johnson 280. Not to mention Young has been quoted saying he wants to eventually play at 235! 
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Re: What I Would Look for in a Jeff Green Replacement
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2014, 03:16:33 PM »

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I think I found him..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAyuQYTvTM0

This, Stanley Johnson with the first pick, Dakari Johnson with the second  ;D

Roll the tanks!

Sign me but those two with Smart and Sully would make the Cs look more like a really tall football team. The projected lineup of the future would have AB looking like a tooth pick. Smart 225lbs, AB 185lbs, S Johnson 245, Sully 270 and D Johnson 280. Not to mention Young has been quoted saying he wants to eventually play at 235!

I'm all about us getting that Smart, Young, Johnson. Am I right..??

Re: What I Would Look for in a Jeff Green Replacement
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2014, 03:18:11 PM »

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I mean, Green was a top 5 pick and is currently 17th overall in the league in scoring on 45.2% shooting. 

On the other hand, I wouldn't be crying myself to sleep drafting Justise Winslow or Stanley Johnson.....or even trading Green, Wallace's expiring and a couple picks for Melo.


Re: What I Would Look for in a Jeff Green Replacement
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2014, 03:50:42 PM »

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I mean, Green was a top 5 pick and is currently 17th overall in the league in scoring on 45.2% shooting. 

On the other hand, I wouldn't be crying myself to sleep drafting Justise Winslow or Stanley Johnson.....or even trading Green, Wallace's expiring and a couple picks for Melo.

I think you would have to also throw KO into that deal, but I would be all about bringing Carmelo here. For a Green replacement, I would want an upgrade (like Carmelo) or a young up and coming SF (like Wiggins, Jabari, Giannis). I can see Turner as a possible replacement, but that would mean massive upgrades at SG and C.

Re: What I Would Look for in a Jeff Green Replacement
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2014, 04:17:17 PM »

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If we can resign Green for similar money then we should jump at the chance.

He'll never be Lebron or Durant, but he's better than most small forwards on current title contenders. There really isn't a realistic replacement we could get without wildly overpaying. Small Forward is the rarest position in the NBA right now.


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Re: What I Would Look for in a Jeff Green Replacement
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2014, 04:33:34 PM »

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Green is having a career season so far, and you want to figure out how to replace him?

How about trying to figure out how to keep him??

Some people want to sell high or have never liked Green and have always wanted him gone.  I'm telling those people what sort of replacement plan they would need to convince me that is a good idea.
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Re: What I Would Look for in a Jeff Green Replacement
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2014, 05:01:42 PM »

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-Can function as a secondary ball-handler.  Ideally, I'd like a guy who can sometimes play as a point forward with the second unit.  Maybe Jeff Green can still be that guy.
How many SFs are good enough ball-handlers and passers to be a secondary ball-handler?
So I am listing:

- Iguodala (30yo)
- Batum
- Parsons
- Hayward
- Giannis Ade...whateverhisnameis
- Celtics' very own Evan Turner

Top stars like LeBron and Durant . Older players like Pierce, Tayshaun and JJ (33 yo).

Maybe Jabari Parker further down the road.

JJ would be an interesting replacement for Jeff if the C's are fanatical about keeping AB.  I can imagine Brooklyn going for Green/Wallace/Bass as a trade package too.

JJ'd be overpaid, but you figure Green and Wallace are probably going to cost you near $24 mil next year anyway.

I wouldn't do it, but it would make AB less of a problem.
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Re: What I Would Look for in a Jeff Green Replacement
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2014, 05:38:24 PM »

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Green is having a career season so far, and you want to figure out how to replace him?

How about trying to figure out how to keep him??

Some people want to sell high or have never liked Green and have always wanted him gone.  I'm telling those people what sort of replacement plan they would need to convince me that is a good idea.

It's unlikely he'd come here but I'd rather pay Jimmy Butler the max and have his age 26-29 years than re-sign Green at 12-14 million for his age 29-32 years.

If we re-sign Rondo, however, there may be no other option than to re-sign Green.

Re: What I Would Look for in a Jeff Green Replacement
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2014, 05:47:42 PM »

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Green is having a career season so far, and you want to figure out how to replace him?

How about trying to figure out how to keep him??

Some people want to sell high or have never liked Green and have always wanted him gone.  I'm telling those people what sort of replacement plan they would need to convince me that is a good idea.

It's unlikely he'd come here but I'd rather pay Jimmy Butler the max and have his age 26-29 years than re-sign Green at 12-14 million for his age 29-32 years.

If we re-sign Rondo, however, there may be no other option than to re-sign Green.

Given the dearth of wing options I think I'd pay Butler the max (assuming this is the 2015 max and not the 2016 max) in a heartbeat


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Re: What I Would Look for in a Jeff Green Replacement
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2014, 05:54:01 PM »

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Green is having a career season so far, and you want to figure out how to replace him?

How about trying to figure out how to keep him??

Some people want to sell high or have never liked Green and have always wanted him gone.  I'm telling those people what sort of replacement plan they would need to convince me that is a good idea.

It's unlikely he'd come here but I'd rather pay Jimmy Butler the max and have his age 26-29 years than re-sign Green at 12-14 million for his age 29-32 years.

If we re-sign Rondo, however, there may be no other option than to re-sign Green.

If Ainge keeps both, does Boston have any cap space next summer after signing Rondo and Green to big contracts?

Re: What I Would Look for in a Jeff Green Replacement
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2014, 05:54:49 PM »

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I wouldn't replace him. He's a really nice player. He just isn't able to provide what Paul Pierce could. He doesn't have great separation moves, and he doesn't make that little second move to freeze big guys.

If he can get that left foot down and get the ball off the floor he can finish over anyone. He needs to drive on the move because when the defense is set it is too easy for the help to attack his dribble and screw him up. He's cool under pressure so he's a great second option at the end of games, but not a great primary guy.

When Evan Turner is your best one on one scorer, you will not be competing for a championship. We need one cold blooded isolation scorer. We don't need to get rid of Green.

Re: What I Would Look for in a Jeff Green Replacement
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2014, 06:03:53 PM »

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Green is having a career season so far, and you want to figure out how to replace him?

How about trying to figure out how to keep him??

Some people want to sell high or have never liked Green and have always wanted him gone.  I'm telling those people what sort of replacement plan they would need to convince me that is a good idea.

It's unlikely he'd come here but I'd rather pay Jimmy Butler the max and have his age 26-29 years than re-sign Green at 12-14 million for his age 29-32 years.

If we re-sign Rondo, however, there may be no other option than to re-sign Green.

Given the dearth of wing options I think I'd pay Butler the max (assuming this is the 2015 max and not the 2016 max) in a heartbeat

Yes, Butler is a RFA at the end of this season. The Bulls would have to go past the luxury tax to match a max offer, but it's possible they could feel it's worth it for one year before the expected jump in 2016 gives them some breathing room. Or, they could trade Taj Gibson (8.7 million/year until 2017) to some team with cap space to save some money. That is where also having Mirotic and Gasol is a big luxury.

Re: What I Would Look for in a Jeff Green Replacement
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2014, 06:21:44 PM »

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Re: What I Would Look for in a Jeff Green Replacement
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2014, 02:14:32 AM »

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Green is having a career season so far, and you want to figure out how to replace him?

How about trying to figure out how to keep him??

Some people want to sell high or have never liked Green and have always wanted him gone.  I'm telling those people what sort of replacement plan they would need to convince me that is a good idea.

It's unlikely he'd come here but I'd rather pay Jimmy Butler the max and have his age 26-29 years than re-sign Green at 12-14 million for his age 29-32 years.

If we re-sign Rondo, however, there may be no other option than to re-sign Green.

If Ainge keeps both, does Boston have any cap space next summer after signing Rondo and Green to big contracts?

I don't remember what the max would be for Rondo in his first year but the Celtics will be at 37.5 million without Rondo or Green on the books according to shamsports. If you assume their combined salary will rise to around 30 million, that will bring the Celtics right up to the 2015 salary cap estimates of around 68 million.

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/celtics.jsp

So yeah, re-signing both Green and Rondo will take up almost all of their cap space. If Ainge is planning on keeping both he may want to exchange his expirings in Thornton and Bass for someone who's signed past 2015. Or, he can wait for the cap to rise in 2016 but then a lot of teams will have like 20 million + in space and they'll all be competing for the same guys.