What stat line would Rondo need this year for you to offer him the max?

[BigDogPitbull]

He would have to win a championship with this garbage team to get a max deal.

[LilRip]

For me, rondo would be worth the max if he had:

At least 1 3PM per game with a 3P% of at least 33%
FT% of at least 75%

Shooting is the only real flaw in his game, IMO.

[BballTim]

The Max isn't going to happen no matter what he accomplishes next year.  He can't get the same number of assists he has had in the past because we don't have the same quality shooters.

His assists per 36 in 13/14 were identical to his 12/13 numbers according to basketball reference.

And in 12/13 we lost the last 6 games Rondo played in before he got injured.

  And we won 5-6 games in a row right before that. What's the point? Would his getting injured a week or so earlier have somehow changed your opinion of his play?

[BballTim]

The Max isn't going to happen no matter what he accomplishes next year.  He can't get the same number of assists he has had in the past because we don't have the same quality shooters.

  You saw plenty of posts like this before last year, when he led the league in assists from February on. Now you see a lot of "everyone knew Rondo would still get his assists but..." posts.  Keep up.

[D.o.s.]

The difference was that after last year his assists seem to be relatively untethered to winning games.

[Celtics4ever]

I think he would have to shoot  over 45%   from the field and score 20 PPG and 6 RPG and 8 APG would be max worthy.  But dude will have a hard time making the all star game if he is not more recovered.

[Alleyoopster]

The Max isn't going to happen no matter what he accomplishes next year.  He can't get the same number of assists he has had in the past because we don't have the same quality shooters.

  You saw plenty of posts like this before last year, when he led the league in assists from February on. Now you see a lot of "everyone knew Rondo would still get his assists but..." posts.  Keep up.

[Alleyoopster]

The Max isn't going to happen no matter what he accomplishes next year.  He can't get the same number of assists he has had in the past because we don't have the same quality shooters.

  You saw plenty of posts like this before last year, when he led the league in assists from February on. Now you see a lot of "everyone knew Rondo would still get his assists but..." posts.  Keep up.

Just an idea.... maybe the assist number is not a great indicator of a player's value?  For example;
1.  If a player averages 10 assists a game or more, chances are he has the ball in his hand quite a bit.  Thus, limiting input from other players.  Look at the assists stats for the Spurs in the NBA Finals this year. 

I listed the total assists for the leading players for each series.  (Note that none of these players has Rondo type assist numbers for any of the series. )
Series           Mavs  7games       Trail Blazers  5 games  Thunder 6 games         Heat 5 games
 
Berenelli               2                                    7                                 7                             3
Diaw                   20                                  15                               18                           29
Duncan                 9                                  13                               12                           10
Gianobili              22                                  19                               22                           22
Green                    5                                    4                                 6                             6
Leonard                 7                                    6                               15                           10
Mills                      10                                    6                                 9                            8
Parker                  33                                  26                               29                          23
Splitter                  16                                  13                                  7                        10

Note:  You have to click on "Series Stats" to see the whole series stats.  (There isn't a direct link.)
Dallas Series Stats: http://www.nba.com/games/20140504/DALSAS/gameinfo.html?ls=iref:nba:serieshubs:mid:seriesschedule#nbaGIlive

Trail Blazer Series Stats: http://www.nba.com/games/20140514/PORSAS/gameinfo.html?ls=iref:nba:serieshubs:mid:seriesschedule

Thunder Series Stats: http://www.nba.com/games/20140531/SASOKC/gameinfo.html?ls=iref:nba:serieshubs:mid:seriesschedule#nbaGIlive

Miami Series Stats - http://www.nba.com/games/20140615/MIASAS/gameinfo.html?ls=iref:nba:serieshubs:mid:seriesschedule#nbaGIlive

[D.o.s.]

Consider: Our team was demonstrably better on offense with Rondo "holding the ball in his hands quite a bit." Regardless of how you feel about the aesthetics of that, compared to the sharing the ball that was happening earlier in the year, it wasn't actually leading to a better offense.

[MISSERY]

rondo needs a veteran surrounding him

[Yoki_IsTheName]

15 - 18 points per game.
9 - 12 assists per game
45% shooting or better
33% 3PT shooting or better attempting at least 1 per quarter
6-8 FT attempts making 70% of them or better
Make All Star Team

But to me, its more than just the statline. For me he has to also...

Play atleast 70 games
Stop his gambling on defense
Be THE leader on the court
Be more agressive in attacking the basket
Be a bit selfish and take charge

[2short]

rondo is our best player by FAR
I'm not sure max $ is there but he should be paid the most of anyone on our team.  I think a lot depends on stevens offense but rondo can do stats of
15 ppg
10 apg
5 rpg
1.5 steals
pretty easily

[slamtheking]

For Max money?  with this roster as currently constituted:

20+ pts per game on 45+% FG, 78+% FT, 30+% on 3's.  Becomes a shooting threat where defenders no longer back off him
10+assts per game
5+Reb per game
C's 7+ seed in playoffs
Raises everyone's play on the team to another level when he's on the court.
in the MVP discussion even without playing on a top team.

For the record, I don't think he'll achieve any of these things other than the assists and rebounds.  I think his shooting % will rise across the board to the point where most people will acknowledge he's demonstrably better and teams can no longer automatically sag off him from the outside.  he won't hit those % though.  he'd also have to be superhuman to get this roster into the playoffs which is what it would take for him to be in MVP discussions.

I don't consider him a 'Max Contract' player but I do think he's worth more than he's currently making -- even before the current rash of foolish contracts being thrown at lesser players.  Personally, I think $16 mill per year starting off is fair.  would consider as high as $17 mill but over that is overpaying.

[BballTim]

The Max isn't going to happen no matter what he accomplishes next year.  He can't get the same number of assists he has had in the past because we don't have the same quality shooters.

  You saw plenty of posts like this before last year, when he led the league in assists from February on. Now you see a lot of "everyone knew Rondo would still get his assists but..." posts.  Keep up.

Just an idea.... maybe the assist number is not a great indicator of a player's value?  For example;
1.  If a player averages 10 assists a game or more, chances are he has the ball in his hand quite a bit.  Thus, limiting input from other players.  Look at the assists stats for the Spurs in the NBA Finals this year. 

I listed the total assists for the leading players for each series.  (Note that none of these players has Rondo type assist numbers for any of the series. )
Series           Mavs  7games       Trail Blazers  5 games  Thunder 6 games         Heat 5 games
 
Berenelli               2                                    7                                 7                             3
Diaw                   20                                  15                               18                           29
Duncan                 9                                  13                               12                           10
Gianobili              22                                  19                               22                           22
Green                    5                                    4                                 6                             6
Leonard                 7                                    6                               15                           10
Mills                      10                                    6                                 9                            8
Parker                  33                                  26                               29                          23
Splitter                  16                                  13                                  7                        10

  Maybe assist numbers isn't a great indicator of a player's value, that's for you to decide. But your example isn't really a great one because the Spurs have better passers than the Celts at pretty much every position but point guard. Before Rondo came back we were near the bottom of the league in percentage of assisted baskets. With Rondo we were above average in that category. Things might be different if you replaced Humphries and Bradley with Diaw and Manu, or even KG and PP, but expecting anything like that kind of assist distribution from last year's Celts team isn't overly realistic.

[jdredskin44]

I don't care about stats, he has proven enough there. I want to see him get to the rim with the same quickness and finishing ability he showed pre injury.