Avery Bradley & Celtics Agree to 4-year, $32 million contract

[BleedGreen1989]

@brohrbach | 14 min 14 sec ago | Avery Bradley contract structure, per @EricPincus: $7.2M in 2014-15, $7.7M in '15-16, $8.3M in '16-17, $8.8M in '17-18. Plans to sign today.

With the new tv contract coming into play in a couple of years and the silly season stuff we've seen this off-season, this contract doesn't look bad at all as long as AB can maintain some health.

$8.8 in 2017 will not look that bad.

Agreed. I like the way it's structured.

[saltlover]

@brohrbach | 14 min 14 sec ago | Avery Bradley contract structure, per @EricPincus: $7.2M in 2014-15, $7.7M in '15-16, $8.3M in '16-17, $8.8M in '17-18. Plans to sign today.

With the new tv contract coming into play in a couple of years and the silly season stuff we've seen this off-season, this contract doesn't look bad at all as long as AB can maintain some health.

$8.8 in 2017 will not look that bad.

Disappointed in this structure.  It would have been much better to front load this deal, especially given we're not title contending this year.  If the contract gave Avery max decreases instead of max increases, the difference in 2017, when there could be a surge of cap room, was $1.8 million.  Ainge really needs to pay more now to pay less later, and create room in the future.

[Fafnir]

@brohrbach | 14 min 14 sec ago | Avery Bradley contract structure, per @EricPincus: $7.2M in 2014-15, $7.7M in '15-16, $8.3M in '16-17, $8.8M in '17-18. Plans to sign today.

With the new tv contract coming into play in a couple of years and the silly season stuff we've seen this off-season, this contract doesn't look bad at all as long as AB can maintain some health.

$8.8 in 2017 will not look that bad.

Disappointed in this structure.  It would have been much better to front load this deal, especially given we're not title contending this year.  If the contract gave Avery max decreases instead of max increases, the difference in 2017, when there could be a surge of cap room, was $1.8 million.  Ainge really needs to pay more now to pay less later, and create room in the future.

That would compromise 2015 cap space which is the short term option Ainge has setup.

2017 is far enough way to plan around that extra 1.5 million. Plus you have it entirely wrong if the cap surges that much the difference becomes far less significant as its a small percentage of the cap.

[BudweiserCeltic]

@brohrbach | 14 min 14 sec ago | Avery Bradley contract structure, per @EricPincus: $7.2M in 2014-15, $7.7M in '15-16, $8.3M in '16-17, $8.8M in '17-18. Plans to sign today.

With the new tv contract coming into play in a couple of years and the silly season stuff we've seen this off-season, this contract doesn't look bad at all as long as AB can maintain some health.

$8.8 in 2017 will not look that bad.

Agreed. I like the way it's structured.

I think the premise of that tweet is wrong. I'm pretty sure Eric Pincus doesn't have yet the details of deal yet, but did an educated guess. At least that's what he did when he first put the figures up, not sure if anything has changed from now until then and looking at Pincus' time line I don't see any sort of announcement on that regard.

Not saying that it's wrong, or that it's not close close to it, but I think using that source of how the contract is structured is a bit in doubt right now.

I may be wrong, but that's currently my perception of it.

[Donoghus]

@brohrbach | 14 min 14 sec ago | Avery Bradley contract structure, per @EricPincus: $7.2M in 2014-15, $7.7M in '15-16, $8.3M in '16-17, $8.8M in '17-18. Plans to sign today.

With the new tv contract coming into play in a couple of years and the silly season stuff we've seen this off-season, this contract doesn't look bad at all as long as AB can maintain some health.

$8.8 in 2017 will not look that bad.

Disappointed in this structure.  It would have been much better to front load this deal, especially given we're not title contending this year.  If the contract gave Avery max decreases instead of max increases, the difference in 2017, when there could be a surge of cap room, was $1.8 million.  Ainge really needs to pay more now to pay less later, and create room in the future.

That would compromise 2015 cap space which is the short term option Ainge has setup.

2017 is far enough way to plan around that extra 1.5 million. Plus you have it entirely wrong if the cap surges that much the difference becomes far less significant as its a small percentage of the cap.

Given some of the silly season contracts thrown around this off-season, a $1.5-1.8 million dollar difference under the impending new CBA is something I can swallow & live with.  Certainly when compared to some of these cap hits that will be coming with guys like Parsons & Hayward and the ilk.

[saltlover]

@brohrbach | 14 min 14 sec ago | Avery Bradley contract structure, per @EricPincus: $7.2M in 2014-15, $7.7M in '15-16, $8.3M in '16-17, $8.8M in '17-18. Plans to sign today.

With the new tv contract coming into play in a couple of years and the silly season stuff we've seen this off-season, this contract doesn't look bad at all as long as AB can maintain some health.

$8.8 in 2017 will not look that bad.

Disappointed in this structure.  It would have been much better to front load this deal, especially given we're not title contending this year.  If the contract gave Avery max decreases instead of max increases, the difference in 2017, when there could be a surge of cap room, was $1.8 million.  Ainge really needs to pay more now to pay less later, and create room in the future.

That would compromise 2015 cap space which is the short term option Ainge has setup.

2017 is far enough way to plan around that extra 1.5 million. Plus you have it entirely wrong if the cap surges that much the difference becomes far less significant as its a small percentage of the cap.

It would compromise it by a whopping $600k.  And if Ainge made a habit of offering decreasing contracts, it wouldn't matter anyway.

Besides, if 2015 were so important, Ainge could have structured it as follows:

2014: $8 mil
2015: $7.4 mil
2016: $8 mil
2017: $8.6 mil

That would have made every year in the future, except for this year, have a lower value than the reported structure.

[Fafnir]

@brohrbach | 14 min 14 sec ago | Avery Bradley contract structure, per @EricPincus: $7.2M in 2014-15, $7.7M in '15-16, $8.3M in '16-17, $8.8M in '17-18. Plans to sign today.

With the new tv contract coming into play in a couple of years and the silly season stuff we've seen this off-season, this contract doesn't look bad at all as long as AB can maintain some health.

$8.8 in 2017 will not look that bad.

Disappointed in this structure.  It would have been much better to front load this deal, especially given we're not title contending this year.  If the contract gave Avery max decreases instead of max increases, the difference in 2017, when there could be a surge of cap room, was $1.8 million.  Ainge really needs to pay more now to pay less later, and create room in the future.

That would compromise 2015 cap space which is the short term option Ainge has setup.

2017 is far enough way to plan around that extra 1.5 million. Plus you have it entirely wrong if the cap surges that much the difference becomes far less significant as its a small percentage of the cap.

It would compromise it by a whopping $600k.  And if Ainge made a habit of offering decreasing contracts, it wouldn't matter anyway.

For someone who's so very concerned by 1800k you're very dismissive of a "whopping" 600k.

[saltlover]

@brohrbach | 14 min 14 sec ago | Avery Bradley contract structure, per @EricPincus: $7.2M in 2014-15, $7.7M in '15-16, $8.3M in '16-17, $8.8M in '17-18. Plans to sign today.

With the new tv contract coming into play in a couple of years and the silly season stuff we've seen this off-season, this contract doesn't look bad at all as long as AB can maintain some health.

$8.8 in 2017 will not look that bad.

Disappointed in this structure.  It would have been much better to front load this deal, especially given we're not title contending this year.  If the contract gave Avery max decreases instead of max increases, the difference in 2017, when there could be a surge of cap room, was $1.8 million.  Ainge really needs to pay more now to pay less later, and create room in the future.

That would compromise 2015 cap space which is the short term option Ainge has setup.

2017 is far enough way to plan around that extra 1.5 million. Plus you have it entirely wrong if the cap surges that much the difference becomes far less significant as its a small percentage of the cap.

It would compromise it by a whopping $600k.  And if Ainge made a habit of offering decreasing contracts, it wouldn't matter anyway.

For someone who's so very concerned by 1800k you're very dismissive of a "whopping" 600k.

You know, I made my point in the rest of my post that you didn't quote.  A little annoying if people jump into the conversation.

Again, my point was a) Danny should in general offer decreasing long-term contracts rather than increasing ones, which he has not done, and compromises future potential cap space at the expense of present cap space which he is not using.  And b) I don't think Danny actually cared about 2015 cap space in this contract, as if he had, he could have structured it in a way that saved more in 2015 than he has.

That said, if Bogans, Babb, and Johnson are released, while Pressey is retained, the Celtics will have $5.26 million to spare before they hit the luxury tax.  The MLE is $5.305 million.  So if Danny is doing this to sign someone worthwhile with almost all of the MLE and stay under the tax, I'm on board.  Otherwise, I think it's short-sighted.

[LooseCannon]

I think Ainge generally doesn't plan on using cap space.  He would prefer to preserve salary slots and make a trade.

[Donoghus]

I think Ainge generally doesn't plan on using cap space.  He would prefer to preserve salary slots and make a trade.

With the current roster sort of being a smorgaboard of mismatched pieces, I would tend to agree.

[nickagneta]

@brohrbach | 14 min 14 sec ago | Avery Bradley contract structure, per @EricPincus: $7.2M in 2014-15, $7.7M in '15-16, $8.3M in '16-17, $8.8M in '17-18. Plans to sign today.

Almost the exact way I said it would be structured. $7.2 million a year for Bradley next year is a good fair price. With any development in his game and the salary cap expected to increase by quite a bit over the next couple seasons, this contract is extremely reasonable and not the albatross others have found it to be.

[Chris22]

I think signing Bradley is a huge mistake.
Just like Bass, he's not worth the money.

[Snakehead]

@brohrbach | 14 min 14 sec ago | Avery Bradley contract structure, per @EricPincus: $7.2M in 2014-15, $7.7M in '15-16, $8.3M in '16-17, $8.8M in '17-18. Plans to sign today.

Almost the exact way I said it would be structured. $7.2 million a year for Bradley next year is a good fair price. With any development in his game and the salary cap expected to increase by quite a bit over the next couple seasons, this contract is extremely reasonable and not the albatross others have found it to be.

I agree.

Watching how the market played out after Avery signed (and even before) I think the deal is fair.

[D.o.s.]

I think signing Bradley is a huge mistake.
Just like Bass, he's not worth the money.

You are aware of the salary floor, I take it?

[Chris22]

I think signing Bradley is a huge mistake.
Just like Bass, he's not worth the money.

You are aware of the salary floor, I take it?

Yes.