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Let's manufacture some good old fashion cap space
« on: July 02, 2014, 09:29:56 PM »

Offline BudweiserCeltic

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Step 1:

Trade Jeff Green to Atlanta Hawks


Step 2:


Trade Brandon Bass to Charlotte Hornets


Step 3:

Decline all our team options (except rookies), and renounce everything (trade exceptions, bird rights, etc)


Step 4:

Stretch Gerald Wallace's contract ($4 million for 5 years)

Unless I did my math wrong, this should be able to leave us with about $25+ million of cap space to use this year (if salary cap estimates are correct)... unless I'm missing something that would prevent us from doing this.

Does Atlanta say no to adding Jeff Green to their squad? If they say no, would you include draft pick/picks?

Does Charlotte say no to adding Brandon Bass to their squad? If they say no, would you include draft pick/picks?

Who do you target? By my estimation, even if I'm not a fan of him, Carmelo Anthony is an intriguing target to add to our roster, particularly since you're left with no experience in the SF spot.

What do you think, is this an avenue worth exploring if it has even a 1% chance of happening?


What's preventing us from doing this? And if nothing is, would you go about doing it?

Of course, I'm not doing any of the above (except moving Brandon Bass part) unless I already have some sort of agreement with a free-agent.

Re: Let's manufacture some good old fashion cap space
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2014, 09:35:39 PM »

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For who though? Danny has already told free agent targets that if they want to come here, he'll make room. No point in clearing the cap until somebody better is seriously considering coming here. Otherwise, you end up like Dallas the last few years and giving up picks and your 2013 first rounder to get a worn down Tyson Chandler back.

Re: Let's manufacture some good old fashion cap space
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2014, 09:36:23 PM »

Offline BudweiserCeltic

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For who though? Danny has already told free agent targets that if they want to come here, he'll make room. No point in clearing the cap until somebody better is seriously considering coming here. Otherwise, you end up like Dallas the last few years and giving up picks and your 2013 first rounder to get a worn down Tyson Chandler back.

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Re: Let's manufacture some good old fashion cap space
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2014, 09:40:26 PM »

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what would Melo's motivation be when we just stripped our whole roster dry? Surely Houston is a better option with no state tax and the squad that they have?

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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2014, 09:41:37 PM »

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And why would Carmelo sign here? lol.
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Re: Let's manufacture some good old fashion cap space
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2014, 09:44:26 PM »

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what would Melo's motivation be when we just stripped our whole roster dry? Surely Houston is a better option with no state tax and the squad that they have?

We wouldn't have stripped our whole roster dry. We are only removing players that 1 are reduntant, and 2 are irrelevant.

The only positions left without depth would be the 3 spot, which Carmelo would fill, and the Center position (which is a problem anyways and has nothing to do with us gaining cap space).

All that said, how do you think Houston is gaining cap space in the first place?

Carmelo has expressed interest in playing with Rondo a multitude of times, so it's not as far fetched that he'd be interested in considering this as a destination for him if the option is there.

Re: Let's manufacture some good old fashion cap space
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2014, 09:45:05 PM »

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And why would Carmelo sign here? lol.

Why wouldn't he?

Re: Let's manufacture some good old fashion cap space
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2014, 09:54:03 PM »

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Melo wanted the Knicks to trade for Rondo because he wanted a better point guard. I don't think that necessarily means he has some strong desire to play alongside him. Surely you don't believe the Celtics are a better option than Houston? They are a playoff team in the west without Melo and we would be lucky to grab the 8th seed next season at this point.

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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2014, 09:54:33 PM »

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And why would Carmelo sign here? lol.

Why wouldn't he?

We just finished with one of the worst records in the East... And ended up getting the sixth pick...

End of the story.

Unless we get Love, why in gods name would Melo ever want to join a team that most likely is on the path to re-building..
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Re: Let's manufacture some good old fashion cap space
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2014, 09:59:39 PM »

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Melo wanted the Knicks to trade for Rondo because he wanted a better point guard. I don't think that Necessarily means he has some strong desire to play alongside him. Surely you don't believe the Celtics are a better option than Houston? They are a playoff team in the west without Melo and we would be lucky to grab the 8th seed next season at this point.

This isn't a thread about getting Melo. Melo was simply an example, and all of the above would be irrelevant if a free-agent doesn't agree before hand to come here.

Players have different motivations. Maybe Melo has no interest in playing with Dwight. Maybe he likes to come to Boston and be THE Man.

In any case, it's an hypothetical... if he doesn't come he doesn't come, you target someone else. In fact, I asked in the OP who YOU would target.

All that said, if all of you are resolute that max talent doesn't want to come to Boston, then I don't one to hear one more peep about how we're overpaying some players since obviously, having cap space would be a futile exercise.

And this Summer in 2014 might just be our best bet to acquire talent via free-agency. Next year, with the raise Rondo might be getting, it may be harder.

And if Rondo goes, then what's the point of going after another Max talent?

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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2014, 10:02:15 PM »

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And why would Carmelo sign here? lol.

Why wouldn't he?

We just finished with one of the worst records in the East... And ended up getting the sixth pick...

End of the story.

Unless we get Love, why in gods name would Melo ever want to join a team that most likely is on the path to re-building..

If Carmelo can't get this squad in to the playoffs and compete for a championship, then he's not worth having. And I'd find it very hard to believe.

Re: Let's manufacture some good old fashion cap space
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2014, 10:12:50 PM »

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He'd get us to to the finals just not the Conference finals, with the current roster. Aside from Kevin Love I don't see us signing a free agent to a max contract.

Re: Let's manufacture some good old fashion cap space
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2014, 10:17:33 PM »

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He'd get us to to the finals just not the Conference finals, with the current roster. Aside from Kevin Love I don't see us signing a free agent to a max contract.

Anyways, the point of the thread was to show that cap space is attainable. My choice of target is Carmelo, and I don't think that recruiting him if the desire is there would be all that far fetched. Heck, he's going to visit the Lakers... and where did they end up last year? And we have a better team than them currently hands down.

In any case, as mentioned the point was to show that cap space can be had in the case that anyone here has a free-agent in mind.

You want Hayward, this is how you peruse him. You want Monroe, this is how you go after him... unless a S&T occurs. But these two targets are riskier due to them being RFA.

Anyways, this is not a thread about getting Melo (except for those that want him), but just illustrating that the possibility is there to create enough space under the cap to get someone if the mutual interest exists.

Re: Let's manufacture some good old fashion cap space
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2014, 10:18:23 PM »

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It pains me to say this, but creating cap space in Boston means squat. Top players don't sign as free agents with the Celts. Every top player we get comes from the draft or a trade. When have the Celtics ever signed a blue chip free agent in their prime?

Lakers, Heat, Knicks, and even the Texas teams can create cap space and attract big names. We can't.

Re: Let's manufacture some good old fashion cap space
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2014, 10:22:21 PM »

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It pains me to say this, but creating cap space in Boston means squat. Top players don't sign as free agents with the Celts. Every top player we get comes from the draft or a trade. When have the Celtics ever signed a blue chip free agent in their prime?

Lakers, Heat, Knicks, and even the Texas teams can create cap space and attract big names. We can't.

Almost true, until you go to the specifics... when did Boston have the cap space to acquire anyone of note?