Source: Cavs willing to include Wiggins in Love trade

[boscel33]

I'm in the minority, but i've said it before, i don't want love if we have to overpay, and i think more than two firsts plus a player is overpaying.  i'd rather hit the reset button entirely (yes that means dealing rondo), and wait it out a couple of years for the right combo of vet and young.  who knows what sully can turn into?  can he be a 20/10 guy like love?  maybe!  he's a 17/10 guy (stats projected at 36mpg) already! 

my belief is we are the pp (scorer) type player away!  people thought green was that guy, but its clear to me he's not.  who is that guy?  do we draft or get him as an fa? 

idk, but i'm willing to wait it out.  i want to develop our young stars and add a vet here and there.  i want to have the long run, not a short one like we had with kg/pp/ra/rr.

[86MaxwellSmart]

Honestly, the Cavs should just hold on to Wiggins...There will be plenty of Free Agents banging on their door in the next few years---why give up the NEXT LeBron right now---when he can be yours for the next 15 years--?

[Snakehead]

The Cavs don't have a ton of salary flexibility, meaning they'd have to send some decent talent to Minnesota along with Wiggins.  They'd probably have to include two of Bennett, Waiters, and Thompson.

Say it's Wiggins + Waiters + Bennett for Love.  I think that's way too much.

If this is right, yeah, that'd be a really bad move.  Wiggins alone is enough to send them talent wise to me.

I'm pretty high on Wiggins though and in particular in this role on Cleveland.  It's virtually perfect, allows him to develop well in a less demanding role alongside two other star players.

[Roy H.]

The Cavs don't have a ton of salary flexibility, meaning they'd have to send some decent talent to Minnesota along with Wiggins.  They'd probably have to include two of Bennett, Waiters, and Thompson.

Say it's Wiggins + Waiters + Bennett for Love.  I think that's way too much.

If this is right, yeah, that'd be a really bad move.  Wiggins alone is enough to send them talent wise to me.

I'm pretty high on Wiggins though and in particular in this role on Cleveland.  It's virtually perfect, allows him to develop well in a less demanding role alongside two other star players.

They also could send Varejao, but AV is Lebron's best friend on the team, so I doubt that happens.

[Sketch5]

The Cavs don't have a ton of salary flexibility, meaning they'd have to send some decent talent to Minnesota along with Wiggins.  They'd probably have to include two of Bennett, Waiters, and Thompson.

Say it's Wiggins + Waiters + Bennett for Love.  I think that's way too much.

I worked out Trade Machine and Wiggins,Bennett,Felix would work. Cleveland would absorb the rest. But this would also make it very tight to bring in other players.

More so if they added Waiters. They loose a lot of flexibility in line ups. If they brought Allen in to play SG, even though he's in great shape, he's creeping up on 40. He doesn't help you were having three young guys will.

No smart on Lebrons behalf after what he saw in the finals and getting bounce hard by a team were no one makes more than 15M. Next season they'll probably have 55 to 60M tied up in just three players, just like Miami...Dumb!

[Snakehead]

The Cavs don't have a ton of salary flexibility, meaning they'd have to send some decent talent to Minnesota along with Wiggins.  They'd probably have to include two of Bennett, Waiters, and Thompson.

Say it's Wiggins + Waiters + Bennett for Love.  I think that's way too much.

If this is right, yeah, that'd be a really bad move.  Wiggins alone is enough to send them talent wise to me.

I'm pretty high on Wiggins though and in particular in this role on Cleveland.  It's virtually perfect, allows him to develop well in a less demanding role alongside two other star players.

They also could send Varejao, but AV is Lebron's best friend on the team, so I doubt that happens.

Plus they have so little big depth.  Sure they'd add love but they really need to add Love to what's already there in the front court.

[thehumburger]

The Cavs don't have a ton of salary flexibility, meaning they'd have to send some decent talent to Minnesota along with Wiggins.  They'd probably have to include two of Bennett, Waiters, and Thompson.

Say it's Wiggins + Waiters + Bennett for Love.  I think that's way too much.

If this is right, yeah, that'd be a really bad move.  Wiggins alone is enough to send them talent wise to me.

I'm pretty high on Wiggins though and in particular in this role on Cleveland.  It's virtually perfect, allows him to develop well in a less demanding role alongside two other star players.

They also could send Varejao, but AV is Lebron's best friend on the team, so I doubt that happens.

Plus they have so little big depth.  Sure they'd add love but they really need to add Love to what's already there in the front court.

I wonder if the Cavs gave up that much they could coax Dieng away from Minny. I'm sure Minny wants to keep him but if you're talking about back-to-back #1 picks plus Waiters and/or Thompson, that's a good haul and would give Cleveland good size.

[MBunge]

Say it's Wiggins + Waiters + Bennett for Love.  I think that's way too much.

I can't believe Flip wants anything to do with Bennett.  Wiggins+Waiters+the expiring contract of Varejao is much better for Minny, given how much money they've got committed to Martin and Pekovic.

Mike

[Fafnir]

Honestly, the Cavs should just hold on to Wiggins...There will be plenty of Free Agents

They won't have any cap space to acquire FAs.

LeBron makes 21 million, Kryie is getting 14-15 or so, maybe more if Derrick Rose rule applies. Then Tristan Thompson has a cap hold, Bennet has his option at 5.8 and Wiggins will making around 5.5 ish I think as well, Waiters is at 5.1 on his option.

That all adds up to 52 million with Thompson's cap hold. That's assuming they add no other players at all and just don't cut rookies.

[D.o.s.]

Not to say that this was the exact strategy that failed Cleveland the first time around...


But this was the exact strategy that failed Cleveland the first time around.

[cltc5]

And that's that.  Can we now move on from Love to Boston.  Rondo probably gone too.  Oh Boy 10 years of a rebuild here we come

[Donoghus]

Not to say that this was the exact strategy that failed Cleveland the first time around...


But this was the exact strategy that failed Cleveland the first time around.

I think you'd be looking at a better talent core here with Irvin/Lebron/Love than what CLE was trotting out in the late 2000s.  This isn't Mo Williams, a past his prime Antawn Jamison, and friends. 

[Fafnir]

Not to say that this was the exact strategy that failed Cleveland the first time around...


But this was the exact strategy that failed Cleveland the first time around.

If you think Drew Gooden is equivalent to Kevin Love I guess so?

[Fafnir]

Not to say that this was the exact strategy that failed Cleveland the first time around...


But this was the exact strategy that failed Cleveland the first time around.

I think you'd be looking at a better talent core here with Irvin/Lebron/Love than what CLE was trotting out in the late 2000s.  This isn't Mo Williams, a past his prime Antawn Jamison, and friends.

Yeah Kevin Love is a clear all-nba/all-star level performer.

If anything Cleveland's strategy last time was to stupidly lose Carlos Boozer who is at least comparable to Love as an all-star level player and then flop around like a dead fish while acquiring every veteran defensive player they could.

[thehumburger]

Not to say that this was the exact strategy that failed Cleveland the first time around...


But this was the exact strategy that failed Cleveland the first time around.

It is if you equate Kevin Love to Mo Williams and an over-the-hill Shaq. Which is to say it isn't.