How long before James Young replaces Bradley?

[nickagneta]

all these rotation decisions are being based upon a 3-3 effort by young, in his first nba game ever? really?

geez, even by the standards here at CB this is one boatload of over reaction.

keep in mind the tone and expectations of many posters after the celtics won game 1 against brooklyn. the raves about the celtics offense, playoff bound, etc. all gone after game 2. what will game 3 bring?

one good game does not a season make, nor does one putrid game. rondo truly was poor last night in his passing and shooting and scoring and +/-. do i hear cries to replace him? or do we simply rack it up as a down game and place it within a larger history, and move on knowing that he will improve over this particular performance?

bradley has proven he is a starter in the nba and he knows the celtics plays already. stevens will keep him over young for a while yet.

let's calm down a tad here.

Logical, intelligent posts have no place in this thread. TP for some sanity

[Snakehead]

Will Bradley be blamed everytime a SG scores a lot of points?

Harden is going to score a lot of points this year.  He will be torching a lot of people.

At least he shot 5 for 14 from the field but people seem to ignore that.......

I do think the refs were a little much but I think Harden is a master of making them make calls.  He is really good at drawing contact and goes out of his way to do so.  I think he's just very hard to guard.  He will get to the line and get his points.

I don't think Avery did a good job but it's hard to guard some of these players these days.  It's rare to "lock them down" as some people want to see.  A player who can actually do that, like Tony Allen, is rare.  And he doesn't bat a great average where you won't expect him to get scored on.  Avery has had good games against guys like Harden or Westbrook but he can't always shut them down.  I just don't think it's possible especially with FT shooting in play.

Containing top level offensive players requires more than one player.  Harden is a player that can pretty much beat any player one on one.

[Chris22]

Bradley was just hosed good .  He is too short to cover the 6 5" players.

I think Young is already better than Bradley.

What was it that sold you on Young over Bradley? That runner he hit and got fouled on? The garbage time lay ups? Shooting 32% from the field in preseason? Going 2 for 9 from beyond the arc? His up and down freshman season? His you tube highlights? I'm curious.

His shot, his ability to finish, his defense, and his size.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYKw3F_PxnI

[Neurotic Guy]

We know that there are Cbloggers who have dislike for specific players.  It's not news to any of us that some don't like Rondo's game, some don't like AB, Jeff Green, KO.    Something else we all know: players shouldn't be judged by a bad game or a bad play.  Game threads, in my opinion, are brought down by a few posters who feel compelled to comment on every poor play made by the target of their hatred --asserting proof that the player sucks with each missed basket or defensive lapse.   

Everyone has right to their opinion and it's interesting to hear thoughtful critical analysis of players. This thread makes it sound inevitable after 2 games that a raw 19yo rookie will overtake  a guy who scored 15ppg and shot nearly 40% from 3 last season (and who is still shy 24 years old).  The assertion comes without viable analysis of either player's game.  Not questioning anyone's right to post an opinon, just wish opinions were well articulated when an assertion like the one in this thread is made.

[Smitty77]

My main concern with Bradley playing starter minutes is that he simple bring NOTHING to the table offensively IF he is NOT hitting his outside shot.  He rarely EVER has an assist!!!!  He averaged more turnovers than assists last year!!!!  He rarely finishes a lay up!!!!  He also averages only 2.3 rebounds for his career.

AND his defense simply is NOT what it was 1.5 years ago when it was stellar of course.

I like Avery, but it might be nice for him to have some competition!!!

Smitty77

[86MaxwellSmart]

Will Bradley be blamed everytime a SG scores a lot of points?

Harden is going to score a lot of points this year.  He will be torching a lot of people.

At least he shot 5 for 14 from the field but people seem to ignore that.......

I do think the refs were a little much but I think Harden is a master of making them make calls.  He is really good at drawing contact and goes out of his way to do so.  I think he's just very hard to guard.  He will get to the line and get his points.

I don't think Avery did a good job but it's hard to guard some of these players these days.  It's rare to "lock them down" as some people want to see.  A player who can actually do that, like Tony Allen, is rare.  And he doesn't bat a great average where you won't expect him to get scored on.  Avery has had good games against guys like Harden or Westbrook but he can't always shut them down.  I just don't think it's possible especially with FT shooting in play.

Containing top level offensive players requires more than one player.  Harden is a player that can pretty much beat any player one on one.

of all the guys trying to guard Harden last night--it was Evan Turner that did the best job---he stayed in front of him on every move that Harden attempted.

[hwangjini_1]

Will Bradley be blamed everytime a SG scores a lot of points?

Harden is going to score a lot of points this year.  He will be torching a lot of people.

those times will be bradley's fault as well. 

[Who]

I don't think it is much about Bradley playing badly as much as it is some fans are very high on James Young's talent.

Size, athleticism, shooting stroke, scorer's mentality, should be able to defend and rebound his position. Highly rated recruit. Big game in Championship game in college. A good number of fans thought Boston got a steal when Ainge got Young at #17. Some think he has All-Star potential.

I think for most it is far more about their belief in how talented James Young is than trying to run down Avery Bradley / criticizing him for bad game.

[mr. dee]

Bradley was just hosed good .  He is too short to cover the 6 5" players.

I think Young is already better than Bradley.

What was it that sold you on Young over Bradley? That runner he hit and got fouled on? The garbage time lay ups? Shooting 32% from the field in preseason? Going 2 for 9 from beyond the arc? His up and down freshman season? His you tube highlights? I'm curious.

His shot, his ability to finish, his defense, and his size.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYKw3F_PxnI

 

[GreenWarrior]

Bradley had an off night shooting, and Harden is a heck of a player.  I can't believe I am reading this headline this morning. Panic.

Harden is a heck of a player. but we were also told AB is a great defender. haven't seen that in 2 seasons now from Bradley.

seems to me Harden treated Bradley like any other player defending him.

and Bradley having an "off shooting" night happens more often than he has on shooting nights because he takes bad shots. he's useless fool's gold. his bad shot taking gets glossed over because he hits 'em some times.

5-14 shooting night for Harden, I'll take it. Too many free-throws though, but that's more of a ref thing than anything.

Dude has been getting to the line pretty much 10+ per game for the last couple of years, nothing out of the norm with Harden there.

ahh, perfect example of the stats not telling the whole story.

It tells the story quite well actually. Bradley defended him quite well. Harden hit a couple of good, well defended shots on him, got excessive help from the refs to get to the line, missed a lot of shots throughout the game.

What did it miss?

the 5-14 shooting was because either AB fouled him so he missed the shot or he let Harden go by him and another player fouled him.

blaming the refs is a weak excuse imo. esp. when AB showed he couldn't stay with him.

Wow, someone doesn't know their basketball rules......

so, enlighten me genius.

[Nerf DPOY]

Bradley had an off night shooting, and Harden is a heck of a player.  I can't believe I am reading this headline this morning. Panic.

Harden is a heck of a player. but we were also told AB is a great defender. haven't seen that in 2 seasons now from Bradley.

seems to me Harden treated Bradley like any other player defending him.

and Bradley having an "off shooting" night happens more often than he has on shooting nights because he takes bad shots. he's useless fool's gold. his bad shot taking gets glossed over because he hits 'em some times.

5-14 shooting night for Harden, I'll take it. Too many free-throws though, but that's more of a ref thing than anything.

Dude has been getting to the line pretty much 10+ per game for the last couple of years, nothing out of the norm with Harden there.

ahh, perfect example of the stats not telling the whole story.

It tells the story quite well actually. Bradley defended him quite well. Harden hit a couple of good, well defended shots on him, got excessive help from the refs to get to the line, missed a lot of shots throughout the game.

What did it miss?

the 5-14 shooting was because either AB fouled him so he missed the shot or he let Harden go by him and another player fouled him.

blaming the refs is a weak excuse imo. esp. when AB showed he couldn't stay with him.

Wow, someone doesn't know their basketball rules......

so, enlighten me genius.

If you are fouled and miss, it doesn't count as a field goal attempt. If you are saying that he missed because he was fouled but it wasn't called, I would point out the irony of you turning around and saying "blaming the refs is a weak excuse".

[Jesus Shuttlesworth #20]

How long before this question matters? I guessing until infinity and beyond.

[greece66]

How long before this question matters? I guessing until infinity and beyond.

Jesus is right. As always.

[BudweiserCeltic]

I don't think it is much about Bradley playing badly as much as it is some fans are very high on James Young's talent.

Size, athleticism, shooting stroke, scorer's mentality, should be able to defend and rebound his position. Highly rated recruit. Big game in Championship game in college. A good number of fans thought Boston got a steal when Ainge got Young at #17. Some think he has All-Star potential.

I think for most it is far more about their belief in how talented James Young is than trying to run down Avery Bradley / criticizing him for bad game.

I'm guessing you aren't very aware of the OP's post history  And most others that jumped on this thread for that matter.

So yeah, it's almost all about Avery Bradley and their dislike of him, that Young is a promising prospect is just bonus + legitimizes their dislike of Bradley.

[Monkhouse]

I say after the All Star break.

Good joke.