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Hibbert anyone?
« on: August 11, 2014, 03:14:38 PM »

Offline WeMadeIt17

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Read an article over on Celticslife and the writer suggested that maybe the reason that Turner hasn't signed yet perhaps a sign the a sign and trade might be possible. Now its pure speculation but it's been a long summer so why not! Would you guys do something like a Green,Bogans,KO and some picks for Turner,Hibbert,and Copeland?

Would be a decent return and would probably bring us to about a 3-6th seed in the east considering no team in our division improved much after last season.  I'd be ok with it. I know Hibbert slept through last season but something was going on with him in the locker room and don't think he gets along to much with Vogel.

Well anyways just seeing what people would think of something like that.

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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2014, 03:17:10 PM »

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Would have a pretty decent lineup as well.

Rondo/Smart/Pressey
AB/Smart/Young
Turner/Wallace/Copeland
Sully/Bass
Hibbert/Zeller/Fav if Fav is still apart of this team.

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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2014, 03:27:07 PM »

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If we got Hibbert I would be shocked and very satisfied. Hibbert is a great player, boston would be a great place for him to get back to his all-star form.

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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2014, 03:31:21 PM »

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sign me up for Hibbert. But I'd be inclined to keep Green because of his 3pt shooting. You're gonna need guys who can hit 3's in the lineup. If you can build a package around KO/Young/1st + Bass/Bogans as filler to make the money work, Indy could be interested.

For Bos:
Rondo/AB/Green/Sully/Hibbert as a starting unit is pretty solid. Defensively, opposing teams wouldn't score much against that unit. Would have to hope Smart (who I think will eventually supplant AB in the starting lineup) and Turner can provide scoring punch off the bench though.

For Indy:
I'd assume a.) they'd be looking towards 2015 b.) that they'd be trading David West at some point and would acquire additional assets to round out their lineup.
Hill/Young/George/Olynyk/Center prospect from 2015 draft class. Definitely not what they've been used to, but Oly and Young's 3pt shooting could be excellent fits next to PG moving forward and they're cost controlled which would likely appeal to Indy's cheap side.
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2014, 03:53:51 PM »

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As long as we buy low, I am a fan.

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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2014, 03:55:35 PM »

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As long as we buy low, I am a fan.

Legit size still comes at a premium I would think.
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2014, 03:56:37 PM »

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 No way

monroe is  a better center and he is a FA right now.
15.2   ppg 9.3rpg 0.6bpg 18.16 PER

Hibert stats
10.8ppg   6.6rpg 2.2bpg 13.54PER


monroe beats hibert by far in points rebounding and PER.
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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2014, 04:08:38 PM »

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No way

monroe is  a better center and he is a FA right now.
15.2   ppg 9.3rpg 0.6bpg 18.16 PER

Hibert stats
10.8ppg   6.6rpg 2.2bpg 13.54PER


monroe beats hibert by far in points rebounding and PER.

Defense.

I like Monroe a lot. I think he's the last of a dying breed (post players). But I don't love him as a fit on this team. If Sully is the future at the 4, you HAVE to have a defensive center next to him.
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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2014, 04:21:06 PM »

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Would have a pretty decent lineup as well.

Rondo/Smart/Pressey
AB/Smart/Young
Turner/Wallace/Copeland
Sully/Bass
Hibbert/Zeller/Fav if Fav is still apart of this team.
That roster is not even as good as the Indy roster that just lost to Miami. You think this is progress?

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« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2014, 04:38:15 PM »

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No way

monroe is  a better center and he is a FA right now.
15.2   ppg 9.3rpg 0.6bpg 18.16 PER

Hibert stats
10.8ppg   6.6rpg 2.2bpg 13.54PER


monroe beats hibert by far in points rebounding and PER.

Defense.

I like Monroe a lot. I think he's the last of a dying breed (post players). But I don't love him as a fit on this team. If Sully is the future at the 4, you HAVE to have a defensive center next to him.

We gotta realize that Monroe is a restricted FA and dont forget we have no cap room at the current roster to sign monroe at the same rate that Detroit reportedly wants to sign him. I'll still take Hibbert, let our dozen spread-4s move and score around him.
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« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2014, 05:41:22 PM »

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I also think Monroe is a good player, but does not fit well with Sully. Sully has a shot at be a 14-18ppg and 10-12 rpg kind of guy. You put that with Hibbert we don't need Roy to be a scoring and rebounding machine. Plus like others have said Sully needs legit size behind him for defense of purposes.  I think the pick and pop with Sully and Pick and Roll with Hibbert would spell trouble for teams. Along with AB cutting on the baseline.

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I also think Monroe is a good player, but does not fit well with Sully. Sully has a shot at be a 14-18ppg and 10-12 rpg kind of guy. You put that with Hibbert we don't need Roy to be a scoring and rebounding machine. Plus like others have said Sully needs legit size behind him for defense of purposes.  I think the pick and pop with Sully and Pick and Roll with Hibbert would spell trouble for teams. Along with AB cutting on the baseline.

I don't think how a player "fits with Sully" should be a factor in whether or not the Celts pursue that player.

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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2014, 05:54:44 PM »

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If the Celts managed to land Hibbert and land him without giving up Rondo, then that would've been a major coup.

I do also find it kinda strange that the Turner signing hasn't been made official yet (anyone have info on why that is?)

That said, I am not holding my breath.

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« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2014, 05:55:52 PM »

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I could see a deal along the lines of the following 3 way

Boston gets Hibbert, S&T Turner, and Singler

Indy gets S&T Monroe

Pistons get Green, KO and Bogans (then waive Bogans)


For Celtics
    Im on the fence as too if this is a good idea or not. I think if the Cs can land Hibbert without giving up draft picks it is a palatable deal. Losing KO stings but Hibbert is a true center and they are hard to find. I worry about the floor spacing with Rondo and Turner as starters but this would probably be an one year issue that DA would have to address next offseason. I added Singler to the deal as an after thought and Im not sure Detriot would be wiling to add him, but I think he would be good fit with the Cs and give them the floor spacing they need. He may prove to be a better fit starting over Turner. I can see Rondo, Hibbert and AB as three nice starting pieces with Sully as a wild card based on his development.

The Indy
     While Hibbert and Monroe are different players based on pure talent they get an upgrade. He isn't a great fit next to West but with Wests age they aren't likely to be together long.

Detroit
     I think this is a great deal for the Pistons Green fits perfectly as their starting SF and KO compliment Drummond and Smiths skill sets as the backup 4/5. They become a versatile athletic team that will create a lot of match-up problems for their opponents.   
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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2014, 06:00:02 PM »

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I could see a deal along the lines of the following 3 way

Boston gets Hibbert, S&T Turner, and Singler

Indy gets S&T Monroe

Pistons get Green, KO and Bogans (then waive Bogans)


For Celtics
    Im on the fence as too if this is a good idea or not. I think if the Cs can land Hibbert without giving up draft picks it is a palatable deal. Losing KO stings but Hibbert is a true center and they are hard to find. I worry about the floor spacing with Rondo and Turner as starters but this would probably be an one year issue that DA would have to address next offseason. I added Singler to the deal as an after thought and Im not sure Detriot would be wiling to add him, but I think he would be good fit with the Cs and give them the floor spacing they need. He may prove to be a better fit starting over Turner. I can see Rondo, Hibbert and AB as three nice starting pieces with Sully as a wild card based on his development.

The Indy
     While Hibbert and Monroe are different players based on pure talent they get an upgrade. He isn't a great fit next to West but with Wests age they aren't likely to be together long.

Detroit
     I think this is a great deal for the Pistons Green fits perfectly as their starting SF and KO compliment Drummond and Smiths skill sets as the backup 4/5. They become a versatile athletic team that will create a lot of match-up problems for their opponents.

This would be awesome if it happened!

Getting Hibbert without giving up Rondo?!

Would be sweet!