Smart and Pressey shooting 3's in practice (video)

[rollie mass]

KO looks much thinner--looks like he wants to improve first step,jump and lateral movement --but looks like he could be pushed around

[greg683x]

theres a marcus smart workout video somewhere around here where it shows him draining uncontested jumper after jumper as well, he even moves around to different spots.

Im not saying this makes Smart a good shooter, I'm more saying that it just means there isnt much to take from these videos.  Even in the video where Smart goes 3-5 with the trainer contesting his shots, theres still not much to take from that IMO.  Psychologically those players know that trainer is only going to stick his hands up three feet away from them, they dont have to rush their shot or think about anything else.  In game situations where you know have to rush your shot, and you dont know whether the defender is going to press you or drop back a little to protect against the drive is a whole different ball game.

[pokeKingCurtis]

Stauskas could be completely fresh, while Marcus Smart and Pressey may have already been through several sets of workouts.

[Future Celtics Owner]

I could care less about Pressey. But I do believe Marcus Smart will become a very good three point shooter. His mechanics are fine, just that dip in his shot. As time goes by he will begin to shoot better and better. Remember Jkidd, Gary Payton, came in to the league being questionable shooters from three.

[Tr1boy]

Stauskas could be completely fresh, while Marcus Smart and Pressey may have already been through several sets of workouts.

Stauskus also dips down before shooting.

As long as pressey can make the open 3, he will be ok.

Smart shot looks better. As long as he doesnt wind up too much or turn sideways after the follow through(in the workouts he has got this fixed) he will be good

[mmmmm]

Stauskas could be completely fresh, while Marcus Smart and Pressey may have already been through several sets of workouts.

Stauskus also dips down before shooting.

As long as pressey can make the open 3, he will be ok.

Smart shot looks better. As long as he doesnt wind up too much or turn sideways after the follow through(in the workouts he has got this fixed) he will be good

Dipping the ball isn't unusual - most shooters dip it some so they have more travel as they push the ball up.

Where Smart's mechanics would break down (in actual game shots the last two seasons) is he would lean forward, bent at the waist and have his arms out on the dip.  This would start the ball down between his knees.   This would mean he would be first pulling the ball in to him (with the ball often ending up cocked above & behind his head) and then pushing it back out on the actual shot, while his back would be straightening up, pulling off the shot.  The result was often a flat shot.   The problem is exaggerated on 3s because he's trying to muscle it for the extra distance.   It also exposes the ball more to defenders.

You won't see this problem in practice shot vids like posted here, where they are basically taking upright set shots with the most minimal jump.

The starting place to solve this is in the knees - bend 'em son.  Don't bend at the waist.   Watch a thousand hours of Ray Allen vids (or just review this one game here a zillion times) and look at his legs.  Do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poVuS0PAuu8

The worry is that Smart's been doing that bend over so long that it will be hard to fix.  Stopping the lean and using his legs right will be a start.  Beyond that, he's got to stop pulling his off shoulder away as he lets it fly.  That's rotating him off of square.   That's going to be really hard to fix.

He's a hard working kid and he's going to have great coaches working with him.  Hopefully he will work this out.   But don't expect massive improvements right away.

Ultimately, if he never fixes it, I personally don't think it decreases his value much.  His ability to explode to the hoop and draw fouls is a powerful offensive weapon in itself.  Last year, only Green & Bass ever seemed able to get to the FT line (Kelly showed flashes in those late season games).  We need more of that ability from the guards & wings.

[LarBrd33]

Man Ray Allen arguably the most clutch player of all time.  That game was unreal.  That entire series was unreal.  All he really needs to send in for his hall of fame reel is that Bulls series and the Miami 3-pointer.  Game over.  Legendary.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Smart's the man

Anyone who actually watched him in college knows he can and will be a good shooter.

D wade V2.0               Hey i can dream right?? 

[Jailan34]

Smart's the man

Anyone who actually watched him in college knows he can and will be a good shooter.

D wade V2.0               Hey i can dream right?? 

While Wade was quicker than Smart, I do feel Smart is the much stronger player. So excited to watch him tomorrow morning.

[sofutomygaha]

Man Ray Allen arguably the most clutch player of all time.  That game was unreal.  That entire series was unreal.  All he really needs to send in for his hall of fame reel is that Bulls series and the Miami 3-pointer.  Game over.  Legendary.

Watch that whole video again, but this time only look at Perkins and BBD.

[libermaniac]

3-5 in practice for a professional shooter is kind of horrible, honestly.

LOL.  What, are we becoming football fans watching the OTA's?  It's 5 shots!  I bet Larry Bird went 0-5 in practice during some stretch in his career, and I bet Rondo nailed 5 straight at one point.  It really doesn't matter when it comes down to it.

Cool watching the video though.  Smart's gonna be a good one.

[Tr1boy]

Smart's the man

Anyone who actually watched him in college knows he can and will be a good shooter.

D wade V2.0               Hey i can dream right??

Dwade at 30-31. Dwade back in the day could dunk on 2 or 3 guys

[Sketch5]

Smart's the man

Anyone who actually watched him in college knows he can and will be a good shooter.

D wade V2.0               Hey i can dream right??

Dwade at 30-31. Dwade back in the day could dunk on 2 or 3 guys

No the one that could dunk on 2 or 3 guys, don't think he can do that on a some what regular bases. But not the broken down, no knees Wade.

I think some wheres in between. I don't think he will be dunking on a lot of people out side of put backs. But he's going to be able to get to the rim a lot and finish with a lot of contact at a high rate. His jumpshot will get better, not elite, but defenders will have to respect it, which is what will get him to the hoop a lot.

[Tr1boy]

Smart's the man

Anyone who actually watched him in college knows he can and will be a good shooter.

D wade V2.0               Hey i can dream right??

Dwade at 30-31. Dwade back in the day could dunk on 2 or 3 guys

No the one that could dunk on 2 or 3 guys, don't think he can do that on a some what regular bases. But not the broken down, no knees Wade.

I think some wheres in between. I don't think he will be dunking on a lot of people out side of put backs. But he's going to be able to get to the rim a lot and finish with a lot of contact at a high rate. His jumpshot will get better, not elite, but defenders will have to respect it, which is what will get him to the hoop a lot.

So thats why dwade at 30-31. Not todays version or the explosive one before

[lon3lytoaster]

Smart's the man

Anyone who actually watched him in college knows he can and will be a good shooter.

D wade V2.0               Hey i can dream right??

Dwade at 30-31. Dwade back in the day could dunk on 2 or 3 guys

D-Wade measured max vert at the combine? 35 inches.

Marcus Smart? 36.

What? People really like to find reasons to discredit MS.