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[Chris22]

Anyone who says the Garnett and Pierce trade was a bad one is an idiot.

It was one of the greatest trades in NBA history.

The mistake was keeping Rondo.

[Beat LA]

I was honestly torn between Randle and Smart, out of fear that not taking Randle could come back to haunt us one day, and that may still happen.  It's terrible that he's out for the rest of the year.

All of that aside, we had two older hall of famers, and we traded them for crap, when what we should have done was to keep KG and Pierce, which means that our two picks would have been mid first round, allowing us to get James Young, KJ McDaniels, and perhaps we could have traded Sully for Randle or McGary.  Wouldn't you rather have KG, Pierce, Rondo, Young, and McDaniels, instead of Smart, Rondo, Young, KO, and Green?  I know I would, but Ainge completely and utterly blew it.  Sigh.

But we only would have had one pick since the BKN trade never would have happened. We can assume we may have gotten Young, but no McDaniels or McGary

Also, we would not have firsts in 2016 and 2018 (and option to trade picks in 2017 - this is totally working for Atl this year, btw). Whether or not you thought the deal was in bad taste, we still made out pretty well when our future was only going to be average. To be fair, though, we did have to take on three years of Wallace (but they took on two years of Terry).

Ah - I was wondering if our second first rounder was our own or from someone else, so TP .  I still think that we could have gotten a similar pick from the Clippers for Doc, though, but naturally I have no way of knowing that.  Wallace's contract is what also made the deal idiotic, imo.  At least Terry's was an MLE deal, lol. 

Now, I'm sure that many will say that Pierce and Garnett would never have stayed if Doc had left, but I don't know about that.  Unlike Ainge, those two are insanely loyal, and Garnett doesn't like change, and Pierce wanted to retire as a Celtic, as he should have done, and after all of the crap over his career here, I think that Danny owed it to him to let him retire here.  Plus, even though we were crap last year, we didn't even get one of the top picks, but that's how it's always worked for us.  Sigh.  I always try to think a few steps ahead, and even though we wouldn't have gotten those draft picks in return, I still think that we could, and would, have been in a better position today instead of our current situation, but that's me.

[Beat LA]

Anyone who says the Garnett and Pierce trade was a bad one is an idiot.

It was one of the greatest trades in NBA history.

The mistake was keeping Rondo.

THANKS, lol! - and how do you know that it's one of the greatest trades in NBA history when we haven't even gotten to the point where we've selected guys using the draft picks for which we traded our legends?

[Chris22]

Anyone who says the Garnett and Pierce trade was a bad one is an idiot.

It was one of the greatest trades in NBA history.

The mistake was keeping Rondo.

THANKS, lol! - and how do you know that it's one of the greatest trades in NBA history when we haven't even gotten to the point where we've selected guys from the draft picks for which we traded our legends?

Please.

It was an awesome trade. I can hardly wait to see how far we go with 5 first round picks in the next two years.

[Beat LA]

Anyone who says the Garnett and Pierce trade was a bad one is an idiot.

It was one of the greatest trades in NBA history.

The mistake was keeping Rondo.

THANKS, lol! - and how do you know that it's one of the greatest trades in NBA history when we haven't even gotten to the point where we've selected guys from the draft picks for which we traded our legends?

Please.

It was an awesome trade. I can hardly wait to see how far we go with 5 first round picks in the next two years.

I can only hope that you're right .

[Chris22]

Anyone who says the Garnett and Pierce trade was a bad one is an idiot.

It was one of the greatest trades in NBA history.

The mistake was keeping Rondo.

THANKS, lol! - and how do you know that it's one of the greatest trades in NBA history when we haven't even gotten to the point where we've selected guys from the draft picks for which we traded our legends?

Please.

It was an awesome trade. I can hardly wait to see how far we go with 5 first round picks in the next two years.

I can only hope that you're right .

Young and Smart are only the beginning.

[Future Celtics Owner]

Anyone who says the Garnett and Pierce trade was a bad one is an idiot.

It was one of the greatest trades in NBA history.

The mistake was keeping Rondo.

THANKS, lol! - and how do you know that it's one of the greatest trades in NBA history when we haven't even gotten to the point where we've selected guys from the draft picks for which we traded our legends?

Please.

It was an awesome trade. I can hardly wait to see how far we go with 5 first round picks in the next two years.

I can only hope that you're right .

Young and Smart are only the beginning.

Don't forget that we get 76ers 2nd round pick the next 2 years...which is essentially a very late first

[Beat LA]

Anyone who says the Garnett and Pierce trade was a bad one is an idiot.

It was one of the greatest trades in NBA history.

The mistake was keeping Rondo.

THANKS, lol! - and how do you know that it's one of the greatest trades in NBA history when we haven't even gotten to the point where we've selected guys from the draft picks for which we traded our legends?

Please.

It was an awesome trade. I can hardly wait to see how far we go with 5 first round picks in the next two years.

I can only hope that you're right .

Young and Smart are only the beginning.

Oh I wanted Young (and KJ McDaniels ), and I'll sign off on Smart, but like I said before (in another thread or not, I can't remember right now.  It's late lol .), it was a toss up between him and Randle.  I kind of wish that we could have traded Sully for him, but I doubt that the Lakers are that dumb, so how about Mitch McGary? 

[cb8883]

Anyone who says the Garnett and Pierce trade was a bad one is an idiot.

It was one of the greatest trades in NBA history.

The mistake was keeping Rondo.

THANKS, lol! - and how do you know that it's one of the greatest trades in NBA history when we haven't even gotten to the point where we've selected guys from the draft picks for which we traded our legends?

Please.

It was an awesome trade. I can hardly wait to see how far we go with 5 first round picks in the next two years.

With Danny Ainge at the helm we will probably pick the starting 5 from Pepperdine and sell them as good players to Celtics fans!!! Awful. Good trade but clueless GM that will be making the picks.

[BballTim]

Anyone who says the Garnett and Pierce trade was a bad one is an idiot.

It was one of the greatest trades in NBA history.

The mistake was keeping Rondo.

  How long have you been following the nba?

[BballTim]

Anyone who says the Garnett and Pierce trade was a bad one is an idiot.

It was one of the greatest trades in NBA history.

The mistake was keeping Rondo.

THANKS, lol! - and how do you know that it's one of the greatest trades in NBA history when we haven't even gotten to the point where we've selected guys from the draft picks for which we traded our legends?

Please.

It was an awesome trade. I can hardly wait to see how far we go with 5 first round picks in the next two years.

With Danny Ainge at the helm we will probably pick the starting 5 from Pepperdine and sell them as good players to Celtics fans!!! Awful. Good trade but clueless GM that will be making the picks.

  I don't think I've ever seen an unbiased assessment of Danny's drafting that didn't rate him above average.

[gpap]

Anyone who says the Garnett and Pierce trade was a bad one is an idiot.

It was one of the greatest trades in NBA history.

The mistake was keeping Rondo.

Dude, what you're saying is insane.

In fact, I am going to go in the complete opposite direction and say that dealing both guys was a mistake.

Funny part is originally, I actually supported the trade because I really didn't think PP and KG had much left after that horrible playoff run vs the Knicks in 2013.

Turns out, I was wrong.

Both guys meant so much more to the team other than what they did on the court and I feel like when both guys were dealt (Paul especially) that a large part of the Celtics franchise left with them.

Now granted, if the Celts end up drafting a very good player with one of the Nets picks OR if the one of those picks becomes instrumental in a deal for an all-star, I'll change my mind again.

But right now, the way it's looking, we dealt our heart and soul for Wallace's garbage contract, one year of Humphries and 3 draft picks which may or may not be worth anything.

Sometimes I wonder if the whole rebuilding crap could've been completely avoided if Ainge acquired a couple veterans in the summer of 2013 and if he kept Pierce and KG.

EDIT: Also in regards to Rondo. In fairness to Danny, if he was successful in trading Rondo for Chris Paul which he tried to do before the 2011-12 season, the Celts defeat Miami in the ECF that season and likely steamroll through OKC in the 2012 finals.

No offense to Rondo, but getting Chris Paul would've added a couple years of shelf life to Pierce and KG but CP3 didn't want to come here.

[Celtics4ever]

Still very early to judge the trade, we have not got all the picks.

[D.o.s.]

Anyone who says the Garnett and Pierce trade was a bad one is an idiot.

It was one of the greatest trades in NBA history.

The mistake was keeping Rondo.

I agree with the first line, although it doesn't really measure up to the greatest trades in NBA history -- but that's mostly because it's going up against things like the Bill Russell trade (http://wagesofwins.com/2010/06/15/trading-the-ice-capades-for-bill-russell/) and the like.


The only real tragedy about the Pierce and Garnett trade was that Paul wasn't allowed to play his entire career here. That really bummed me out.

How was keeping Rondo a mistake?

[wayupnorth]

Anyone who says the Garnett and Pierce trade was a bad one is an idiot.

It was one of the greatest trades in NBA history.

The mistake was keeping Rondo.

THANKS, lol! - and how do you know that it's one of the greatest trades in NBA history when we haven't even gotten to the point where we've selected guys from the draft picks for which we traded our legends?

Please.

It was an awesome trade. I can hardly wait to see how far we go with 5 first round picks in the next two years.

With Danny Ainge at the helm we will probably pick the starting 5 from Pepperdine and sell them as good players to Celtics fans!!! Awful. Good trade but clueless GM that will be making the picks.

Seriously?

How ignorant can someone be?