How long before James Young replaces Bradley?

[jpotter33]

Bradley had an off night shooting, and Harden is a heck of a player.  I can't believe I am reading this headline this morning. Panic.

Harden is a heck of a player. but we were also told AB is a great defender. haven't seen that in 2 seasons now from Bradley.

seems to me Harden treated Bradley like any other player defending him.

and Bradley having an "off shooting" night happens more often than he has on shooting nights because he takes bad shots. he's useless fool's gold. his bad shot taking gets glossed over because he hits 'em some times.

5-14 shooting night for Harden, I'll take it. Too many free-throws though, but that's more of a ref thing than anything.

Dude has been getting to the line pretty much 10+ per game for the last couple of years, nothing out of the norm with Harden there.

ahh, perfect example of the stats not telling the whole story.

It tells the story quite well actually. Bradley defended him quite well. Harden hit a couple of good, well defended shots on him, got excessive help from the refs to get to the line, missed a lot of shots throughout the game.

What did it miss?

the 5-14 shooting was because either AB fouled him so he missed the shot or he let Harden go by him and another player fouled him.

blaming the refs is a weak excuse imo. esp. when AB showed he couldn't stay with him.

Wow, someone doesn't know their basketball rules......

so, enlighten me genius.

If you are fouled and miss, it doesn't count as a field goal attempt. If you are saying that he missed because he was fouled but it wasn't called, I would point out the irony of you turning around and saying "blaming the refs is a weak excuse".

Exactly, this Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. doesn't know what he's talking about.

[Mazingerz]

Bradley has turned into a gunner (not for his own good)

[Tr1boy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QrCHeZw-cM

[Tr1boy]

AB is not a starter on a rebuilding team. He is a starter for an offensive minded team, that can use his defense.

AB can't create his own shot and his offense is pretty predictable (not even a deadly 3 pt shooter). If his shot is not working, he is not going to score for you.

I like for AB to be coming off the bench.  IF he catches fire shooting, then leave him on.

[chambers]

all these rotation decisions are being based upon a 3-3 effort by young, in his first nba game ever? really?

geez, even by the standards here at CB this is one boatload of over reaction.

keep in mind the tone and expectations of many posters after the celtics won game 1 against brooklyn. the raves about the celtics offense, playoff bound, etc. all gone after game 2. what will game 3 bring?

one good game does not a season make, nor does one putrid game. rondo truly was poor last night in his passing and shooting and scoring and +/-. do i hear cries to replace him? or do we simply rack it up as a down game and place it within a larger history, and move on knowing that he will improve over this particular performance?

bradley has proven he is a starter in the nba and he knows the celtics plays already. stevens will keep him over young for a while yet.

let's calm down a tad here.

When I read Hwang's posts I'm reminded that there are still plenty of logical people on Celticsblog.

TP

[chambers]

Young is a long way from starting- his defense is a work in progress.
Danny said he was a small forward, not a shooting guard too- so there's that.

I actually think Bradley will be traded if Rondo stays. So if Rondo is here, then I can see Young starting with Smart and Rondo, that is, if Young develops into a starting caliber player).

Young is a long way down the food chain of a bottom 10 NBA team- he's got a long way to go before he threatens Avery Bradley's (or anyone's) starting role.

[incoherent]

Young will get more minutes when Thornton and Turner get traded for picks.  I would keep turner til next year actually

[kraidstar]

Bradley had an off night shooting, and Harden is a heck of a player.  I can't believe I am reading this headline this morning. Panic.

Harden is a heck of a player. but we were also told AB is a great defender. haven't seen that in 2 seasons now from Bradley.

seems to me Harden treated Bradley like any other player defending him.

and Bradley having an "off shooting" night happens more often than he has on shooting nights because he takes bad shots. he's useless fool's gold. his bad shot taking gets glossed over because he hits 'em some times.

5-14 shooting night for Harden, I'll take it. Too many free-throws though, but that's more of a ref thing than anything.

Dude has been getting to the line pretty much 10+ per game for the last couple of years, nothing out of the norm with Harden there.

ahh, perfect example of the stats not telling the whole story.

It tells the story quite well actually. Bradley defended him quite well. Harden hit a couple of good, well defended shots on him, got excessive help from the refs to get to the line, missed a lot of shots throughout the game.

What did it miss?

you didn't miss anything.
bradley didn't play particularly well, but we wouldn't be having this conversation at all if the c's hadn't gone 1-25 from 3pt, and been out-shot by 22 free throws.
there are a lot of scapegoats erected on this blog, which is too bad, considering that this is a young team with lots of potential.

[kraidstar]

i'd guess jeff green and thornton are a lot more likely to be traded than bradley. young would likely get more minutes in that scenario.

[chambers]

AB is not a starter on a rebuilding team. He is a starter for an offensive minded team, that can use his defense.

AB can't create his own shot and his offense is pretty predictable (not even a deadly 3 pt shooter). If his shot is not working, he is not going to score for you.

I like for AB to be coming off the bench.  IF he catches fire shooting, then leave him on.

That's a really good explanation about utilizing his strengths vs weaknesses and I agree he's basically gotta try and play like Danny Green from the Spurs- with less threes and more defense- maybe even more like Bruce Bowen. Stick to what he's good at. He is still very young though so they are desperately hoping he'll take it to another level with his shooting to make his trade value as high as possible.
So many guards in this rotation and someone has to go other than just Thornton.

They'll start him now and hope that his contract looks like a bargain after he has another 40% three point shooting year and maybe makes all defensive first team.
He'd probably be a good fit in LA with the Clippers instead of JJ Reddick if his shooting stays around 40%.

Would be nice if we could dump Green, Thornton and Bass before season's end.

[Chris22]

AB is not a starter on a rebuilding team. He is a starter for an offensive minded team, that can use his defense.

AB can't create his own shot and his offense is pretty predictable (not even a deadly 3 pt shooter). If his shot is not working, he is not going to score for you.

I like for AB to be coming off the bench.  IF he catches fire shooting, then leave him on.

That's a really good explanation about utilizing his strengths vs weaknesses and I agree he's basically gotta try and play like Danny Green from the Spurs- with less threes and more defense- maybe even more like Bruce Bowen. Stick to what he's good at. He is still very young though so they are desperately hoping he'll take it to another level with his shooting.

They'll start him now and hope that his contract looks like a bargain after he has another 40% three point shooting year and maybe makes all defensive first team.
He'd probably be a good fit in LA with the Clippers instead of JJ Reddick if his shooting stays around 40%.

Bradley is not that good a defender. He is too small to play the two and gets overpowered by bigger players.

[chambers]

AB is not a starter on a rebuilding team. He is a starter for an offensive minded team, that can use his defense.

AB can't create his own shot and his offense is pretty predictable (not even a deadly 3 pt shooter). If his shot is not working, he is not going to score for you.

I like for AB to be coming off the bench.  IF he catches fire shooting, then leave him on.

That's a really good explanation about utilizing his strengths vs weaknesses and I agree he's basically gotta try and play like Danny Green from the Spurs- with less threes and more defense- maybe even more like Bruce Bowen. Stick to what he's good at. He is still very young though so they are desperately hoping he'll take it to another level with his shooting.

They'll start him now and hope that his contract looks like a bargain after he has another 40% three point shooting year and maybe makes all defensive first team.
He'd probably be a good fit in LA with the Clippers instead of JJ Reddick if his shooting stays around 40%.

Bradley is not that good a defender. He is too small to play the two and gets overpowered by bigger players.

Well all the coaches in the NBA selected him on the all defensive second team in 2013 so he's doing something right....

[GreenWarrior]

Bradley had an off night shooting, and Harden is a heck of a player.  I can't believe I am reading this headline this morning. Panic.

Harden is a heck of a player. but we were also told AB is a great defender. haven't seen that in 2 seasons now from Bradley.

seems to me Harden treated Bradley like any other player defending him.

and Bradley having an "off shooting" night happens more often than he has on shooting nights because he takes bad shots. he's useless fool's gold. his bad shot taking gets glossed over because he hits 'em some times.

5-14 shooting night for Harden, I'll take it. Too many free-throws though, but that's more of a ref thing than anything.

Dude has been getting to the line pretty much 10+ per game for the last couple of years, nothing out of the norm with Harden there.

ahh, perfect example of the stats not telling the whole story.

It tells the story quite well actually. Bradley defended him quite well. Harden hit a couple of good, well defended shots on him, got excessive help from the refs to get to the line, missed a lot of shots throughout the game.

What did it miss?

the 5-14 shooting was because either AB fouled him so he missed the shot or he let Harden go by him and another player fouled him.

blaming the refs is a weak excuse imo. esp. when AB showed he couldn't stay with him.

Wow, someone doesn't know their basketball rules......

so, enlighten me genius.

If you are fouled and miss, it doesn't count as a field goal attempt. If you are saying that he missed because he was fouled but it wasn't called, I would point out the irony of you turning around and saying "blaming the refs is a weak excuse".

Exactly, this **** doesn't know what he's talking about.

ha! I apologize. all these yrs. I was under the impression that if you're fouled while shooting it still counts as an attempt.

which imo tells you how screwed up the NBA's rules are because i'm sure it counts if someone is fouled while shooting and they score the basket. 

but since I've been here I think I've made it known that I could care less about stats and I just pretty much proved that.

[slamtheking]

I say after the All Star break.

2 more years-->Young's 3rd year if then.  more likely Young becomes are starting SF at that point once Green and Turner's contracts are up.

[Endless Paradise]

Bradley had an off night shooting, and Harden is a heck of a player.  I can't believe I am reading this headline this morning. Panic.

Harden is a heck of a player. but we were also told AB is a great defender. haven't seen that in 2 seasons now from Bradley.

seems to me Harden treated Bradley like any other player defending him.

and Bradley having an "off shooting" night happens more often than he has on shooting nights because he takes bad shots. he's useless fool's gold. his bad shot taking gets glossed over because he hits 'em some times.

5-14 shooting night for Harden, I'll take it. Too many free-throws though, but that's more of a ref thing than anything.

Dude has been getting to the line pretty much 10+ per game for the last couple of years, nothing out of the norm with Harden there.

ahh, perfect example of the stats not telling the whole story.

It tells the story quite well actually. Bradley defended him quite well. Harden hit a couple of good, well defended shots on him, got excessive help from the refs to get to the line, missed a lot of shots throughout the game.

What did it miss?

the 5-14 shooting was because either AB fouled him so he missed the shot or he let Harden go by him and another player fouled him.

blaming the refs is a weak excuse imo. esp. when AB showed he couldn't stay with him.

Wow, someone doesn't know their basketball rules......

so, enlighten me genius.

If you are fouled and miss, it doesn't count as a field goal attempt. If you are saying that he missed because he was fouled but it wasn't called, I would point out the irony of you turning around and saying "blaming the refs is a weak excuse".

Exactly, this **** doesn't know what he's talking about.

ha! I apologize. all these yrs. I was under the impression that if you're fouled while shooting it still counts as an attempt.

which imo tells you how screwed up the NBA's rules are because i'm sure it counts if someone is fouled while shooting and they score the basket. 

but since I've been here I think I've made it known that I could care less about stats and I just pretty much proved that.

I don't think it's screwed up.  If you're fouled while attempting a shot, why should your subsequent miss count against you?  You were intentionally prevented from making the shot by someone else through illegal contact.  If you make it, however, it obviously needs to be counted as a made field goal.  Seems perfectly logical to me.