Ainge Decided When Screws Came Out, Rondo Wanted To Play

[saltlover]

Based on this it says Rondo wanted to take it out during the All-Star break. So what happened that made him, or Ainge change his mind? It was undoubtedly related to his play against the Pacers, getting yanked after a horrible turnover and not getting back in until 3 minutes to go in the 4th.

Either Rondo was disgusted with himself and is using the screw getting removed/soreness as his excuse for his sloppy play, or Ainge/Stevens is disgusted with his sloppy play and is hoping this is the reason.

Either way, the screw is getting removed far ahead of schedule, and it was determined right after the Pacers game, a game that Phil Pressy, our 3rd string PG, won for us.  To try to claim the Pacers game is unrelated to this decision just means you aren't looking deep enough, or your tin foil hat isn't on tight enough.

The article says that the decision was made at halftime, so this would be evidence that it was not related to his second-half play against the Pacers, unless you are claiming that Rondo is a liar.

Yes, exactly. If you read my post I clearly state that I don't believe Rondo or Ainge (at least, I dont believe EVERYTHING) when they speak to the media, because they are only saying things to keep the fans on their side.

Did you once stop and ask yourself "OK... Why does Rondo feel like he NEEDS to tell us that the decision was made during halftime of the Pacers game?" 

Hmmmm, I can't possibly think of 1 reason why Rondo would feel like he would have to point that out? Oh, it just dawned on me. All of the evens that actually lead to the decision happened in the 2nd half of the Pacers game.

  The x-rays and the discussions between Ainge and Rondo about the discomfort he was experiencing happened in the second half of the game? Was it during a time out, or was Rondo benched for the check-up?

Or the x-rays were taken earlier and based on trainer's reports of in-game pain/inflammation as well as in-game observation of performance it was decided that waiting three months didn't make sense.

[fairweatherfan]

Based on this it says Rondo wanted to take it out during the All-Star break. So what happened that made him, or Ainge change his mind? It was undoubtedly related to his play against the Pacers, getting yanked after a horrible turnover and not getting back in until 3 minutes to go in the 4th.

Either Rondo was disgusted with himself and is using the screw getting removed/soreness as his excuse for his sloppy play, or Ainge/Stevens is disgusted with his sloppy play and is hoping this is the reason.

Either way, the screw is getting removed far ahead of schedule, and it was determined right after the Pacers game, a game that Phil Pressy, our 3rd string PG, won for us.  To try to claim the Pacers game is unrelated to this decision just means you aren't looking deep enough, or your tin foil hat isn't on tight enough.

The article says that the decision was made at halftime, so this would be evidence that it was not related to his second-half play against the Pacers, unless you are claiming that Rondo is a liar.

Yes, exactly. If you read my post I clearly state that I don't believe Rondo or Ainge (at least, I dont believe EVERYTHING) when they speak to the media, because they are only saying things to keep the fans on their side.

Did you once stop and ask yourself "OK... Why does Rondo feel like he NEEDS to tell us that the decision was made during halftime of the Pacers game?" 

Hmmmm, I can't possibly think of 1 reason why Rondo would feel like he would have to point that out? Oh, it just dawned on me. All of the evens that actually lead to the decision happened in the 2nd half of the Pacers game.

  The x-rays and the discussions between Ainge and Rondo about the discomfort he was experiencing happened in the second half of the game? Was it during a time out, or was Rondo benched for the check-up?

No, you see, they actually decided to pull them at the end of the Pacers game just because Rondo was mad about not playing, but then, despite explicit insubordination by the team captain and upcoming free agent, Rondo, Ainge, Stevens, and presumably the team doctors all decided to lie about it and pretend they decided it at halftime because of "soreness" and "X-ray evidence" or some other highly unlikely mumbo-jumbo.  I guess we're supposed to believe this "soreness" was why Rondo didn't play as much too lol.

It's a pretty brilliant plan, but painfully obvious for those with the keen insight to see it.  I think a lot of people are just jealous that they aren't able to see past the lies with such clarity.

[Eddie20]

At least this dispels the thought that Rondo made this decision himself and decided not to share it with Stevens (like some believed).

Or that Rondo did this as a protest because he spent a chunk of the 4th quarter on the bench against Indiana. Yes, that was an actual theory posted.

Yeah I seen that theory...lol. When it comes to Rondo, around here, nothing is ever simple. There's always some grand reason or theory..lol.

Yes, that was my theory that I posted as soon as I heard about the screw getting removed.  Honestly, this only reaffirms my belief.

Based on this it says Rondo wanted to take it out during the All-Star break. So what happened that made him, or Ainge change his mind? It was undoubtedly related to his play against the Pacers, getting yanked after a horrible turnover and not getting back in until 3 minutes to go in the 4th.

Either Rondo was disgusted with himself and is using the screw getting removed/soreness as his excuse for his sloppy play, or Ainge/Stevens is disgusted with his sloppy play and is hoping this is the reason.

Either way, the screw is getting removed far ahead of schedule, and it was determined right after the Pacers game, a game that Phil Pressy, our 3rd string PG, won for us.  To try to claim the Pacers game is unrelated to this decision just means you aren't looking deep enough, or your tin foil hat isn't on tight enough.

What? How is the screw being removed ahead of schedule? The procedure is done as soon as x-rays show the fracture has healed. Once it has there is no reason not to remove it. The pin is only there to assist the healing process.

[RJ87]

Based on this it says Rondo wanted to take it out during the All-Star break. So what happened that made him, or Ainge change his mind? It was undoubtedly related to his play against the Pacers, getting yanked after a horrible turnover and not getting back in until 3 minutes to go in the 4th.

Either Rondo was disgusted with himself and is using the screw getting removed/soreness as his excuse for his sloppy play, or Ainge/Stevens is disgusted with his sloppy play and is hoping this is the reason.

Either way, the screw is getting removed far ahead of schedule, and it was determined right after the Pacers game, a game that Phil Pressy, our 3rd string PG, won for us.  To try to claim the Pacers game is unrelated to this decision just means you aren't looking deep enough, or your tin foil hat isn't on tight enough.

The article says that the decision was made at halftime, so this would be evidence that it was not related to his second-half play against the Pacers, unless you are claiming that Rondo is a liar.

Yes, exactly. If you read my post I clearly state that I don't believe Rondo or Ainge (at least, I dont believe EVERYTHING) when they speak to the media, because they are only saying things to keep the fans on their side.

Did you once stop and ask yourself "OK... Why does Rondo feel like he NEEDS to tell us that the decision was made during halftime of the Pacers game?" 

Hmmmm, I can't possibly think of 1 reason why Rondo would feel like he would have to point that out? Oh, it just dawned on me. All of the evens that actually lead to the decision happened in the 2nd half of the Pacers game.

Because he was asked about it. If he doesn't respond to that question, then it becomes "Rondo's being uncooperative with the media. This is why he's not a good leader." 

[guava_wrench]

At least this dispels the thought that Rondo made this decision himself and decided not to share it with Stevens (like some believed).

Or that Rondo did this as a protest because he spent a chunk of the 4th quarter on the bench against Indiana. Yes, that was an actual theory posted.

Yeah I seen that theory...lol. When it comes to Rondo, around here, nothing is ever simple. There's always some grand reason or theory..lol.

Yes, that was my theory that I posted as soon as I heard about the screw getting removed.  Honestly, this only reaffirms my belief.

Based on this it says Rondo wanted to take it out during the All-Star break. So what happened that made him, or Ainge change his mind? It was undoubtedly related to his play against the Pacers, getting yanked after a horrible turnover and not getting back in until 3 minutes to go in the 4th.

Either Rondo was disgusted with himself and is using the screw getting removed/soreness as his excuse for his sloppy play, or Ainge/Stevens is disgusted with his sloppy play and is hoping this is the reason.

Either way, the screw is getting removed far ahead of schedule, and it was determined right after the Pacers game, a game that Phil Pressy, our 3rd string PG, won for us.  To try to claim the Pacers game is unrelated to this decision just means you aren't looking deep enough, or your tin foil hat isn't on tight enough.

Yeah, just stick with that theory  You might didn't read the part where he said the screws were irritating his hand and he kept getting scans on them daily or how the doctor approached him BEFORE the game to ask about his hand. I guess they knew that Pressey was going to play and Smart was going to injure himself. But I guess your theory makes soooo much sense. I might need to tighten the tin foil,but may want to stop eating it. It's messing with your rationale.

I actually just chose not to believe everything the news paper/media/star athlete's tell the fans.

 It's easy to see the screw getting removed is based on his play vs the Pacers. And I admit its tin foil hat related because all I can do is guess at what the truth is since I don't just immediately believe everything Rondo or Ainge tells the media since 99% of what they are saying is aimed at keeping the fans on their side, and when you have that kind of bias then it's best to question it.

I can see for some people though, they'd rather not question what they are told, it's probably easier that way for them.

It makes sense to be skeptical of PR. The problem is taking your imagination too seriously. We should use critical thought on our own ideas too.

[csfansince60s]

According to Chris Forsberg:

Rondo said that, at halftime of Friday's win over the Indiana Pacers, team physician Brian McKeon and president of basketball operations Danny Ainge decided Rondo should undergo the procedure to remove them Saturday, given that Boston had three days off coming up after Saturday's game in Chicago.

Rondo, who missed considerable time in recent seasons while rehabbing from ACL surgery, lobbied to play Saturday, but lost that battle.

"I just wanted to go, travel with my team and play in Chicago," he said. Later he added: "I thought we'd have the day off Sunday anyway, and I thought I could do it Sunday. But they make those decisions."

TP for the OP.

I especially like the possessive "my" as opposed to the "the", which he could have said. Small thing I know, but it implies buy-in and investment to me. Good news if you are a Rondo fan.

[Vermont Green]

your tin foil hat isn't on tight enough.

What is with all of the tin foil hat comments?  I am not trying to single out incoherent as he is not nearly the only one but is this supposed to be funny?  It is certainly not original anymore.  My first thought when I see the comment is "wow, how condescending".

[erisred]

I'd propose the Popovich theory.  Say you have guys that need rest, either due to age or because there's a screw in their hand.  Which games do you choose?  You can choose games against light opposition -- you might win anyways. OR, you can choose the Rockets/Bulls on the road.  If you win, great.   If you lose, no harm done.  Your best players were resting and it was going to be a tough game even if they were healthy.  You deny the opposition any sort of mental edge when the games really matter.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Of course, Rondo wanted to play on Saturday and have the screw taken out on Sunday...he wants to play every game. Why not give him an extra day to recover, have him miss the harder road game and be ready for the easier home game? Hey, the C's beat the Bulls! That wasn't really expected by anybody here...was it? Doing it without Rondo, and doing it by holding the lead late was a big win for the young C's, bigger than if Rondo had played.  The C's need to be consistent tonight and beat the Thunder!

[KGs Knee]

your tin foil hat isn't on tight enough.

What is with all of the tin foil hat comments?  I am not trying to single out incoherent as he is not nearly the only one but is this supposed to be funny?  It is certainly not original anymore.  My first thought when I see the comment is "wow, how condescending".

The ironic part here is incoherent was using it as a sort of self-deprecating humor (I think).

[incoherent]

your tin foil hat isn't on tight enough.

What is with all of the tin foil hat comments?  I am not trying to single out incoherent as he is not nearly the only one but is this supposed to be funny?  It is certainly not original anymore.  My first thought when I see the comment is "wow, how condescending".

The ironic part here is incoherent was using it as a sort of self-deprecating humor (I think).

You are right. I was trying to convey that even I realize my theory is just that.  You normally only hear what people want you to hear, you have to look into the motives to see what's really going on most the time.

Also, in no way am I Rondo hater. Never said anything bad about him, and I do not at all think lying to the media is bad.

[aingeforthree]

Whether it was the Doctor or Ainge, whomever made the call was right.  Now he's had some great rest and you came out with a W in Chicago.  You killed 2 birds with one stone.

Great call.

[Vermont Green]

your tin foil hat isn't on tight enough.

What is with all of the tin foil hat comments?  I am not trying to single out incoherent as he is not nearly the only one but is this supposed to be funny?  It is certainly not original anymore.  My first thought when I see the comment is "wow, how condescending".

The ironic part here is incoherent was using it as a sort of self-deprecating humor (I think).

You are right. I was trying to convey that even I realize my theory is just that.  You normally only hear what people want you to hear, you have to look into the motives to see what's really going on most the time.

Also, in no way am I Rondo hater. Never said anything bad about him, and I do not at all think lying to the media is bad.

Sounds like I may have picked a bad example to call out, my bad.

[D.o.s.]

In lieu of the Tin Foil Hat, may I present some alternatives:







I don't care if he's not the commish anymore.

[fairweatherfan]

I don't care if he's not the commish anymore.

Sucker.  That's just what he wants you to think.

[D.o.s.]

If you take the first letter of the first sentence in each paragraph in the original draft of the new CBA, it clearly spells out 'David Stern is still the éminence grise'