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Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #405 on: July 15, 2014, 07:29:07 PM »

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Considering the cost of veteran SGs this summer, that seems like a reasonable price.   Throw in the fact that Bradley is a lot younger than a lot of the others that just got bought on the market, and thus still is considered to have a lot of "upside", I'm not sure I buy the argument that it's an overpay.
Quite curious what you think the "cost of veteran SGs is". Jodie Meeks, who is perhaps the closest comparison, got $6.3 million per over 3 seasons. Guys like Jordan Farmar, DJ Augustin, and Ben Gordon got signed for fractions of Bradley's salary. A handful of players (Lowry, Hayward) got extremely rich contracts, but I don't think Bradley is close to any of them.

SG is traditionally the easiest position to man in the NBA. Bradley is a nice little player, but given his current skills and injury history, he's not worth $7-8 million per, unless he improves considerably over the life of this contract.

I know "I think he's going to" is not an argument, but.. I think he's going to.

Bradley seems to consciously work on his game every offseason, and has been held back repeatedly by freak injuries. I know that he's toeing the line between "needs to get a break healthwise" and "injury-prone," but when giving him the benefit of the doubt, he easily could be a 20 ppg guy in a year or two. Plus he's an above average to great defender.

Just don't put him in a ballhandling position and he'll flourish.

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #406 on: July 15, 2014, 07:44:18 PM »

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Forsberg's most recent tweet about Bradley's signing has Ainge echoing pretty similar sentiments:

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C's formally announce Avery Bradley's signing. Quote from Danny Ainge in release: "We see Avery as a key part of our chase of Banner 18," said Danny Ainge, Celtics President of Basketball Operations. "He keeps getting better and is still far from reaching his ceiling. We're ecstatic to have him back."

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #407 on: July 15, 2014, 07:49:00 PM »

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and people think rondo ISN'T on a great contract and worth a lot more $$

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #408 on: July 15, 2014, 08:27:56 PM »

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Considering the cost of veteran SGs this summer, that seems like a reasonable price.   Throw in the fact that Bradley is a lot younger than a lot of the others that just got bought on the market, and thus still is considered to have a lot of "upside", I'm not sure I buy the argument that it's an overpay.
Quite curious what you think the "cost of veteran SGs is". Jodie Meeks, who is perhaps the closest comparison, got $6.3 million per over 3 seasons. Guys like Jordan Farmar, DJ Augustin, and Ben Gordon got signed for fractions of Bradley's salary. A handful of players (Lowry, Hayward) got extremely rich contracts, but I don't think Bradley is close to any of them.

SG is traditionally the easiest position to man in the NBA. Bradley is a nice little player, but given his current skills and injury history, he's not worth $7-8 million per, unless he improves considerably over the life of this contract.

I know "I think he's going to" is not an argument, but.. I think he's going to.

Bradley seems to consciously work on his game every offseason, and has been held back repeatedly by freak injuries. I know that he's toeing the line between "needs to get a break healthwise" and "injury-prone," but when giving him the benefit of the doubt, he easily could be a 20 ppg guy in a year or two. Plus he's an above average to great defender.

Just don't put him in a ballhandling position and he'll flourish.

For the Celtic's the contract isn't great but it also isn't terrible IMO. I wish they had some kind of games played clause because like it or not, "freak injury" or not Bradly has been injury prone. I like that he's improved his shooting, lets hope he applies the same work ethic to improving other parts of his game.
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Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #409 on: July 16, 2014, 10:49:39 AM »

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Considering the cost of veteran SGs this summer, that seems like a reasonable price.   Throw in the fact that Bradley is a lot younger than a lot of the others that just got bought on the market, and thus still is considered to have a lot of "upside", I'm not sure I buy the argument that it's an overpay.
Quite curious what you think the "cost of veteran SGs is". Jodie Meeks, who is perhaps the closest comparison, got $6.3 million per over 3 seasons. Guys like Jordan Farmar, DJ Augustin, and Ben Gordon got signed for fractions of Bradley's salary. A handful of players (Lowry, Hayward) got extremely rich contracts, but I don't think Bradley is close to any of them.

SG is traditionally the easiest position to man in the NBA. Bradley is a nice little player, but given his current skills and injury history, he's not worth $7-8 million per, unless he improves considerably over the life of this contract.

I know "I think he's going to" is not an argument, but.. I think he's going to.

Bradley seems to consciously work on his game every offseason, and has been held back repeatedly by freak injuries. I know that he's toeing the line between "needs to get a break healthwise" and "injury-prone," but when giving him the benefit of the doubt, he easily could be a 20 ppg guy in a year or two. Plus he's an above average to great defender.

Just don't put him in a ballhandling position and he'll flourish.
That's not the point. I've already conceded that you're paying for potential here, hoping that Bradley will perhaps turn into a $12 million player towards the end of his contract.

The question is to the people who think that Bradley's contract is fair right now based on what other SGs have gone for. I'm really curious who are those guards who have set the market for Bradley, as I couldn't find much in terms of done deals.

Also, Bradley is squarely in the injury prone category. His injuries aren't freak accidents where he gets whacked or collides with someone -- no, he breaks down from regular wear and tear, and that's pretty disheartening.
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Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #410 on: July 16, 2014, 11:08:30 AM »

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as far as Bradley's contract goes. as much as I do think it was too much for him, trying to look on the bright side of it I tend to think maybe Ainge figures this rebuild will take about 3 yr's and by that time AB will be in his final yr. of the contract making him an expiring contract/asset possibly.

Re: Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract
« Reply #411 on: July 16, 2014, 11:16:47 AM »

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as far as Bradley's contract goes. as much as I do think it was too much for him, trying to look on the bright side of it I tend to think maybe Ainge figures this rebuild will take about 3 yr's and by that time AB will be in his final yr. of the contract making him an expiring contract/asset possibly.
If Ainge thought the process will take longer than 3 years, he probably would have saved his money.
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