After the draft- do we have the best assets to trade for Kevin Love?

[chambers]

So if Minnesota wants anything for Love, should we assume they have about a month to do this- assuming that teams want Love for the whole season.
Remember also, that the Celtics traded for Kevin Garnett over a month after the2007 NBA draft.

If we speculate that there are 3 teams competing for Love being Chicago, Boston and Golden State, it's now laid out on the table and we know what young players are there to choose from if they want to take someone.
I feel like it's hurt their flexibility, but also helped define what they can realistically get back- but has that increased our chances?

* The Chicago picks are gone. But McDermott is there with Gibson, Mirotic or Snell.

* The Celtics 2014 picks are gone. But Marcus Smart is there with Young, Sully or Olynyk and the Brooklyn/Clippers/Celtics /Philly picks.

*Thompson and Lee are still there from GSW

There are two paths here for the Wolves; the rebuild from ground up, or the re-tool and fight for the playoffs.

What do you think?

[gpap]

I like where you're headed.

I'd like to hope so!

Also, don't forget after July 1st, we can also use a sign and trade of Bradley as another trade chip and agree to take back Kevin Martin's contract, so maybe that helps.

By the way, that Zach Lavine kid did not look happy that he was being drafted by Minny.

Can't say I blame him

[JOMVP]

The Celtics still have the best long term assets to offer Minnesota, but I think its pretty obvious that Flip Saunders is an extremely stubborn, ignoramus.

At this point, the only way the Celtics get love is to sign him as a free agent in 2015. However, whatever team trades for Love is probably going to get him to sign an extension, so its probably over. Not completely over, but pretty much a long shot.

I think Danny Ainge understands this. He tried. I think he goes into this season looking for another lottery pick and hoping Smart, Young, KO, Sullinger develop into real players.

If he can trade Gerald Wallace's contract somehow, we will be real players in the 2015 free agency.

[knuckleballer]

I like where you're headed.

I'd like to hope so!

Also, don't forget after July 1st, we can also use a sign and trade of Bradley as another trade chip and agree to take back Kevin Martin's contract, so maybe that helps.

By the way, that Zach Lavine kid did not look happy that he was being drafted by Minny.

Can't say I blame him

Lavine did not look happy at all.  http://thebiglead.com/2014/06/26/did-zach-lavine-say-eff-me-when-he-was-picked-by-minnesota/

It would be awful to be a Wolves fan.  Your best player wants out and now your first round pick acts like that when drafted.  It's hilarious to me, but terrible for them.

[chambers]

I like where you're headed.

I'd like to hope so!

Also, don't forget after July 1st, we can also use a sign and trade of Bradley as another trade chip and agree to take back Kevin Martin's contract, so maybe that helps.

By the way, that Zach Lavine kid did not look happy that he was being drafted by Minny.

Can't say I blame him

Lavine did not look happy at all.  http://thebiglead.com/2014/06/26/did-zach-lavine-say-eff-me-when-he-was-picked-by-minnesota/

It would be awful to be a Wolves fan.  Your best player wants out and now your first round pick acts like that when drafted.  It's hilarious to me, but terrible for them.

I think he was just relieved to be picked so high, it's pretty stressful for guys in his 'upside' category who could go anywhere from 10th to 30th.

[manl_lui]

GSW still has the best deal imo

[knuckleballer]

I like where you're headed.

I'd like to hope so!

Also, don't forget after July 1st, we can also use a sign and trade of Bradley as another trade chip and agree to take back Kevin Martin's contract, so maybe that helps.

By the way, that Zach Lavine kid did not look happy that he was being drafted by Minny.

Can't say I blame him

Lavine did not look happy at all.  http://thebiglead.com/2014/06/26/did-zach-lavine-say-eff-me-when-he-was-picked-by-minnesota/

It would be awful to be a Wolves fan.  Your best player wants out and now your first round pick acts like that when drafted.  It's hilarious to me, but terrible for them.

I think he was just relieved to be picked so high, it's pretty stressful for guys in his 'upside' category who could go anywhere from 10th to 30th.

You're probably right, but it's fun to make fun of Minny.

[bruinsandceltics]

GSW still has the best deal imo

GSW's deal wouldn't even be in the top 10 of deals offered to me if I was the GM in charge of trading Kevin Love.

Klay Thompson is so Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.n overrated.

[michael 26]

To my opinion the Celtics have the best offer by far. The warriors' Thompson has a really similar game to Kevin Martin, and David Lee hasn't got many years in front of him. Chicago have a better offer because Taj Gibson really became a great player on the Bulls, with an increased role he might improve. Doug Mcdermott is a nice option but the Celtics' draftees are better than him. As for Snell an Mirotic they are good players who can improve the Wolves. Both the Bulls and the Warriors can't transform the Timberwolves into a contender, but I think the Celtics' option would lay the best foundation for one.

 Marcus Smart could potentially become a star. Even though the Wolves have Ricky Rubio, a trade involving him or other players could work. Young is just more young talent, and as for Sullinger and Olynyk they have both shown how good they are and still have much to show. Since the Celtics have the youngest and most talented players I think they have the best offer.

[Waew]

keep the assets and wait for love to be a free agent.

[joepatsfan]

We can wait for Love to be a FA

but I don't think we even have to give up Smart or Young.

Just resign AB, then send AB + Sully OR Oly + 2 picks for Love.

Since Flip waited so long, Love's value will only be lower.

Rondo/Smart/Pressey
Smart/Young/filler
Green/Young
Sully OR Oly/Bass
Love/Fav/Hump

^playoff team

[Irish Stew]

I am just wondering if the bad taste left by the Garnett fleecing has blackballed us from this process? On the other hand, maybe Saunders believes that he can get the best deal postdraft or is he really silly and stubborn enough to believe that he can make the playoffs and convince Love to stay. Now that we can't use the TPE on Asik, we can use it on Martin and give them salary relief. I guess we could also do an s/t with Bradley for Rubio just so they can get him off their roster. For Love himself, we could do Smart, Sullinger, Olynyk, Bogans nonguaranteed contract, and Anthony's expiring contract. I didn't run it through the trade machine so it may have to be slightly adjusted but it's in the ballpark. Of course, we will have to throw in draft choices, at least 2 or 3. I assume that they might not want Young because they drafted Lavine but including him would not be a deal killer to me. It's a lot to give but it may be the only way to get this done, by overpaying. Can somebody clarify whether we will still be able to use the Bogans contract? If not, substitute the Bass expiring contract.

[Who]

Same as before

Best win-now offer = GSW
Best rebuilding offer = BOS

Depends on which direction Minnesota wants to go in post-Love.

[Monkhouse]

I am just wondering if the bad taste left by the Garnett fleecing has blackballed us from this process? On the other hand, maybe Saunders believes that he can get the best deal postdraft or is he really silly and stubborn enough to believe that he can make the playoffs and convince Love to stay. Now that we can't use the TPE on Asik, we can use it on Martin and give them salary relief. I guess we could also do an s/t with Bradley for Rubio just so they can get him off their roster. For Love himself, we could do Smart, Sullinger, Olynyk, Bogan's nonguaranteed contract, and Anthony's expiring contract. I didn't run it through the trade machine so it may have to be slightly adjusted but it's in the ballpark. Of course, we will have to throw in draft choices, at least 2 or 3. I assume that they might not want Young because they drafted Lavine but including him would not be a deal killer to me. It's a lot to give but it may be the only way to get this done, by overpaying. Can somebody clarify whether we will still be able to use the Bogan's contract? If not, substitute the Bass expiring contract.

We can still use Bogans.

I was thinking is there any way we could possibly keep Smart?

If we offer 3 draft picks, 2 of the Nets, one of our future Celtics pick, and maybe protect one of the future Nets one, Bogans, Bass, Sully/Oly, and Bradley sign and trade for Love/Martin.

I honestly don't mind giving out 4 picks, if two of them are our picks, and Clippers/Nets.

I do think the Nets are a lottery pick, but for someone like Love, its definitely worth it.

Same as before

Best win-now offer = GSW
Best rebuilding offer = BOS

Depends on which direction Minnesota wants to go in post-Love.

I don't even think GSW's offer would help the Wolves make the playoffs.. They AREN'T addressing their main concerns... And that is defense. Klay is a great defender, but I also think he gets overrated sometimes. His foot/lateral speed isn't that great, and while his size/length helps him make up for it, sometimes Klay does seem to let his defender get easy shots inside too.

[Irish Stew]

I understand your desire to keep Smart out of the deal but don't you think that Saunders would insist in order to, in my opinion and probably his, upgrade from the very ordinary Rubio. The other question I would have is will Smart ever be able to shoot well enough to play the 2 with an already mediocre shooter like Rondo at the 1? Thanx for the Bogans clarification.