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Re: Bird going after Rondo?
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2014, 11:28:56 AM »

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I'd imagine if Stephenson's involved he'd be going to PHX to play 2 alongside whoever's left of Dragic and Bledsoe.  We don't seem to need another 2 guard right now, and I'm guessing Stephenson's character issues are a red flag for Danny.

If we could somehow land Dragic and Hibbert I'd be willing to move Rondo and a couple other pieces.  $7.5 million to Dragic for 2 years while we assess Smart.  Hibbert gets about double that but again only for 2 years.  Rondo gets a legit shot at another ring in Indy.  Depends on the package but could be worth a shot.
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If it's BOS/IND/PHX, framework of the deal has to be Bledsoe to Boston, Rondo to Indy and Stephenson to Phoenix... right?


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Attention cut-and-paste feeds w/reading comprehension issues: Indy's target is Goran Dragic. That's what @ZachLowe_NBA and I were discussing

So when he mentioned Rondo he must have meant Rondo to Phoenix, Dragic to Indiana and ? to Boston.

I doubt a deal happens because short of Hibbert, I have no idea who Indiana would give us for Rondo.
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My brother said he heard on radio it was phx boston indy

Rondo to Indy, Stephenson to PHX, Bledsoe to Boston?

Not sure how I'd feel about that (actually, I am, considering the only sports apparel I own is a Rondo shirt I bought last year).  Don't know who it's fair for and who it isn't.  Presumably Bledsoe would get the max in this scenario.

What about Len and a 2015 first round pick?  They have the right to swap picks with Brooklyn next year.  It's likely one of those two teams will miss the playoffs.  There would have to be salary filler as well.

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Rondo is a perfect fit for the pacers.  I think we get whoever is from the 3rd team.

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So, under the theory that Indiana is trying to recruit Boston to make a Dragic deal happen, it's:

PHX gets: Rondo
IND gets: Dragic
BOS gets: ??

There's not a lot I want from Indiana outside of George (Stephenson isn't a great fit with Smart and Bradley on the roster, and he will be overpaid).  In terms of Phoenix, I can't see them adding assets if they're moving Dragic.


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I don't understand the love for Lance....the guy is a head case....there is little doubt in my mind that he will not only taint the locker room (which is full of young players) but question the coaches when he doesn't get his way. 

I wouldn't trade Olynyk for Stephenson let alone Rondo.

This reminds me of all the JSmith love on this forum...another waste of a player.

I also think Avery Bradley will be better than lance in most ways in a year or two without being a "head case" as some call Lance. He plans on putting on some size this summer and will be living in the gym working on his 3 point shot from everywhere.

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My brother said he heard on radio it was phx boston indy

Rondo to Indy, Stephenson to PHX, Bledsoe to Boston?

Not sure how I'd feel about that (actually, I am, considering the only sports apparel I own is a Rondo shirt I bought last year).  Don't know who it's fair for and who it isn't.  Presumably Bledsoe would get the max in this scenario.

What about Len and a 2015 first round pick?  They have the right to swap picks with Brooklyn next year.  It's likely one of those two teams will miss the playoffs.  There would have to be salary filler as well.

Atlanta has the rights to swap with Brooklyn, not Phoenix.

I think the extra in the deal needs to come from Indy, not Phoenix.  They're giving up Lance and getting Rondo.

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My guess is that Bird is offering Hibbert to teams, but I don't think he's worth Rondo or Dragic (Indiana's other reported target).  Hibbert is too flawed offensively, and seems mentally weak.

Pacers want championship runs right about now. Trading Hibbert sets them back another 2 years trying to get a center with better or equivalent talent. Hibbert is aging but didn't fall off. Pacers guards just got  shot happy. Especially Lance who is all gassed up since he started finding his game

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My guess is that Bird is offering Hibbert to teams, but I don't think he's worth Rondo or Dragic (Indiana's other reported target).  Hibbert is too flawed offensively, and seems mentally weak.

Pacers want championship runs right about now. Trading Hibbert sets them back another 2 years trying to get a center with better or equivalent talent. Hibbert is aging but didn't fall off. Pacers guards just got  shot happy. Especially Lance who is all gassed up since he started finding his game

Hibbert's 27, he should be just entering his prime.  He just had a huge slump late season that seemed as much mental as anything else.

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Phoenix also drafted Tyler Ennis so Dragic would be available..
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My guess is that Bird is offering Hibbert to teams, but I don't think he's worth Rondo or Dragic (Indiana's other reported target).  Hibbert is too flawed offensively, and seems mentally weak.

Pacers want championship runs right about now. Trading Hibbert sets them back another 2 years trying to get a center with better or equivalent talent. Hibbert is aging but didn't fall off. Pacers guards just got  shot happy. Especially Lance who is all gassed up since he started finding his game

Hibbert's 27, he should be just entering his prime.  He just had a huge slump late season that seemed as much mental as anything else.

OH snap he's only 27? I might consider giving up Rondo for him at this point.

I deffinetely agree with you, Roy's slump was deffinetely a mental problem that he made seem his team wasn't helping out with

Hibbert quote "Not getting the looks i want on the offensive end. For now, Ill just worry about winning Defensive player of the year"

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So, under the theory that Indiana is trying to recruit Boston to make a Dragic deal happen, it's:

PHX gets: Rondo
IND gets: Dragic
BOS gets: ??

There's not a lot I want from Indiana outside of George (Stephenson isn't a great fit with Smart and Bradley on the roster, and he will be overpaid).  In terms of Phoenix, I can't see them adding assets if they're moving Dragic.

Maybe the Dragic was subterfuge and it's that PHO is involved b/c IND knows they don't have enough for Rondo? Something like:

PHX gets: Lance
IND gets: Rondo, a Morris (or a S&T Okafor?)
BOS gets: Hibbert + some PHO #1s


I guess that gives PHO too many starting guards -- but for the price of a forward and some picks, they are poss. able to get more then for one of Dragic or Bledsoe?



FWIW, I'd rather keep Rondo and see how he works with Smart before even entertaining the notion of trading him (unless the offer is too good to refuse)...
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Indy is targeting dragic, rondo might be the target of the suns.

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Then what for the celts? Stephenson?? I dont want that clown in my team