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Re: Rumor: Rondo wants max extension
« Reply #105 on: August 04, 2014, 08:19:35 PM »

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Re: Rumor: Rondo wants max extension
« Reply #106 on: August 04, 2014, 08:21:21 PM »

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Why does this surprise any of you? The awesome thing is that the usual suspects around here want to pay a ROLE PLAYER like Rondo, max dollars. He is severely overrated and Ainge needs to do the right thing now and trade him for whatever value the Celtics can get.
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I mean so many role players get triple doubles more often than most other players in the NBA, right?

He's the Fat Lever of our generation.

In 11 NBA seasons Lever averaged:
13.9 ppg
6.0 rpg
6.2 apg
2.0 spg
2.0 tov
44.7 fg
77.1 ft
31.7 mpg
43 Triple Doubles

In 8 NBA seasons Rondo has averaged:
11.1 ppg
4.6 rpg
8.4 apg
1.9 spg
2.8 tov
47.5 fg
62.1 ft
33.0 mpg
18 Triple Doubles

So what you are you trying to say? That Rondo's a role player?

Merely comparing the similar stats of two players who played the same position. Do you think Lever was a role player?

Re: Rumor: Rondo wants max extension
« Reply #107 on: August 04, 2014, 08:44:04 PM »

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A max contract for Rondo would be a worse contract than Gerald Wallace's.   ;D
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Re: Rumor: Rondo wants max extension
« Reply #108 on: August 04, 2014, 08:48:27 PM »

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Rondo is def worth 5 million a year more then Gordan Hayward and Chandler parsons. Neither all all stars, neither make an impact on the game like Rondo does. Yet they just got contracts that they will average a little around 13-15 million per year.

Rondo deserves a max contract of around 18-20 per. Now does our team need Rondo getting paid close to 20 mill per and be championship contenders?

Still hard to determine.

Re: Rumor: Rondo wants max extension
« Reply #109 on: August 04, 2014, 09:01:27 PM »

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Fat Lever, that's hilarious.  But its unfair to Fat.  Fat was better.  TP Eddie20

Wasn't Lever hurt all the time, though?  Durability has to factor in somewhere in this comparison, or perhaps not.

Re: Rumor: Rondo wants max extension
« Reply #110 on: August 04, 2014, 09:04:30 PM »

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Rondo isn't even a good player - he's a fringe player that is lucky to be in the league.

Really? ::)

Re: Rumor: Rondo wants max extension
« Reply #111 on: August 04, 2014, 09:06:08 PM »

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Don't think Lever was ever the passer or finisher near the rim that Rondo is. Certainly a better rebounder and shooter though.

Rondo isn't even a good player - he's a fringe player that is lucky to be in the league.

Really? ::)
Think he may be being sarcastic.

Re: Rumor: Rondo wants max extension
« Reply #112 on: August 04, 2014, 09:07:44 PM »

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Rondo is def worth 5 million a year more then Gordan Hayward and Chandler parsons. Neither all all stars, neither make an impact on the game like Rondo does. Yet they just got contracts that they will average a little around 13-15 million per year.

Rondo deserves a max contract of around 18-20 per. Now does our team need Rondo getting paid close to 20 mill per and be championship contenders?

Still hard to determine.

Using those contracts to try and justify a max for Rondo is kind of making the opposite of your point aswell.

Teams overpaid for those players. Another 5 million on top for Rondo is kind of overpaying aswell.


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Re: Rumor: Rondo wants max extension
« Reply #113 on: August 04, 2014, 09:09:29 PM »

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Fat Lever, that's hilarious.  But its unfair to Fat.  Fat was better.  TP Eddie20

Wasn't Lever hurt all the time, though?  Durability has to factor in somewhere in this comparison, or perhaps not.
and Rondo is a picture of health?
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Re: Rumor: Rondo wants max extension
« Reply #114 on: August 04, 2014, 09:12:46 PM »

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Rondo is def worth 5 million a year more then Gordan Hayward and Chandler parsons. Neither all all stars, neither make an impact on the game like Rondo does. Yet they just got contracts that they will average a little around 13-15 million per year.

Rondo deserves a max contract of around 18-20 per. Now does our team need Rondo getting paid close to 20 mill per and be championship contenders?

Still hard to determine.

Using those contracts to try and justify a max for Rondo is kind of making the opposite of your point aswell.

Teams overpaid for those players. Another 5 million on top for Rondo is kind of overpaying aswell.

If rondo comes back to his form which is averaging a double double and having multiple triple doubles, there's no doubt he's worth 17-20 million per. Like I said it all setermines if we are going to be a contender the year after this one.

Danny is not paying rondo that if we cannot bring in a key piece and get rid of Gerald Wallace.

If we bring in a Marc gasol through free agency or a player of that nature, I can see us resigning Rondo to a 3 year deal 17 per average.

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Re: Rumor: Rondo wants max extension
« Reply #115 on: August 04, 2014, 09:14:55 PM »

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Rondo is def worth 5 million a year more then Gordan Hayward and Chandler parsons. Neither all all stars, neither make an impact on the game like Rondo does. Yet they just got contracts that they will average a little around 13-15 million per year.

Rondo deserves a max contract of around 18-20 per. Now does our team need Rondo getting paid close to 20 mill per and be championship contenders?

Still hard to determine.

Using those contracts to try and justify a max for Rondo is kind of making the opposite of your point aswell.

Teams overpaid for those players. Another 5 million on top for Rondo is kind of overpaying aswell.

If rondo comes back to his form which is averaging a double double and having multiple triple doubles, there's no doubt he's worth 17-20 million per. Like I said it all setermines if we are going to be a contender the year after this one.

Danny is not paying rondo that if we cannot bring in a key piece and get rid of Gerald Wallace.

If we bring in a Marc gasol through free agency or a player of that nature, I can see us resigning Rondo to a 3 year deal 17 per average.

Rondo/Smart
Avery
Player
Olynyk
Gasol
Rondo is not worth 17-20 million.  He just isn't.  If he gets back to form then 14-15 million I could live with, but more than that is a significant overpay.
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Re: Rumor: Rondo wants max extension
« Reply #116 on: August 04, 2014, 09:19:50 PM »

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Rondo is def worth 5 million a year more then Gordan Hayward and Chandler parsons. Neither all all stars, neither make an impact on the game like Rondo does. Yet they just got contracts that they will average a little around 13-15 million per year.

Rondo deserves a max contract of around 18-20 per. Now does our team need Rondo getting paid close to 20 mill per and be championship contenders?

Still hard to determine.

Using those contracts to try and justify a max for Rondo is kind of making the opposite of your point aswell.

Teams overpaid for those players. Another 5 million on top for Rondo is kind of overpaying aswell.

If rondo comes back to his form which is averaging a double double and having multiple triple doubles, there's no doubt he's worth 17-20 million per. Like I said it all setermines if we are going to be a contender the year after this one.

Danny is not paying rondo that if we cannot bring in a key piece and get rid of Gerald Wallace.

If we bring in a Marc gasol through free agency or a player of that nature, I can see us resigning Rondo to a 3 year deal 17 per average.

Rondo/Smart
Avery
Player
Olynyk
Gasol
Rondo is not worth 17-20 million.  He just isn't.  If he gets back to form then 14-15 million I could live with, but more than that is a significant overpay.

This is pretty much where I'm at aswell.


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Re: Rumor: Rondo wants max extension
« Reply #117 on: August 04, 2014, 10:11:19 PM »

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Don't think Lever was ever the passer or finisher near the rim that Rondo is. Certainly a better rebounder and shooter though.

Rondo isn't even a good player - he's a fringe player that is lucky to be in the league.

Really? ::)
Think he may be being sarcastic.

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Re: Rumor: Rondo wants max extension
« Reply #118 on: August 04, 2014, 10:11:52 PM »

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Rondo is #10 on the all-time assists/game list. He'll likely pass Nash, Kidd, and Deron Williams over the next few years to be #7.

He's the best passer currently in the game besides Chris Paul.

People can't admit it, but Rondo is 100% a max player and will go down in history as one of the best passers of all time.

The only problem is that he might not fit with our team as currently constructed, and to the Celtics may not be worth the max.


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Re: Rumor: Rondo wants max extension
« Reply #119 on: August 04, 2014, 10:14:41 PM »

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Rondo is #10 on the all-time assists/game list. He'll likely pass Nash, Kidd, and Deron Williams over the next few years to be #7.

He's the best passer currently in the game besides Chris Paul.

People can't admit it, but Rondo is 100% a max player and will go down in history as one of the best passers of all time.

The only problem is that he might not fit with our team as currently constructed, and to the Celtics may not be worth the max.


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Saying "the max" makes it seem like there's a one-size-fits-all "max contract," which there isn't. Anyone who's given the CBA even a cursory read knows that.

I agree about the passing and the assists -- but I think Rondo's a better passer than CP3.
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