Shoulda released Humph and Bayless

[winsomme]

This is where Danny dropped the ball IMO. These guys are UFAs yet were winning games for us late into the season.

Just didn't make sense to keep them and it cost us in terms of draft position. One spot up and we're in position to land Exum who could have been the piece to convince Minny to send KLove our way.

I honestly am not sure why Danny didn't release those guys. I guess he thought he might use them in S&Ts but not at the cost of draft position!!!

I have been a huge DA fan, but to have suffered through this season and then not go after the prize picks....Big misstep. Magic dumped Big Baby, Philly dumped Granger. There just was no reason to have kept Bayless and Humph. They were nice players for us, but that was the problem. A little too nice.

Now we're facing losing our franchise PG and being bad for who knows how long.

[NorthernLightning]

Smart is right there with Exum as a prospect. Exum benefited from being unknown and under-scrutinized, while Smart was picked apart a bit.

You don't really know what you're talking about, or what we have with Smart, or you wouldn't create a sour grapes thread like this.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Ah.. another we didn't tank hard enough thread...

I'll tune in to see if it gets new never seen before content.

[winsomme]

Smart is right there with Exum as a prospect. Exum benefited from being unknown and under-scrutinized, while Smart was picked apart a bit.

You don't really know what you're talking about, or what we have with Smart, or you wouldn't create a sour grapes thread like this.

This isn't sour grapes. This is something I argued for during the season.

As far as Smart being better than Exum, that could very well be the case. But is he better than Rondo? Because that is the next guy on the chopping block.

I actually like Smart and think he could be a great player. But I don't want him at the expense of Rondo who I KNOW is a great player and a player that could attract big time players to play with him. If Danny had the chips to get KLove, the Cs would be a destination. But we just don't have the chips.

Many argued that we had plenty of chips to get Love, but as it turns out, the main chip was our #1 pick and it just wasn't good enough. This has been documented by some the most reliable reporters including Woj.

It's not sour grapes when you argued for something all along. Danny dropped the ball here, and it's not entirely clear why.

[Sketch5]

We could have gotten the 3rd to 4th best player in the draft. Exum, who knows, not much competition to show how good he was before the draft. Ebiid, who knows if he'll be able to stay on the floor. And Wiggins could be Jeff Green at the end of the day.

DA knew this and kept what he could for assets. IF some how Love or Melo comes to Boston, Humps and Bayless are great pieces to have if you're going to make a run in the playoffs.

Also DA traded Lee for Bayless to free up some money this season. That's a good move.

[winsomme]

Ah.. another we didn't tank hard enough thread...

I'll tune in to see if it gets new never seen before content.

So leading up to the draft, it's been "just you wait and see" and now one day after it's come to fruition it's "enough with the complaining already"?

Um, no. Now is exactly the time to complain. The thing many have been pointing out much of the season finally hits and now the people rebuffing all along don't want to hear it?

The "we didn't tank hard enough" complaint may not be new, but the clarity of our prospects of being a good team any time soon couldn't be newer.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Ah.. another we didn't tank hard enough thread...

I'll tune in to see if it gets new never seen before content.

So leading up to the draft, it's been "just you wait and see" and now one day after it's come to fruition it's "enough with the complaining already"?

Um, no. Now is exactly the time to complain. The thing many have been pointing out much of the season finally hits and now the people rebuffing all along don't want to hear it?

The "we didn't tank hard enough" complaint may not be new, but the clarity of our prospects of being a good team any time soon couldn't be newer.

Well, I'm extremely happy with Smart, he was the guy I wanted. And as history has once again shown, having the worst record in the league doesn't guarantee the first pick. So even if we ended up with the 4th or 5th pick, Smart would still be the guy I wanted.

And my comment was towards a repetition of the same content in these threads, and the need for people to start their own thread to post their opinions of matters that are being discussed in 20 other threads.

So with that said, I'll sit back and enjoy what is going to be posted in this thread... hopefully something not being discussed elsewhere, but I'm not keeping my hopes up.

[BballTim]

This is where Danny dropped the ball IMO. These guys are UFAs yet were winning games for us late into the season.

Just didn't make sense to keep them and it cost us in terms of draft position. One spot up and we're in position to land Exum who could have been the piece to convince Minny to send KLove our way.

  There's no evidence that Exum will be better than Smart, or that he would have somehow tipped the scales in terms of Love.

[Celtics18]

Smart is right there with Exum as a prospect. Exum benefited from being unknown and under-scrutinized, while Smart was picked apart a bit.

You don't really know what you're talking about, or what we have with Smart, or you wouldn't create a sour grapes thread like this.

This isn't sour grapes. This is something I argued for during the season.

As far as Smart being better than Exum, that could very well be the case. But is he better than Rondo? Because that is the next guy on the chopping block.

I actually like Smart and think he could be a great player. But I don't want him at the expense of Rondo who I KNOW is a great player and a player that could attract big time players to play with him. If Danny had the chips to get KLove, the Cs would be a destination. But we just don't have the chips.

Many argued that we had plenty of chips to get Love, but as it turns out, the main chip was our #1 pick and it just wasn't good enough. This has been documented by some the most reliable reporters including Woj.

It's not sour grapes when you argued for something all along. Danny dropped the ball here, and it's not entirely clear why.

You seem to be changing your tune a little bit here.  You are admitting that Smart could be as good as or better than Exum, yet you are saying Danny blew it by not getting the team in a position to land Exum?

Would a fourth or a fifth pick really have made that much of a difference?  I don't think so. 

[NorthernLightning]

It's not sour grapes when you argued for something all along. Danny dropped the ball here, and it's not entirely clear why.

Just stubborn pride, I guess. Pointless, stubborn pride. What do you want, a petition or a march on Danny's office?

Why not consider that Smart and Rondo might make the best back court in the NBA?

We have tons of bigs that can stretch the floor, leaving the lane wide open for both Smart and Rondo to do damage inside. Smart can even post guards up, like at will.

So fix that front-wedgie and turn that frown upside down.

[winsomme]

This is where Danny dropped the ball IMO. These guys are UFAs yet were winning games for us late into the season.

Just didn't make sense to keep them and it cost us in terms of draft position. One spot up and we're in position to land Exum who could have been the piece to convince Minny to send KLove our way.

  There's no evidence that Exum will be better than Smart, or that he would have somehow tipped the scales in terms of Love.

There is evidence that our pick was not high enough to entice Minny.

[MBunge]

Um, no. Now is exactly the time to complain. The thing many have been pointing out much of the season finally hits and now the people rebuffing all along don't want to hear it?

How is NOW the time to complain?  5 years from now, Smart and young could be all stars while Wiggins is Jeff Green 2.0, Parker is another David Lee and Embiid is retired due to injury.

Mike

[winsomme]

Ah.. another we didn't tank hard enough thread...

I'll tune in to see if it gets new never seen before content.

So leading up to the draft, it's been "just you wait and see" and now one day after it's come to fruition it's "enough with the complaining already"?

Um, no. Now is exactly the time to complain. The thing many have been pointing out much of the season finally hits and now the people rebuffing all along don't want to hear it?

The "we didn't tank hard enough" complaint may not be new, but the clarity of our prospects of being a good team any time soon couldn't be newer.

Well, I'm extremely happy with Smart, he was the guy I wanted. And as history has once again shown, having the worst record in the league doesn't guarantee the first pick. So even if we ended up with the 4th or 5th pick, Smart would still be the guy I wanted.

And my comment was towards a repetition of the same content in these threads, and the need for people to start their own thread to post their opinions of matters that are being discussed in 20 other threads.

So with that said, I'll sit back and enjoy what is going to be posted in this thread... hopefully something not being discussed elsewhere, but I'm not keeping my hopes up.

You know who you could have drafted with the 4th or 5th pick? Smart. But you know who we couldn't trade for with the 6th pick? KLove.

Look if Rondo stays here and continues to build with this team, I'll be the first to admit I was wrong. But I'm certainly not going to hide when the things I was worried about happening start happening.

The next shoe to drop IMO is Rondo getting moved and that would be a very sad day for me as a Cs fan.

[winsomme]

Um, no. Now is exactly the time to complain. The thing many have been pointing out much of the season finally hits and now the people rebuffing all along don't want to hear it?

How is NOW the time to complain?  5 years from now, Smart and young could be all stars while Wiggins is Jeff Green 2.0, Parker is another David Lee and Embiid is retired due to injury.

Mike

Because now is the point where the plan to build around Rondo is falling apart. Plus, we know Danny preferred other players. He confirmed his efforts to grab the #1 pick today.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Ah.. another we didn't tank hard enough thread...

I'll tune in to see if it gets new never seen before content.

So leading up to the draft, it's been "just you wait and see" and now one day after it's come to fruition it's "enough with the complaining already"?

Um, no. Now is exactly the time to complain. The thing many have been pointing out much of the season finally hits and now the people rebuffing all along don't want to hear it?

The "we didn't tank hard enough" complaint may not be new, but the clarity of our prospects of being a good team any time soon couldn't be newer.

Well, I'm extremely happy with Smart, he was the guy I wanted. And as history has once again shown, having the worst record in the league doesn't guarantee the first pick. So even if we ended up with the 4th or 5th pick, Smart would still be the guy I wanted.

And my comment was towards a repetition of the same content in these threads, and the need for people to start their own thread to post their opinions of matters that are being discussed in 20 other threads.

So with that said, I'll sit back and enjoy what is going to be posted in this thread... hopefully something not being discussed elsewhere, but I'm not keeping my hopes up.

You know who you could have drafted with the 4th or 5th pick? Smart. But you know who we couldn't trade for with the 6th pick? KLove.

Look if Rondo stays here and continues to build with this team, I'll be the first to admit I was wrong. But I'm certainly not going to hide when the things I was worried about happening start happening.

The next shoe to drop IMO is Rondo getting moved and that would be a very sad day for me as a Cs fan.

I wanted Love, but having a higher pick is also not an indicator that the trade would've happened, and even then I'm quite wary of the value we'd have going out to get him when he's mentioned he won't opt-in or sign an extension to the team he's being sent.

It's a huge gamble to take him on just for the prayer that he remains with us after next season.

For all I know, having the 6th pick saved us from going two steps backwards in our rebuilding process.

I'm quite high on what a Rondo-Smart pairing could accomplish, and even more so if we retain Avery Bradley.

We have a ton of assets to play with, doesn't mean we should overpay right now for anyone, particularly when 2015 is when the team will have the biggest opportunity, and at lower risks and cost, to get the real help for our roster.