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Re: Celtics 1 of 5 Teams Interested in Humphries
« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2014, 09:34:30 AM »

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I watched every game last year and I liked Humph a lot.  He's a very good player who knows what he's doing.  Can play PF or C, has a good jump shot from up to 15-16 ft., can rebound, boxes out and players good D.  I just did not like the money being paid to him.

If we can get him at a reasonable contract, I'm all for it.  I wonder sometimes if people that post things on these boards ever watch a game.

Re: Celtics 1 of 5 Teams Interested in Humphries
« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2014, 10:03:40 AM »

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I watched every game last year and I liked Humph a lot.  He's a very good player who knows what he's doing.  Can play PF or C, has a good jump shot from up to 15-16 ft., can rebound, boxes out and players good D.  I just did not like the money being paid to him.

If we can get him at a reasonable contract, I'm all for it.  I wonder sometimes if people that post things on these boards ever watch a game.

I'm with you on this.  If we don't get a star like Love ideally I'd like FA center, KO, Sully, and Hump in a rotation with Bass traded away to a contender.  I like Hump better than Bass as I think they have similar scoring and defense capabilities, but Kris is better rebounder and can play a little center if you absolutely need someone there.

Re: Celtics 1 of 5 Teams Interested in Humphries
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2014, 10:18:21 AM »

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Humphries was the 11th rated center in the NBA in PER last year.
He actually was our best player.

Other than he got abused by other centers...

He played well. He shot well, he defended well, and he hustled.


He "tried" to defend well. Again, he was overmatched by other centers.

Because he's not a Center. This is why I like him back, ONLY if we fix our log jam of PF and get a Center.

We Sully/KO and Bass for a Center, and you sign Hump for a reasonable deal (around $5-$7 mil) and make him be the PF. He can defend, he rebounds, he's tough, decent mid range game to open up the floor and a good teammate. 8 points and 6 rebounds and a block in 20 minutes is solid production. You want him to be your 3rd big, playing little minutes at Center and backing up whoever PF we keep, along with a Center we acquire to help with the rebounding and defending.

If we get Greg Monroe, Humphries will be a great PF next to him.

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Re: Celtics 1 of 5 Teams Interested in Humphries
« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2014, 10:30:34 AM »

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if danny resigns Humprhies he should be fired.

Depends.

If he brings him in for yet another $11 million per year deal, then he should.

If he brings him in for MLE price or close, if not cheaper, then he will be lauded.

Humphries can play, and can be a starting PF in this league. If we trade one of our young PF's and/or Bass to acquire a Center, we can use Hump as a backup or a starter and he'll produce for us.

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Re: Celtics 1 of 5 Teams Interested in Humphries
« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2014, 10:43:28 AM »

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Humphries can play, and can be a starting PF in this league.

Humphries is certainly no scrub, but I don't think he is capable of being a starting PF on a contending team.  Too limited defensively, and not skilled enough offensively to offset what he gives up on defense.  Humphries would however make an excellent 3rd big on a contending team, due to his hustle and rebounding ability.

I'd place his worth in today's NBA market somewhere around $6m-$8m per season.  Bigs who can contribute are not easy to come by, thus why they always end up getting paid more than wings or guards who contribute more.

Re: Celtics 1 of 5 Teams Interested in Humphries
« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2014, 10:50:42 AM »

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Humphries can play, and can be a starting PF in this league.

Humphries is certainly no scrub, but I don't think he is capable of being a starting PF on a contending team.  Too limited defensively, and not skilled enough offensively to offset what he gives up on defense.  Humphries would however make an excellent 3rd big on a contending team, due to his hustle and rebounding ability.

I'd place his worth in today's NBA market somewhere around $6m-$8m per season.  Bigs who can contribute are not easy to come by, thus why they always end up getting paid more than wings or guards who contribute more.

I think he can. If Udonis Haslem can start on a contending team, so can he. He's not going to be effectively handle quick PF', true, but he'll be strong enough to go against the rest. He's got solid size, energetic (not explosive but energetic) not afraid to be rough. He blocks shots. He's good on that end. He rotates well and helps. He cleans up the misses and can open up the floor a bit by having a decent 18 footer.

You cant ask him to do too much on offense, of course we know there's nothing he can do more. But as a holding PF who will do the dirty stuff, for $6-$8 mil, I think he can start. I think he'll have a Robin Lopez impact as a PF, that's good enough to start.
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Re: Celtics 1 of 5 Teams Interested in Humphries
« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2014, 10:53:46 AM »

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Humphries can play, and can be a starting PF in this league.

Humphries is certainly no scrub, but I don't think he is capable of being a starting PF on a contending team.  Too limited defensively, and not skilled enough offensively to offset what he gives up on defense.  Humphries would however make an excellent 3rd big on a contending team, due to his hustle and rebounding ability.

I'd place his worth in today's NBA market somewhere around $6m-$8m per season.  Bigs who can contribute are not easy to come by, thus why they always end up getting paid more than wings or guards who contribute more.

I think he can. If Udonis Haslem can start on a contending team, so can he. He's not going to be effectively handle quick PF', true, but he'll be strong enough to go against the rest. He's got solid size, energetic (not explosive but energetic) not afraid to be rough. He blocks shots. He's good on that end. He rotates well and helps. He cleans up the misses and can open up the floor a bit by having a decent 18 footer.

You cant ask him to do too much on offense, of course we know there's nothing he can do more. But as a holding PF who will do the dirty stuff, for $6-$8 mil, I think he can start. I think he'll have a Robin Lopez impact as a PF, that's good enough to start.

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Re: Celtics 1 of 5 Teams Interested in Humphries
« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2014, 10:55:32 AM »

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I dunno, I'd hope for more from my starting PF than Hump is capable of.  But I suppose if the rest of the roster around him was top quality he might be passable as a starting PF.  Very few teams are that good though, to allow for that.

Re: Celtics 1 of 5 Teams Interested in Humphries
« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2014, 11:07:13 AM »

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I dunno, I'd hope for more from my starting PF than Hump is capable of.  But I suppose if the rest of the roster around him was top quality he might be passable as a starting PF.  Very few teams are that good though, to allow for that.

I get you though KGK. It would help if we have a Center who can be the go to guy down low, and Hump is there to just open space and help him defensively.

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Re: Celtics 1 of 5 Teams Interested in Humphries
« Reply #39 on: July 04, 2014, 11:21:41 AM »

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My feeling is that it's going to be difficult to sign Humphries.  He's probably looking for a 3-4 year deal @ $7.5 million - $9 million per year.  I doubt he's immediately willing to sign for $5-7.  The question is which team is willing and has the money to pay him that much for that period of time?   

By himself he doesn't make the Celtics a contender, but he may keep them from the bottom of the barrel.  On another team he could provide the edge a contender could use to get them over the top....the Celtics are not there yet.  So, maybe the question Danny needs to ask is, do we go further into the lottery and not sign him or do we sign him in hopes of winning 38 games this coming season and end up with 18th pick?  With all the other #1 picks coming the Celtics way it may be worth the gamble to sign him? 

Re: Celtics 1 of 5 Teams Interested in Humphries
« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2014, 11:34:15 AM »

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My feeling is that it's going to be difficult to sign Humphries.  He's probably looking for a 3-4 year deal @ $7.5 million - $9 million per year.  I doubt he's immediately willing to sign for $5-7.  The question is which team is willing and has the money to pay him that much for that period of time?   

By himself he doesn't make the Celtics a contender, but he may keep them from the bottom of the barrel.  On another team he could provide the edge a contender could use to get them over the top....the Celtics are not there yet.  So, maybe the question Danny needs to ask is, do we go further into the lottery and not sign him or do we sign him in hopes of winning 38 games this coming season and end up with 18th pick?  With all the other #1 picks coming the Celtics way it may be worth the gamble to sign him?

I think Humphries was our most consistent player last year and earned his starting spot. However, I don't see how tying up salary with another PF (who can play center, but most PFs can play center when asked, it's just how well that's the question) is productive.

At this point in time the Celtics need to honestly ask whether taking a step backward to take two steps forward later on is the move.

Signing Humphries isn't a step backward, it's just a side step and furthering the logjam at PF

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« Reply #41 on: July 04, 2014, 11:43:21 AM »

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My feeling is that it's going to be difficult to sign Humphries.  He's probably looking for a 3-4 year deal @ $7.5 million - $9 million per year.  I doubt he's immediately willing to sign for $5-7.  The question is which team is willing and has the money to pay him that much for that period of time?   

By himself he doesn't make the Celtics a contender, but he may keep them from the bottom of the barrel.  On another team he could provide the edge a contender could use to get them over the top....the Celtics are not there yet.  So, maybe the question Danny needs to ask is, do we go further into the lottery and not sign him or do we sign him in hopes of winning 38 games this coming season and end up with 18th pick?  With all the other #1 picks coming the Celtics way it may be worth the gamble to sign him?

I think Humphries was our most consistent player last year and earned his starting spot. However, I don't see how tying up salary with another PF (who can play center, but most PFs can play center when asked, it's just how well that's the question) is productive.

At this point in time the Celtics need to honestly ask whether taking a step backward to take two steps forward later on is the move.

Signing Humphries isn't a step backward, it's just a side step and furthering the logjam at PF
Good point:  If we look at Humphries as a power forward then you are right..signing him creates a further logjam at PF.  However, I believe he plays center much of the time with the Celtics.  If we want to look at him as forward, then are you saying somebody has to go?  Possibly Bass, Sullinger or Olynyk, or Wallace?  Maybe that logjam would addressed in 2015-2016 season or through a trade this season.

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« Reply #42 on: July 04, 2014, 11:49:33 AM »

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I think Humphries can play center, but I think he's ideally a solid rebounding PF who can hit the 15-18 footer.

Regardless of where we slot him, he will take away minutes from Sully and Olynyk. I don't think either are going to become All-Stars next year, but they need minutes to even entice others to want to trade for them.

I think the Celtics, especially after signing AB, need to be very conscious of not spending much more money just to say they "did something" this offseason. Letting Bayless and Humphries walk is a good move, imo.

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« Reply #43 on: July 04, 2014, 12:13:40 PM »

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I would welcome him back on a more reasonable contract as long as we still get a center and move Bass or Sully. Like others said no need for KO, Sully, Bass and Hump again, that is at least 1 to many.

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I think resigning Humphries should also be a priority for the Celtics. In last years lopsided season Humps was the only one who I saw hustle every game and the confidence and sportsmanship he showed on the floor was a big bright spot. If we can sign him 2-3 years at a reasonable rate (definitely lower than last year) then I would love to have him back. Humphries, Faverani, Iverson, Anthony, and FA would be a solid center core this season for the Celtics. Hopefully Anthony can at least contribute this season even in limited minutes. And Faverani is healthy. I have high hopes for Iverson, he has the height and the ability and he can score.
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