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Offline Monkhouse

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I'm not a firm believer in Bradley after the contract was given, but lets be positive here, because hes definitely gonna be a part of our future. He was shooting pretty well from the 3pt line throughout the season, and has made 79 3's, which is fantastic, considering hes missed a lot of games, and missing a few games without Rondo feeding him the ball in his hot spots coming off screens.

His defense fell down a notch, but I believe once hes able to adjust to Brad Steven's system, and become the same grind it out/full court pressuring guard, and Smart backing Rondo/Bradley for a few extra minutes, it'll really help him maintain his energy.

I think Bradley is gonna be a great 3 and D type of shooting guard, and be able to have a multitude of nice mid range shots. I think he needs to improve on being to handle the ball better, and learn at least how to make good passes. I would love Bradley to be a great finisher, but with a player like Rondo, you need to have a great shooter. Bradley isn't so amazing, but he still made 79 3's, and shot close to 40%, (39.5), and Bradley can be a great shooter in the future through eye tests and seeing how fluid his shooting form/release is.

Hes also a hard worker, and has improved his ability to rebound every year.

My prediction for his 2014-2015 season?
15.7 PPG, 2.1 APG, 4.6 RPG, 1.8 SPG.

Most likely make 1st or 2nd Defensive All team for sure.

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Bradley, a 6’2” guard, is coming off a breakout 2013-14 season where he recorded career-highs in points per game (14.9), rebounds per game (3.8, minutes (1855), field goals made (361), three-pointers made (79) and free throws made (90). Bradley tied a career-high for points in a game when he notched 28 points against Brooklyn on March 21. He recorded his first career double-double when he recorded 13 points and a career-high 10 rebounds against New York on December 8. Selected with the 19th overall pick in the 2010 NBA Draft, Bradley recorded his 1,000th career points in the opening game of the season against Toronto on October 30. He led the Celtics in scoring in 17 games and recorded 20 or more points in 16 contests.

What Danny Ainge said about him:
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“We see Avery as a key part of our chase of Banner 18,” said Danny Ainge, Celtics President of Basketball Operations. "He keeps getting better and is still far from reaching his ceiling. We're ecstatic to have him back."

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Re: I really think Bradley is gonna have a great season next year
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I agree. If Bradley stays healthy and plays at least 70 games for us, I can see him having a breakout year.

My stats predictions: 15.1 PPG, 3.2 APG, 5.8 RPG, 1.6 SPG
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I agree. If Bradley stays healthy and plays at least 70 games for us, I can see him having a breakout year.

My stats predictions: 15.1 PPG, 3.2 APG, 5.8 RPG, 1.6 SPG

Whoa pretty high assist numbers lol. I don't think he'll jump up to 3 APG, that's Harden, Wade, and Bradley Beal's numbers/territory.

I can see it hovering around 2.1-2.6. I just don't think Bradley has the handles and court vision yet; for him to be able to see over defenders due to his small frame.
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He really just needs to stay healthy.

Right now he seems like a one dribble shot type guy. Hopefully this offseason he can improve his dribble so that he can get all the way to the rim more often.
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He really just needs to stay healthy.

Right now he seems like a one dribble shot type guy. Hopefully this offseason he can improve his dribble so that he can get all the way to the rim more often.

Agreed. Above all, I want Bradley working on his shot all night long. If he can reproduce similar numbers of 38-40% from the 3pt while hitting more than 90 3pt made, he'll be looming near Damian Lillard's numbers. I really think Bradley can be a surprising shooter. I think he'll be a great 3 pt shooter in 2-3 years.
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He really just needs to stay healthy.

Right now he seems like a one dribble shot type guy. Hopefully this offseason he can improve his dribble so that he can get all the way to the rim more often.

That and passing.  Please, god ;D  Maybe he should only play in pickup games as a point guard, lol.
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The name Avery Bradley and the words great season will never form together in a compatible sentence that escapes from my mouth.

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I was actually wondering if we would be interested in Dion Waiters seeing how he might be the out man in Cleveland, but while looking at his numbers is was shocking to find that AB is now a better 3pt shooter. 

Hopefully another healthy summer = another season of growth.

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The name Avery Bradley and the words great season will never form together in a compatible sentence that escapes from my mouth.

What is with the extreme hatred for Bradley?

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If he can consistently use that crossover move as seen in the highlights from that Nets game, he could be deadly.  We all know how hard he works, so thankfully that isn't the problem :)  Someone give him a tape, or tell him to watch as much, of Joe Dumars as possible.  He might not be the passer that Joe was, or as strong, but Dumars would be the perfect player for Avery to emulate, imo.  I think that that's who a lot of people, including me, hoped he could turn into one day.  Even partially lol.

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I was actually wondering if we would be interested in Dion Waiters seeing how he might be the out man in Cleveland, but while looking at his numbers is was shocking to find that AB is now a better 3pt shooter. 

Hopefully another healthy summer = another season of growth.

The name Avery Bradley and the words great season will never form together in a compatible sentence that escapes from my mouth.

I understand where you're coming from pearl, and that is definitely your opinion. I'm just writing this, because we're so negative to our players. Yes Bradley may never ever be nothing more than a good role player, but the thing is hes still 23, and we have to have an bigger positive outlook. I'm just tired of us constantly berating our prospects, and at least keeping my hopes up that they can blossom.

It always hurt me to see Jefferson traded. I really wish we kept him, but it got us a banner. Unfortunately, I don't think us trying to rush the process instead of seeing what we got will be beneficial. With Ainge re-signing Bradley, it clearly means that he at least knew Bradley had potential, and that Ainge is extremely intelligent enough to predict how the market would have played out. I honestly think Bradley could've gotten at least 9-10 million per year. Some team would honestly think he could pan out with some cap space to blow.

Draftsmart33: I like Dion. I'm a huge fan of him too. I believe he can become a great offensive shooting guard with the right effort on defense, hopefully become elite in that category too. Hes just very advanced offensively, knows how to do step backs, drive inside for contact, and is a decent 3 pt shooter. Unfortunately his free throw is a little flat, and he still needs to prove he can be a team player, and hustle on defense.

Overall, I would love to keep Smart. I think Smart will surpass most shooting guards in the league, that is, if we keep Rondo, and he gets slotted to SG.
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I'm just writing this, because we're so negative to our players.

Ding ding ding!!!

I've been saying this for so very long now.  There is definitely a very prominent "Grass is greener on the other side" attitude on these boards.

The reality is that, statistically, Avery Bradley is already one of the top shooting guards in the NBA. 

Among all guards in the NBA (not just shooting guards, ALL guards), Bradley ranked:

* 9th in scoring (14.9 PPG)
* 7th in rebounds (3.8 RPG)
* 12th in steals (1.1 SPG)
* 16th in field goal percentage (43.8%)
* 6th in three-point percentage (39.5%)

He also ranked 3rd in "fewest turnovers per game" among all guards who played at least 30 minutes a night.

People jump on the hate bandwagon because he's not a great passer or ball handler, but then completely ignore all of the things he does well.   Plus I don't really care so much that Bradley doesn't get many assists, because he doesn't turn the ball over either.  His Assist-to-Turnover ratio is essentially 1:1 which means he's not a liability in that regard, he just doesn't give you any benefit. 

This doesn't even take in to account the intangibles such as effort, hustle, coach ability and unselfishness - all areas of strength for AB.

People completely ignore the fact that at the end of the day Avery Bradley is probably a top 10 SG in this league, and that's despite him being only 23 years of age (and hence theoretically having plenty of opportunity to improve).
 

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He also ranked 3rd in "fewest turnovers per game" among all guards who played at least 30 minutes a night.

Does this stat equate him having to dribble the ball? or it simply counts the number of TO/game...
If you see him hold the ball and try to create a play it's a TO waiting to happen....

Don't get me wrong, I like his tenacity and dedication to improve
he's shooting well, but he's handling and playmaking is very poor....

hope he can improve on that this off season..
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He also ranked 3rd in "fewest turnovers per game" among all guards who played at least 30 minutes a night.

Does this stat equate him having to dribble the ball? or it simply counts the number of TO/game...
If you see him hold the ball and try to create a play it's a TO waiting to happen....

Don't get me wrong, I like his tenacity and dedication to improve
he's shooting well, but he's handling and playmaking is very poor....

hope he can improve on that this off season..

When you say things like that it just gives more props to AB. People are upset with Sully for taking and missing so many 3s but when AB doesn't force his weakness, it's also a negative? None of these guys can do right in "your" eyes, no matter how they stack up against their peers.
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He also ranked 3rd in "fewest turnovers per game" among all guards who played at least 30 minutes a night.

Does this stat equate him having to dribble the ball? or it simply counts the number of TO/game...
If you see him hold the ball and try to create a play it's a TO waiting to happen....

Don't get me wrong, I like his tenacity and dedication to improve
he's shooting well, but he's handling and playmaking is very poor....

hope he can improve on that this off season..

Actually from what I've seen, Bradley has improved a lot with his ball handling and I don't think his ball handling is a problem at all when he is playing the SG spot, or even when he's playing occasional spot minutes at PG.  It's really only once he's asked to spend a significant number of minutes at the PG spot (say 20 a game or more) that his ball handling and passing seem to really become a liabliity.

The point with Bradley is that he's a natural SG, and 80% of the time he will play SG, so it really doesn't matter that he isn't a good playmaker, or that he isn't a great ball handler.  For a SG who spends the vast majority of his time playing off the ball, his ball handling ability is plenty adequate.  Gerald Wallace played SF last year and still piled up turnovers like they were going out of fashion, so when you consider the fact that Bradley handled the ball far more than Wallace did, I think his lack of turnovers is worth mentioning.