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Re: Tank For Towns
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2014, 08:27:47 AM »

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  Last year we had to tank because it was a once in a generation draft full of franchise cornerstones. Forgive me if I don't get overly excited about next year's prospects yet.

I'm glad we got Smart, aren't you?
I'd 100% do it all again if it meant we picked up a player of Smart's caliber.

Yup....me too......this team needs elite talent prospects .....if for nothing else but to trade package to get elite all star players from other clubs.

I don't see us picking worse than 10'th .    Probably best at 5 th or 6 th again.  Unless Rondo is let go , then the super tank is on.

Re: Tank For Towns
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2014, 09:23:40 AM »

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Very unlikely either of the top 2 centers are around when we pick.  But we should be able to get a nice player, draft looks solid through top 10 picks.

Re: Tank For Towns
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2014, 09:31:45 AM »

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Every year, we'll just tank for the 25 percent chance to draft a certain player.

Re: Tank For Towns
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2014, 09:36:50 AM »

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Very unlikely either of the top 2 centers are around when we pick.  But we should be able to get a nice player, draft looks solid through top 10 picks.

There are some bad teams that won't need a center.  I can't imagine the Sixers or Pistons drafting a center.  So that could open up the possibility for us to trade up and we have the picks to make it happen. 
I know it's way way too early to discuss this, but Towns and Okafor were exciting to watch last night.

Re: Tank For Towns
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2014, 09:39:12 AM »

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I doubt we end up tanking, and I don't think we should.

Right now, we are losing while developing, Olynyk and Sullinger. Later in the year we will also give Smart and Young the playing time to develop.

With this current roster (potentially minus veterans like Thornton, and Bass) we probably aren't making the playoffs. I think there is more value in developing what we have and hoping for luck in the lottery, than selling off our assets, benching our good players and improving our lottery odds. Sure the odds are higher for an elite player if we tank but what we would lose in development by tanking would make the increased lottery odds not worth it.

I'm a big Towns fan, but I think there are a lot more players than him that could help us a lot. I would be happy drafting Willie Cauley-Stein, Okafor, or Myles Turner. If we could get Dakari Johnson with our second pick that would be great. Even some of the longer, springier 4's could probably help us (Alexander, Harrell, Walker).

In the end, I don't think we will need to tank because this draft is heavy at our position of need, so we should be able to get someone that helps us.
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Re: Tank For Towns
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2014, 09:48:36 AM »

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I doubt we end up tanking, and I don't think we should.

Right now, we are losing while developing

At least a goldfish with a Lincoln Log on its back goin' across your floor to your sock drawer has a miraculous connotation to it.

Re: Tank For Towns
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2014, 09:56:55 AM »

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I doubt we end up tanking, and I don't think we should.

Right now, we are losing while developing


I think the seal is the one on the right and the sea lion is the one on the left.

The difference between losing while developing and tanking is the difference between what we are doing and what the Sixers are doing. I'd be very angry at what the Sixers are doing if I was a fan of their team.
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Re: Tank For Towns
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2014, 10:13:40 AM »

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Fair enough, but it's all losses and bad basketball in the end.
At least a goldfish with a Lincoln Log on its back goin' across your floor to your sock drawer has a miraculous connotation to it.

Re: Tank For Towns
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2014, 10:31:38 AM »

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I doubt we end up tanking, and I don't think we should.

Right now, we are losing while developing, Olynyk and Sullinger. Later in the year we will also give Smart and Young the playing time to develop.

With this current roster (potentially minus veterans like Thornton, and Bass) we probably aren't making the playoffs. I think there is more value in developing what we have and hoping for luck in the lottery, than selling off our assets, benching our good players and improving our lottery odds. Sure the odds are higher for an elite player if we tank but what we would lose in development by tanking would make the increased lottery odds not worth it.

I'm a big Towns fan, but I think there are a lot more players than him that could help us a lot. I would be happy drafting Willie Cauley-Stein, Okafor, or Myles Turner. If we could get Dakari Johnson with our second pick that would be great. Even some of the longer, springier 4's could probably help us (Alexander, Harrell, Walker).

In the end, I don't think we will need to tank because this draft is heavy at our position of need, so we should be able to get someone that helps us.

I don't want to tank, and I think tanking would be the incorrect method for creating a winning mentality.

That is why I don't respect the 76ers, because they are going for a record of sending out the worst players possible on any tangible roster.

How can you seriously look at any of the 76ers roster, and believe any of them except a token 3 or 4 are even starting caliber on decent teams?

It also really puts patience on the people who pay good hard earned money to support a franchise or organization, who clearly are putting their hopes on unknown/unproven rookies.

As for tanking anyways, I think the max we'll win is 32-34 games, good enough to acquire the 10-13th pick, which is still considered a lottery pick. Depending on the possibility the EC would still be horrendous as last year, (which I doubt as Hornets, Raptors, and Wizards have improved in benches,) we may or may not make the playoffs.

Personally, I don't mind either way. Making the playoffs sets a restored purpose of pride in our young players for overcoming adversity, and will give them the needed experience in that type of tough setting. If we won't exceed expectations, I can rest assure at least knowing the developments of our young players will be utilized correctly, (least I hope so, depending on how CBS does this year.)

Either way, we have a boatload of picks. I can see the Nets trading away Lopez, and even Joe Johnson in a fire sale. They have already voiced the need to cut the roster for salary purposes, but haven't actually gone and said in public in hopes to not seem desperate. If the Nets pick could be lottery bound, I think Ainge will package them to move up, and possibly try to draft Okafor, Towns, or WCS. Someone like the 76ers may feel compelled enough to run with their young bigs, and may desire getting more picks for cost effective youth, since they have a plethora of young bigs with potential.

Even if we can't get them, I like Khem Birch. He looks extremely intelligent when defending, and helping on pick and rolls. Clearly, he won't be as efficient in the NBA, but he seems quick enough to cover enough ground to hedge off defenders. He also has a really good knack of detecting players rate of acceleration/finish around the rim, which might tie into his good timing or ability to read players comfort zones/watching enough film, which ties into my thoughts of him having high BBIQ.

I doubt we end up tanking, and I don't think we should.

Right now, we are losing while developing



Also if I'm correct Seal Lion is on the right, and the seal is on the left. I remember watching a discovery channel episode on Polar bears, and their main diet seems to consist of seals, which have a lot of fur/blubber to keep them warm in the harsh winters.
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Re: Tank For Towns
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2014, 01:36:20 PM »

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The best way to tank is to "go small" in the fourth quarter.

Which is what we are doing.

Re: Tank For Towns
« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2014, 01:40:32 PM »

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Towns should be a PF, not a C.

I think he would be better stretching his range, and focusing on rebound/post moves.
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Re: Tank For Towns
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2014, 02:00:39 PM »

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Lose a couple nail biters against top tier NBA teams and it's time to tank. Good times!

It's tough to tank when you have a shot at going to the ECF! We'll see how the next month shakes out, but right now, I don't see anyone in the East that really scares me. We took down the Bulls but they remain the most scary. We had Cleveland. Indy is no longer a threat. Miami isn't the same. Washington is alright, but beatable. Charlotte, same.

Plenty of solid and above average teams, but there is no superteam in the East. The C's might wind up in the lottery but they'll be in the mix for a playoff spot with the roster they've got right now.

Re: Tank For Towns
« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2014, 02:02:43 PM »

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Lose a couple nail biters against top tier NBA teams and it's time to tank. Good times!

It's tough to tank when you have a shot at going to the ECF! We'll see how the next month shakes out, but right now, I don't see anyone in the East that really scares me. We took down the Bulls but they remain the most scary. We had Cleveland. Indy is no longer a threat. Miami isn't the same. Washington is alright, but beatable. Charlotte, same.

Plenty of solid and above average teams, but there is no superteam in the East. The C's might wind up in the lottery but they'll be in the mix for a playoff spot with the roster they've got right now.

I'm in the same boat as well.

I would prefer to go after the C in the Draft, as it'll give us time to develop the chemistry with our young players, but it might make Rondo disgruntled.

I think Towns/Okafor, and Muniday/Turner are the only impact players that are NBA ready now.

We'll see, I would love for Ainge to move a few picks to pick up Towns.

Intelligent passer, great team help defender, and seems to have an overall feel for the game despite not being as athletic.
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Re: Tank For Towns
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2014, 02:03:50 PM »

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Towns looks special, but I think Cauley-Stein could be the defensive stopper as well, just not as polished offensively.
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Re: Tank For Towns
« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2014, 02:08:04 PM »

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Anybody who thinks that we will still turn it around because we only lost by a couple to good teams:

1.) We beat Miami at this point of the season last year, who were better than anybody we've played this year at that point (if that makes sense grammatically....)

2.) Right now the last team in the playoff hunt in the East is the 5-7 Orlando Magic and we would have to surpass them and 3 other teams to grab the last spot.  Think about that.  We're 4 places behind the last team in the playoffs and that last spot is a team that is 2 games under .500.

Silver lining is that we're now only a couple moves away from being relevant, instead of like 5 or 6