Rondo taking 7 3pointers

[Rondo9]

Nobody even bothered to guard him, there was no pressure, it was like practice.

Nobody ever guards Rondo when he has the ball.  They always go under the screen or otherwise dare him to shoot.

Isn't that guarding the ball?

[JSD]

A couple of those threes were down the stretch and shots he otherwise wouldn't have taken. He did look comfortable taking the shot, and for the most part it looked good. I'm encouraged by it.

[pearljammer10]

How do you guys think?
I think it's a good sign that he is confident and willing to take those shots
Now the screw is taken off, hope he can finally develope a outside shot, that will be huge

I think the Zone defense contributed to him shooting the threes.

If I could give you 1,000 Tommy Points for this I would.

[D.o.s.]

Perhaps we'll see that... Life, uh, finds a way?

[kozlodoev]

Nobody even bothered to guard him, there was no pressure, it was like practice.

Nobody ever guards Rondo when he has the ball.  They always go under the screen or otherwise dare him to shoot.

Isn't that guarding the ball?

Um... what?

[Rondo9]

Nobody even bothered to guard him, there was no pressure, it was like practice.

Nobody ever guards Rondo when he has the ball.  They always go under the screen or otherwise dare him to shoot.

Isn't that guarding the ball?

Um... what?

Sorry, I mean isn't that guarding Rondo.

[Vermont Green]

Nobody even bothered to guard him, there was no pressure, it was like practice.

Nobody ever guards Rondo when he has the ball.  They always go under the screen or otherwise dare him to shoot.

Isn't that guarding the ball?

I guess I don't understand your question.  I consider sagging off Rondo and daring him to shoot the exact opposite of guarding him.  Any average offensive threat will be guarded or defended when they have the ball, not dared to shoot.  A top scorer will often be double teamed or "funneled" to a second defender.

If Rondo starts making the uncontested shots, the defense will have to treat him like an average scorer and actually defend him which will help space the floor for the rest of the team (if nothing else).  If Rondo continued to score even after they tightened up on him, then they would start to selectively double team him.  That would be good not only because of the direct scoring it would mean Rondo is doing but this would also make his passing even more productive as the court would be so much more open for other players.

[BballTim]

Nobody even bothered to guard him, there was no pressure, it was like practice.

Nobody ever guards Rondo when he has the ball.

  It's hard to overstate how far removed from reality this comment is.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

I swear, I haven't seen a thread yet, where there isn't someone being negative. He shot 4-7 from 3 and some people always need to say, "well it doesn't count because of this or that!"

James Harden has been shooting 37% (before last night, haven't looked for an update) but everyone and their mother can't stop saying he's so great. Every excuse works for him and other players but guys like RR have to be great at everything or be considered bad/stink or w/e people float around on a given rant!

[kozlodoev]

I swear, I haven't seen a thread yet, where there isn't someone being negative. He shot 4-7 from 3 and some people always need to say, "well it doesn't count because of this or that!"

James Harden has been shooting 37% (before last night, haven't looked for an update) but everyone and their mother can't stop saying he's so great. Every excuse works for him and other players but guys like RR have to be great at everything or be considered bad/stink or w/e people float around on a given rant!

Yes. That's because Harden is a 44% career shooter, and Rondo is a 29% career three-point shooter.

[Csfan1984]

I don't have any issues with Rondo taking and making open shots at over 43% 2pt fg and 34% 3pt. He had a great first half vs Thunder. Think his second half was pretty bad defensively. It's as if the entire team knew coach was tanking (playing the bad 2 unit way too long) and everyone gave up including Rondo.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

I swear, I haven't seen a thread yet, where there isn't someone being negative. He shot 4-7 from 3 and some people always need to say, "well it doesn't count because of this or that!"

James Harden has been shooting 37% (before last night, haven't looked for an update) but everyone and their mother can't stop saying he's so great. Every excuse works for him and other players but guys like RR have to be great at everything or be considered bad/stink or w/e people float around on a given rant!

Yes. That's because Harden is a 44% career shooter, and Rondo is a 29% career three-point shooter.

Harden is a career 44% 3pt shooter? Wow, he's good (I don't think he does but okay,learned something new). I sure hope he isn't 44%FG overall because that's not good but its solid.



Nevermind, I checked for myself. Harden has never shot 40% from 3 but he is a pretty good 3pt shooter for his career a 37%.

With that said, I can play the game too... even with his HORRIBLE 3pt shooting (yikes), RR's FG % is better than Harden's and I'm talking all seasons! With RR about 48% and JH 44%. That's with RR's terrible rookie season shooting and his 28 or so games of terrible shooting last season.

How did I know someone would puff up James when I mentioned him, well because it's a typical accurance when they aren't Celtics, our guys are terrible and everyone else is GREAT.

[kozlodoev]

I swear, I haven't seen a thread yet, where there isn't someone being negative. He shot 4-7 from 3 and some people always need to say, "well it doesn't count because of this or that!"

James Harden has been shooting 37% (before last night, haven't looked for an update) but everyone and their mother can't stop saying he's so great. Every excuse works for him and other players but guys like RR have to be great at everything or be considered bad/stink or w/e people float around on a given rant!

Yes. That's because Harden is a 44% career shooter, and Rondo is a 29% career three-point shooter.

Harden is a career 44% 3pt shooter? Wow, he's good (I don't think he does but okay,learned something new). I sure hope he isn't 44%FG overall because that's not good but its solid.

You asked why people rant about Rondo's 7 three pointers, and don't particularly worry about Harden's 37% from the field at this point. If you fail to follow my point, try googling "mean reversion".

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

I swear, I haven't seen a thread yet, where there isn't someone being negative. He shot 4-7 from 3 and some people always need to say, "well it doesn't count because of this or that!"

James Harden has been shooting 37% (before last night, haven't looked for an update) but everyone and their mother can't stop saying he's so great. Every excuse works for him and other players but guys like RR have to be great at everything or be considered bad/stink or w/e people float around on a given rant!

Yes. That's because Harden is a 44% career shooter, and Rondo is a 29% career three-point shooter.

Harden is a career 44% 3pt shooter? Wow, he's good (I don't think he does but okay,learned something new). I sure hope he isn't 44%FG overall because that's not good but its solid.

You asked why people rant about Rondo's 7 three pointers, and don't particularly worry about Harden's 37% from the field at this point. If you fail to follow my point, try googling "mean reversion".

I didn't fail to follow you using James' FG% against RR's 3pt shooting when there wasnt even a cause because Harden's 3pt% is alone better than RR and it isn't close. I have no idea why you chose those #s lol.

See, if it was my argument I would use 2 # from the same category but hey, you're obviously smarter than I am, Harden is a great shooter (from 3), happy.


Harden is shooting 30% from 3 if he can shoot that there is no need to hate on RR for making 4/7. That's why my initial comment had nothing to do with whether RR should shoot them as a whole but how he shot on subject (last night)!

I wasn't even comparing them as shooters in the first place. I didn't even put it with RR's shooting,  I made an observation on how Harden gets a pass for everything and how people say he's so great. So, try again. Thank you.

[kozlodoev]

You brought in Harden's shooting, not me. I was addressing the numbers you posted.

The simple point is that Harden will likely shoot considerably better than 37% (or 30% from three, if you prefer) in the long run, and Rondo will make considerably fewer than 4 for every 7 three-pointers he takes. That's why people get worked up about one of these situations, and not the other.