exum vs smart

[Sketch5]

Exum right now is all hype. He's been talked about but barley seen. We don't really have much comparison of his game. When he played the US in the 19 and under, he started off well, until Smart jump on him. Then he "hurt" his ankle, but was good enough to play the next game and do well. That's what I fear a little about Exum is that he hasn't had to go against tough defense like he will in the NBA.

He hasn't done anything that undrafted guys can't do. I watched a couple of games, and yes, nice feel for the game, and a quick first step. Not crazy athletic like Lavine. I was actually expecting Exum the way he was talked up to play like Lavine has been, and Lavine play like Exum has been. Yes things may change by the time regular season starts. But as of right now I don't feel upset about missing out on the coin toss.

Smart started off slow on the offensive end, but seemed like he was trying to fit in. The last couple of games he got more aggressive and played better. His defense is years ahead of Exum. The way he deflects the passes from the guy hes defending is great,and stats just don't pick that stuff up.

Everyone is saying Exum's ceiling is higher. Well, he has a longer way to go right now. Smart's only real weakness is his shooting. His passing is really good. He only averaged 4apg, but he didn't have that many guys that could finish well. This number will go up with more time and better players around him. If he can get his shooting around 45% and average 18ppg, 8 to 10apg, 1.5spg he's an all star. And I don't think thats a far reach. The kid can play, and he will make other PG's nights long with his D.

I don't know. Exum could be good. I'm just not crying over the coin flip and missing out on him. I like Smart. It makes moving Rondo easier, because we get a guy with the same fire, who has a better shot at becoming a better shooter.

Heck we haven't even seen Young play yet, this could be a whole new story if we got to see him play and see what all the hype was before the car accident.

[krumeto]

I'd take Exum over Smart.  Summer league doesn't really mean anything.  Exum has star potential.  I haven't seen any experts suggesting Smart has that kind of ceiling.

Smarts ceiling is Rondo which is a good role player on a contender. Exum's potential is a multi time all star who can transcend his position. Such as a Chris Paul. That coin flip will haunt the Celtics for decades.

Everything about this post is idiotic.

That is one brilliant comment of yours, Clench. Insightful, on topic, surprising depth! Where is the "Multiple TPs" button.

[McHales Pits]

For all we know...even if the Cs had won the coin toss, DA could have selected Smart at 5. Maybe DA just thinks Smart is a better basketball player than Exum - the case could easily be made. I also don't think their ceilings as players are dramatically different either.

[jambr380]

I'd take Exum over Smart.  Summer league doesn't really mean anything.  Exum has star potential.  I haven't seen any experts suggesting Smart has that kind of ceiling.

Smarts ceiling is Rondo which is a good role player on a contender. Exum's potential is a multi time all star who can transcend his position. Such as a Chris Paul. That coin flip will haunt the Celtics for decades.

Everything about this post is idiotic.

Only two cheap shots at Rondo (in a non-Rondo thread) - getting better.

As for Smart vs Exum, it is way too early to say that Exum is clearly the better prospect. If Smart can improve his shooting (big if, I know), then there is really nothing he can't do. His whole life has been proving people wrong - his attitude is pretty killer.

[RIPRED]

I don't completely understand the hubbub over Exum. He might develop into a superstar and multiple time all-star, but Smart is clearly the better player right now. It's shocking that there seems to be a consensus on this forum that Smart will stick around the NBA based solely on his defense. It's obvious that Smart is the stronger & more aggressive player. Smart has some serious real estate inside of Exum's head, which doesn't bode well for Exum in the NBA (where he will be playing against grown men every night).

[kozlodoev]

Smart has some serious real estate inside of Exum's head

Wait, what?!

 

[footey]

For all we know...even if the Cs had won the coin toss, DA could have selected Smart at 5. Maybe DA just thinks Smart is a better basketball player than Exum - the case could easily be made. I also don't think their ceilings as players are dramatically different either.

True, but doubtful. Plus Exum perceived as a much more desirable chip in any Kevin Love trade scenario which is no longer relevant but at the time of the draft it was.

[Rondo9]

I'd take Exum over Smart.  Summer league doesn't really mean anything.  Exum has star potential.  I haven't seen any experts suggesting Smart has that kind of ceiling.

Smarts ceiling is Rondo which is a good role player on a contender. Exum's potential is a multi time all star who can transcend his position. Such as a Chris Paul. That coin flip will haunt the Celtics for decades.

Everything about this post is idiotic.

That is one brilliant comment of yours, Clench. Insightful, on topic, surprising depth! Where is the "Multiple TPs" button.

Well the post above Clench was not accurate.

[Sketch5]

In the Celtics war room on draft night they were excited when Exum went to Orlando. You could see it when Orlando placed their pick.

I have a feeling they would have picked Smart at five anyways. So loosing the coin flip doesn't mean anything. I doubt that Minny would have wanted Exum over Smart that much more to make a trade.

Now if it came down to Wiggins,Parker, or Embiid, then people should have some beef. I just can't wait for the first match up of Jazz/Celtics, because you know Smart is going to want to take on every rookie he cant to prove himself. Just the kind of guy he is. Which some times is more valuable than a quick first step.

[D.o.s.]

I'd take Exum over Smart.  Summer league doesn't really mean anything.  Exum has star potential.  I haven't seen any experts suggesting Smart has that kind of ceiling.

Smarts ceiling is Rondo which is a good role player on a contender. Exum's potential is a multi time all star who can transcend his position. Such as a Chris Paul. That coin flip will haunt the Celtics for decades.

Everything about this post is idiotic.

That is one brilliant comment of yours, Clench. Insightful, on topic, surprising depth! Where is the "Multiple TPs" button.

Well the post above Clench was not accurate.

50/50. Exum's certainly got a staggering amount of potential, but it downplays Smart's ceiling.

[Asher77]

From what I have read and seen on the court Smart has the ability to be a real team leader, the vocal kind. I am talking a true leader who draws other players too him and can get everyone to play with passion. The league these days is devoid of leadership I feel, to many of the defacto type leaders who were appointed such by management without ever earning it. The kind of guy who is quiet but supposedly just leads by example or is thrilled to be chosen captain as he has tons of potential but now just needs to learn how to be a leader.

I do not know much about Exum but odds are he is in this second, more common, group.

I would take Smart.

[dysgenic]

I'd take Exum over Smart.  Summer league doesn't really mean anything.  Exum has star potential.  I haven't seen any experts suggesting Smart has that kind of ceiling.

From a guy that watched every Marcus game, this dude's ceiling is just as high as Exum. The only PGs with similar athletic combine numbers are John Wall, Westbrook, and Rose. Compare them and see.
As for exum, i'm a semi-fan but i'm not gonna praise a guy yet for ducking out on college competition to raise his stock.

I'm not really a Westbrook guy, but to compare his athleticism with Smart's is borderline silly.  Rose, too. Smart isn't in the athletic class of either Westbrook or Rose, no matter what the combine numbers say.
Smart is a different kind of player.  I'd say if everything goes perfect he'll be a Dennis Johnson type.

[Piasecki8]

Exum's hype reminds me of another really young foreign PG that went high in the lottery and was suppossed to be the next big thing. Some kid from Spain that was going to transcend the game and bring "flare" and "style" to the game here in the States. I'm rooting for Dante to succeed, but saying that he is so much better than Smart might not be fair. Let's revisit this topic in two years when they both actually have provided evidence of how their games translate in the NBA.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot. Rubio is a good, not great(as the hype lead us to believe) PG. A starter worthy player that can do his job. Although until I see Exum play some significant minutes, Ricky is my comparion. Who knows, he might not even be as good. We have no idea.

[BballTim]

I'd take Exum over Smart.  Summer league doesn't really mean anything.  Exum has star potential.  I haven't seen any experts suggesting Smart has that kind of ceiling.

Smarts ceiling is Rondo which is a good role player on a contender. Exum's potential is a multi time all star who can transcend his position. Such as a Chris Paul. That coin flip will haunt the Celtics for decades.

Everything about this post is idiotic.

That is one brilliant comment of yours, Clench. Insightful, on topic, surprising depth! Where is the "Multiple TPs" button.

  Not much depth, but don't underestimate brevity.

[rollie mass]

put a bradley or smart on exum that alone is tough going then to beat that pressure and face NBA bigs with length and shot blocking center this will challenge the best nba guards-i loved exum first step and change of pace acceleration but smart is a whole different kind of physical player-from what i read exum seems like a bit of a diva-some serious hype might lead to some serious defensive pressure much to early for unproven teenager-wiggins,,lavine,gordon, young all came out too early in my estimation not just as players but because they are just very talented boys with millions and people looking to play them-look at Kobe and magic