Celtics Telling Teams Rajon Rondo Won't Be Traded

[LooseCannon]

"They're definitely bravely saying they won't trade him at this point," said one general manager, who nevertheless added, "I definitely think it's the right thing to trade him. I think Danny knows it."

I think Ainge is much less risk-averse than other GMs (which is a good thing), so I think he sometimes disagrees on what the right move is.  It sounds like a rival GM wants to trade for Rondo and using an anonymous quote to pressure Ainge to stop holding onto Rondo so tightly, but I think Ainge is less susceptible to fear of being thought a fool than other GMs are.

Actually I've reached the conclusion that Ainge is HIGHLY risk-averse. Other GMs would probably have pulled the trigger on any number of trades over the past few years, butAinge just keeps holding out for fear of losing an asset (Sullinger, Olynyk, Rondo) that will hurt in the long run. He wants to keep Rondo and continue building around him. Don't believe it?  I'm saying seeing is believing!

I think Ainge's Plan A involves Rondo remaining a Celtic and he is much more willing to risk losing Rondo for nothing than other GMs are.

[BballTim]

I just saw this on NBC Sports - http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/19/cavaliers-gm-says-no-one-is-untouchable-as-he-looks-at-ways-to-improve-roster/

    Cavaliers general manager David Griffin is as aggressive as they come. It would be easy for him to sit back and wait for this LeBron James-led team to figure things out. He’ll remain patient through this process, but says he’s constantly strategizing ways to advance the team’s acceleration.

    And in doing so, Griffin will spare no effort even if it means including a player in a deal no one even suspected was available.

    “No one is untouchable, and you’re never done building a team, so we’re always paying attention to what opportunities are out there,” Griffin told Northeast Ohio Media Group. “My tendency is always trying to do what we can do to improve the roster. But I’m not looking to create one so much as paying attention to what I’m hearing.”

That’s just patently false.

LeBron James is untouchable, and Kevin Love is too. It does get a bit murkier, however, once you get past those two players.

Kyrie Irving should be on that list, and he probably is. But if Cleveland truly needs to win now, might they be willing to part with its All-Star point guard in exchange for another who’s better at setting up teammates, and wouldn’t require nearly as many shots?

Rajon Rondo comes to mind here as a name that might make some sense, but bringing this up is purely speculative to show a scenario in which one could picture the team being willing to part with Irving if it felt his replacement would be better-suited to helping the cause this season.

What the Cavaliers could definitely use is a wing defender, the three-and-D type that’s become popular around the league in recent seasons. That’s why Courtney Lee‘s name has come up in trade rumors, but any deal for him (or anyone else) that may materialize won’t include discussions of certain Cleveland players — despite the general manager’s latest assertion.

Where there is smoke...

  That's about as much smoke as a trade proposal thread on celticsblog.

Denial is a coping mechanism that gives you time to adjust to distressing situations — but staying in denial can interfere with treatment or your ability to tackle challenges.

If you're in denial, you're trying to protect yourself by refusing to accept the truth about something that's happening in your life.

By Mayo Clinic Staff

  Yeah, good one. I say, stick with what works. For you it's comedy. Most of it's unintentional and stems from your observations about basketball, but it's good for you to branch out like this.

Just trying to keep you levelheaded, man. Rondo could easily be traded, so constant reminder might make the hurt easier to handle.

we've been told Rondo will be traded for the past 5 seasons. I am not against trading him if we get a good package back, but Ben McLemore and filler is not a good return for Rondo. The only guys Rondo has been offered for is CP3 and Steph Curry, Danny is not dumb. I will believe it when I see it .

More than just that those. He was also reportedly offered, along with Ray Allen, for Rip, Prince, and Stuckey. Now that's one that I'm glad didn't go through.

There was also the Westbrook rumor.

  "rumor" being the key term in this discussion.

It was Woj who reported it. See, that's the denial I was referring to.

  Go back and re-read your own post. You called it a rumor, I just agreed with you.

  Hilarious.

[Eddie20]

I just saw this on NBC Sports - http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/19/cavaliers-gm-says-no-one-is-untouchable-as-he-looks-at-ways-to-improve-roster/

    Cavaliers general manager David Griffin is as aggressive as they come. It would be easy for him to sit back and wait for this LeBron James-led team to figure things out. He’ll remain patient through this process, but says he’s constantly strategizing ways to advance the team’s acceleration.

    And in doing so, Griffin will spare no effort even if it means including a player in a deal no one even suspected was available.

    “No one is untouchable, and you’re never done building a team, so we’re always paying attention to what opportunities are out there,” Griffin told Northeast Ohio Media Group. “My tendency is always trying to do what we can do to improve the roster. But I’m not looking to create one so much as paying attention to what I’m hearing.”

That’s just patently false.

LeBron James is untouchable, and Kevin Love is too. It does get a bit murkier, however, once you get past those two players.

Kyrie Irving should be on that list, and he probably is. But if Cleveland truly needs to win now, might they be willing to part with its All-Star point guard in exchange for another who’s better at setting up teammates, and wouldn’t require nearly as many shots?

Rajon Rondo comes to mind here as a name that might make some sense, but bringing this up is purely speculative to show a scenario in which one could picture the team being willing to part with Irving if it felt his replacement would be better-suited to helping the cause this season.

What the Cavaliers could definitely use is a wing defender, the three-and-D type that’s become popular around the league in recent seasons. That’s why Courtney Lee‘s name has come up in trade rumors, but any deal for him (or anyone else) that may materialize won’t include discussions of certain Cleveland players — despite the general manager’s latest assertion.

Where there is smoke...

  That's about as much smoke as a trade proposal thread on celticsblog.

Denial is a coping mechanism that gives you time to adjust to distressing situations — but staying in denial can interfere with treatment or your ability to tackle challenges.

If you're in denial, you're trying to protect yourself by refusing to accept the truth about something that's happening in your life.

By Mayo Clinic Staff

  Yeah, good one. I say, stick with what works. For you it's comedy. Most of it's unintentional and stems from your observations about basketball, but it's good for you to branch out like this.

Just trying to keep you levelheaded, man. Rondo could easily be traded, so constant reminder might make the hurt easier to handle.

we've been told Rondo will be traded for the past 5 seasons. I am not against trading him if we get a good package back, but Ben McLemore and filler is not a good return for Rondo. The only guys Rondo has been offered for is CP3 and Steph Curry, Danny is not dumb. I will believe it when I see it .

More than just that those. He was also reportedly offered, along with Ray Allen, for Rip, Prince, and Stuckey. Now that's one that I'm glad didn't go through.

There was also the Westbrook rumor.

  "rumor" being the key term in this discussion.

It was Woj who reported it. See, that's the denial I was referring to.

  Go back and re-read your own post. You called it a rumor, I just agreed with you.

  Hilarious.

Timmy, I'm just trying to help you out. I don't want to see you get hurt if your hero is traded.

Just because they're indeed "rumors" doesn't mean they don't have validity. Especially when reported by some of the most credible reporters in the business. However, you seem very dismissive of reports by these individuals who have nothing to gain by it, yet believe Ainge, who has everything to gain by refuting it. I find that very peculiar.

[jay]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=njg42k6


Rondo, Sullinger, Young, picks, filler

For

Kyrie, Thompson, Filler



Get younger by swapping Rondo for Kyrie, but he is certainly a shoot first PG, so how would that work with Bradley, Smart, and Green?

[BballTim]

I just saw this on NBC Sports - http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/19/cavaliers-gm-says-no-one-is-untouchable-as-he-looks-at-ways-to-improve-roster/

    Cavaliers general manager David Griffin is as aggressive as they come. It would be easy for him to sit back and wait for this LeBron James-led team to figure things out. He’ll remain patient through this process, but says he’s constantly strategizing ways to advance the team’s acceleration.

    And in doing so, Griffin will spare no effort even if it means including a player in a deal no one even suspected was available.

    “No one is untouchable, and you’re never done building a team, so we’re always paying attention to what opportunities are out there,” Griffin told Northeast Ohio Media Group. “My tendency is always trying to do what we can do to improve the roster. But I’m not looking to create one so much as paying attention to what I’m hearing.”

That’s just patently false.

LeBron James is untouchable, and Kevin Love is too. It does get a bit murkier, however, once you get past those two players.

Kyrie Irving should be on that list, and he probably is. But if Cleveland truly needs to win now, might they be willing to part with its All-Star point guard in exchange for another who’s better at setting up teammates, and wouldn’t require nearly as many shots?

Rajon Rondo comes to mind here as a name that might make some sense, but bringing this up is purely speculative to show a scenario in which one could picture the team being willing to part with Irving if it felt his replacement would be better-suited to helping the cause this season.

What the Cavaliers could definitely use is a wing defender, the three-and-D type that’s become popular around the league in recent seasons. That’s why Courtney Lee‘s name has come up in trade rumors, but any deal for him (or anyone else) that may materialize won’t include discussions of certain Cleveland players — despite the general manager’s latest assertion.

Where there is smoke...

  That's about as much smoke as a trade proposal thread on celticsblog.

Denial is a coping mechanism that gives you time to adjust to distressing situations — but staying in denial can interfere with treatment or your ability to tackle challenges.

If you're in denial, you're trying to protect yourself by refusing to accept the truth about something that's happening in your life.

By Mayo Clinic Staff

  Yeah, good one. I say, stick with what works. For you it's comedy. Most of it's unintentional and stems from your observations about basketball, but it's good for you to branch out like this.

Just trying to keep you levelheaded, man. Rondo could easily be traded, so constant reminder might make the hurt easier to handle.

we've been told Rondo will be traded for the past 5 seasons. I am not against trading him if we get a good package back, but Ben McLemore and filler is not a good return for Rondo. The only guys Rondo has been offered for is CP3 and Steph Curry, Danny is not dumb. I will believe it when I see it .

More than just that those. He was also reportedly offered, along with Ray Allen, for Rip, Prince, and Stuckey. Now that's one that I'm glad didn't go through.

There was also the Westbrook rumor.

  "rumor" being the key term in this discussion.

It was Woj who reported it. See, that's the denial I was referring to.

  Go back and re-read your own post. You called it a rumor, I just agreed with you.

  Hilarious.

Timmy, I'm just trying to help you out. I don't want to see you get hurt if your hero is traded.

   Ok. Have fun with your delusions.

[csfansince60s]

Methinks thou dost protest too much, Celtics.

[playdream]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=njg42k6


Rondo, Sullinger, Young, picks, filler

For

Kyrie, Thompson, Filler



Get younger by swapping Rondo for Kyrie, but he is certainly a shoot first PG, so how would that work with Bradley, Smart, and Green?

In this case you are trading Sully for Kyrie and Rondo is the filler

[Beat LA]

Danny's word means nothing to me.

[reelbig4]

I like Rondo, but could it be posible that the celtics trade him for Kyrie Irving, I think it will be better for both teams, celtics get their go to guy and Cleveland get a better point guard to matchup with James and Love.

[rondohondo]

I like Rondo, but could it be posible that the celtics trade him for Kyrie Irving, I think it will be better for both teams, celtics get their go to guy and Cleveland get a better point guard to matchup with James and Love.

that's about the only trade i would do from the rumors we have heard . Irving and Smart would be a great back court duo .

[chambers]

I hope they don't trade him, but if you want to get as high of a price as possible for him, then this is a tactic to take.
There are a handful of guys in the NBA that are 'untradeable' other than Lebron, Durant or Anthony Davis- maybe James Harden.
Rondo certainly isn't one of them.

Danny's just trying to send the message that if you're going to call us about Rondo, we aren't picking up unless it's a very good offer at the least.

[Kane3387]

I hope they don't trade him, but if you want to get as high of a price as possible for him, then this is a tactic to take.
There are a handful of guys in the NBA that are 'untradeable' other than Lebron, Durant or Anthony Davis- maybe James Harden.
Rondo certainly isn't one of them.

Danny's just trying to send the message that if you're going to call us about Rondo, we aren't picking up unless it's a very good offer at the least.

Agreed. Danny will never not take offers.

[Celtics4ever]

Danny's just trying to send the message that if you're going to call us about Rondo, we aren't picking up unless it's a very good offer at the least.

Agreed TP

[furball]

The people denying this or not giving it any validity (I'm am really not putting this correctly) seem to be missing something.  This isn't Ainge talking to the press.  Every GM tells the press that all of their players are great and they are all going to die playing for that team.   This is a report from other GMs saying that Ainge has told them Rondo isn't being traded. 

You don't give "GM Speech" to the other teams.  You give that to the press and the fans.  If teams are calling Ainge and he is telling them Rondo is not being traded then there is no reason to do that other than to get guys to stop calling about him because you are not trading him.  The one plausible explanation that has been given so far is that he told certain GMs this because he did not feel they had enough to offer the Celtics and that's where the reports are coming from. 

Does this mean Rondo isn't being traded?  No, someone could make a Godfather offer.  But then they could make a godfather offer for anyone or any of the Celtics picks (or could have at any point while Ainge has been GM).  Will they?  who knows. 

[kozlodoev]

I like Rondo, but could it be posible that the celtics trade him for Kyrie Irving, I think it will be better for both teams, celtics get their go to guy and Cleveland get a better point guard to matchup with James and Love.

that's about the only trade i would do from the rumors we have heard . Irving and Smart would be a great back court duo .

I don't think Irving has ever been a real rumor, more like CB wishful thinking.