If Danny drafts Randle, is Sullinger going to be traded?

[knuckleballer]

Randle gets very little separation on his shot and gets it blocked a lot.  I don't think that's a good sign for the NBA.  I'd rather stick with Sully and Olynyk and draft another position.

[Future Celtics Owner]

Randle as a freshman was a handful to handle near the post and was consistently double and at times triple teamed.

The Celts would instaneously get a guy that would demand multiple attention that would free things ups for everyone else. Especially give Rondo some more breathing room on the offensive end

I guess you and me are the only ones who see Randles value.

Go figure.

Your more of a gordon guy i take it?

[BudweiserCeltic]

I have no interest in Randle, but I'm pretty sure Danny likes Sullinger more than KO... but if Sullinger goes it's probably more so because he should have higher value around the league.

And Sullinger + Randle pairing is a better fit than a KO one... though none of these guys should be paired with each other.

[Future Celtics Owner]

Randle as a freshman was a handful to handle near the post and was consistently double and at times triple teamed.

The Celts would instaneously get a guy that would demand multiple attention that would free things ups for everyone else. Especially give Rondo some more breathing room on the offensive end

I don't know, there's bigger and taller guys in the NBA so I am not sure if that translate well

Agreed. I like Randle as well. he just happens to play the position that we are deep in  - PF.
Someone also mentioned that he does have T Rex arms

Olynyk has t rex arms...(he's a 7 footer tho). Olynyks wingspan is 6'9'', Randles it 7 feet even.

[manl_lui]

I have no interest in Randle, but I'm pretty sure Danny likes Sullinger more than KO... but if Sullinger goes it's probably more so because he should have higher value around the league.

And Sullinger + Randle pairing is a better fit than a KO one... though none of these guys should be paired with each other.

I am not sure if that is necessarily true. As most people on this board has said, KO had a steady improvement after the all-star game. I feel Sully and Randle just gives us two undersized power forwards

[Tr1boy]

Randle as a freshman was a handful to handle near the post and was consistently double and at times triple teamed.

The Celts would instaneously get a guy that would demand multiple attention that would free things ups for everyone else. Especially give Rondo some more breathing room on the offensive end

I don't know, there's bigger and taller guys in the NBA so I am not sure if that translate well

Randle is strong like sully but moves quick like lebron.  He is going to be a handful to contain. In addition he has al jefferson like moves underneath the basket

[footey]

Yeah, all signs points to that. I still think we'e picking Smart if Embiid is not there.

I think Randle is 1st.  BS looks like he was blown away with Randle when he came in for a workout. 

Also at 17 the Celtics are targeting Napier. Block the heat from drafting him plus he would be a nice backup plan at the pg spot if Rondo decides to walk.

Link to BS blown away by Randle?  He said nice things about all the guys working out. Did not recall anything special said about Randle.

Agree with you on Napier. How sweet would that be to grab him and screw up Heat plans. Plus I think he is going to be a terrific NBA energy guy off the bench, would contribute right away. Would love him as point for our second unit. 

[Tr1boy]

Randle gets very little separation on his shot and gets it blocked a lot.  I don't think that's a good sign for the NBA.  I'd rather stick with Sully and Olynyk and draft another position.

He got blocked usually when double teamed. On 1 on 1 situations he rarely did.  He is just too explosive for most big players to handle downlow.  Plus has alot of moes, fakes and has crafty ways to get his shot off.

[Tr1boy]

Yeah, all signs points to that. I still think we'e picking Smart if Embiid is not there.

I think Randle is 1st.  BS looks like he was blown away with Randle when he came in for a workout. 

Also at 17 the Celtics are targeting Napier. Block the heat from drafting him plus he would be a nice backup plan at the pg spot if Rondo decides to walk.

Link to BS blown away by Randle?  He said nice things about all the guys working out. Did not recall anything special said about Randle.

Agree with you on Napier. How sweet would that be to grab him and screw up Heat plans. Plus I think he is going to be a terrific NBA energy guy off the bench, would contribute right away. Would love him as point for our second unit.

Said Stevens, ?He looked good, looked good. Obviously a big strong guy, is very, very quick, light on his feet. By the time it?s all said and done, I think he?s going to have NBA 3-point range. I think he?s going to be a really good player."



Lets not forget before embiid randle was suppose to be a shoe into be picked at 3. He helped kentucky get to the finals and won 2 hs championships. He obviously knows how to win also

[D.o.s.]

Randle as a freshman was a handful to handle near the post and was consistently double and at times triple teamed.

The Celts would instaneously get a guy that would demand multiple attention that would free things ups for everyone else. Especially give Rondo some more breathing room on the offensive end

I guess you and me are the only ones who see Randles value.

Go figure.

Your more of a gordon guy i take it?

Not really, I just don't see Randle as a guy who's immediately going to draw doubles in the NBA.

[BudweiserCeltic]

I have no interest in Randle, but I'm pretty sure Danny likes Sullinger more than KO... but if Sullinger goes it's probably more so because he should have higher value around the league.

And Sullinger + Randle pairing is a better fit than a KO one... though none of these guys should be paired with each other.

I am not sure if that is necessarily true. As most people on this board has said, KO had a steady improvement after the all-star game. I feel Sully and Randle just gives us two undersized power forwards

I don't know why you're pointing out about Sully and Randle giving you two undersized power forwards. You're focusing too much on Kelly's height, and not so much on his softness and lack of wingspan.

Sully is not really an undersized power forward. He's pretty much a normal sized PF that has been used as a center since he entered the league because he has very good wingspan.

In particular, if we're going by positions, Sully is a better option at center than KO.

So it's fairly pointless to bring the undersized factor... all that said, I have no interest in drafting Randle in any case.

As for KO improving during the season, the problem is still present that he has many glaring weakness in his game, particularly in the defensive side.

I like Kelly, but I won't mistake him for being better than Sully... and Sully's ceiling is quite higher, to say nothing that Sully is the younger of the two.

[Tr1boy]

Randle as a freshman was a handful to handle near the post and was consistently double and at times triple teamed.

The Celts would instaneously get a guy that would demand multiple attention that would free things ups for everyone else. Especially give Rondo some more breathing room on the offensive end

I guess you and me are the only ones who see Randles value.

Go figure.

Your more of a gordon guy i take it?

Not really, I just don't see Randle as a guy who's immediately going to draw doubles in the NBA.

when he starts manhandling the guy who is guarding him, he is going to receive multiple attention

[kozlodoev]

yes or no?

if we don't get a starting center by the start of the season is

KO + Randle better than KO + Sullinger upfront?

I'm hoping Sullinger will get traded even if we don't draft Randle. too many question marks for my taste.

[hwangjini_1]

Randle as a freshman was a handful to handle near the post and was consistently double and at times triple teamed.

The Celts would instaneously get a guy that would demand multiple attention that would free things ups for everyone else. Especially give Rondo some more breathing room on the offensive end

I don't know, there's bigger and taller guys in the NBA so I am not sure if that translate well

Agreed. I like Randle as well. he just happens to play the position that we are deep in  - PF.
Someone also mentioned that he does have T Rex arms

Olynyk has t rex arms...(he's a 7 footer tho). Olynyks wingspan is 6'9'', Randles it 7 feet even.

wingspan may not be the best measurement to use for judging pf here. that is controlled as much by chest width as by arm length. check out photos of olly. he does not have a wide chest. compare his to someone such as howard.

for rebounding it may be better to use standing reach for pf and c type players.

if we do that, then olly looks ok.

standing reach:
olly = 9'0"
avg nba pf = 8'11.2"
avg nba c = 9'1.4"

but even with this, questions should be asked about olly's ability to out jump other pf and c in the nba. but again, that is not a function of his arms, but his athleticism...or lack there of.

[D.o.s.]

Randle as a freshman was a handful to handle near the post and was consistently double and at times triple teamed.

The Celts would instaneously get a guy that would demand multiple attention that would free things ups for everyone else. Especially give Rondo some more breathing room on the offensive end

I guess you and me are the only ones who see Randles value.

Go figure.

Your more of a gordon guy i take it?

Not really, I just don't see Randle as a guy who's immediately going to draw doubles in the NBA.

when he starts manhandling the guy who is guarding him, he is going to receive multiple attention

From the refs, who will call him for fouls. 

He's not going to be able to bully his way to the rim the same way he could in college -- and since that seems to be his biggest strength, he seems like a player who is less likely to translate well to the league than you believe.