If Danny drafts Randle, is Sullinger going to be traded?

[clover]

I have no interest in Randle, but I'm pretty sure Danny likes Sullinger more than KO... but if Sullinger goes it's probably more so because he should have higher value around the league.

And Sullinger + Randle pairing is a better fit than a KO one... though none of these guys should be paired with each other.

I am not sure if that is necessarily true. As most people on this board has said, KO had a steady improvement after the all-star game. I feel Sully and Randle just gives us two undersized power forwards

I don't know why you're pointing out about Sully and Randle giving you two undersized power forwards. You're focusing too much on Kelly's height, and not so much on his softness and lack of wingspan.

Sully is not really an undersized power forward. He's pretty much a normal sized PF that has been used as a center since he entered the league because he has very good wingspan.

In particular, if we're going by positions, Sully is a better option at center than KO.

So it's fairly pointless to bring the undersized factor... all that said, I have no interest in drafting Randle in any case.

As for KO improving during the season, the problem is still present that he has many glaring weakness in his game, particularly in the defensive side.

I like Kelly, but I won't mistake him for being better than Sully... and Sully's ceiling is quite higher, to say nothing that Sully is the younger of the two.

I disagree with you and think KO has the higher ceiling than Sully. But I don't think any of the three make for a great pairing--they all should have a true defensive center. KO, with his range and offensive versatility is also, IMO, the natural match for such a center.

[kozlodoev]

I don't know why you're pointing out about Sully and Randle giving you two undersized power forwards. You're focusing too much on Kelly's height, and not so much on his softness and lack of wingspan.

That may be because his alleged "softness" is fully imaginary.

[Mr October]

I would keep both Sully and Randle. Let them battle it out for the starting position.

I think Randle becomes a better player than Sully.

Bass would have to go though. And Kelly would have to play center.

[LarBrd33]

Sully's a backup.   When Bass eventually gets dumped, you'll have Kelly and Sully sharing backup PF minutes.

[kozlodoev]

Sully's a backup.   When Bass eventually gets dumped, you'll have Kelly and Sully sharing backup PF minutes.

Yeah, which is precisely why you don't need both of them.

[Tr1boy]

I would keep both Sully and Randle. Let them battle it out for the starting position.

I think Randle becomes a better player than Sully.

Bass would have to go though. And Kelly would have to play center.

from the Nba jr vietnam photos, KO looking a little stronger already. Has more definition on his upper body.

He just needs to be strong enough to not get pushed around.  Some more length would be ideal but positioning and not getting pushed around are more important

[BudweiserCeltic]

I don't know why you're pointing out about Sully and Randle giving you two undersized power forwards. You're focusing too much on Kelly's height, and not so much on his softness and lack of wingspan.

That may be because his alleged "softness" is fully imaginary.

Yeah, it really isn't. He has a tough time guarding strong and athletic bigs. Not to the extent that some like to assign to him, but it is an issue for him. He's not Bargnani soft, and he's actually positions himself fairly well (improving throughout the year as it was), but there's a lack of strength there that doesn't favor him. And when you add how many people here like to consider him as a Center, particularly as it regards in comparisons with Sully, it becomes even more of an issue.

[Tr1boy]

I don't know why you're pointing out about Sully and Randle giving you two undersized power forwards. You're focusing too much on Kelly's height, and not so much on his softness and lack of wingspan.

That may be because his alleged "softness" is fully imaginary.

Yeah, it really isn't. He has a tough time guarding strong and athletic bigs. Not to the extent that some like to assign to him, but it is an issue for him. He's not Bargnani soft, and he's actually positions himself fairly well (improving throughout the year as it was), but there's a lack of strength there that doesn't favor him. And when you add how many people here like to consider him as a Center, particularly as it regards in comparisons with Sully, it becomes even more of an issue.

Soft to me is jeff green. A guy who avoids getting his hands dirty.

Ko is willing to battle for rebounds

[kozlodoev]

I don't know why you're pointing out about Sully and Randle giving you two undersized power forwards. You're focusing too much on Kelly's height, and not so much on his softness and lack of wingspan.

That may be because his alleged "softness" is fully imaginary.

Yeah, it really isn't. He has a tough time guarding strong and athletic bigs. Not to the extent that some like to assign to him, but it is an issue for him. He's not Bargnani soft, and he's actually positions himself fairly well (improving throughout the year as it was), but there's a lack of strength there that doesn't favor him. And when you add how many people here like to consider him as a Center, particularly as it regards in comparisons with Sully, it becomes even more of an issue.

"Soft" is not the same as "lacking physical strength". A soft player is someone who buckles easily when faced with adversity. I haven't seen Olynyk do that.

[BudweiserCeltic]

I don't know why you're pointing out about Sully and Randle giving you two undersized power forwards. You're focusing too much on Kelly's height, and not so much on his softness and lack of wingspan.

That may be because his alleged "softness" is fully imaginary.

Yeah, it really isn't. He has a tough time guarding strong and athletic bigs. Not to the extent that some like to assign to him, but it is an issue for him. He's not Bargnani soft, and he's actually positions himself fairly well (improving throughout the year as it was), but there's a lack of strength there that doesn't favor him. And when you add how many people here like to consider him as a Center, particularly as it regards in comparisons with Sully, it becomes even more of an issue.

"Soft" is not the same as "lacking physical strength". A soft player is someone who buckles easily when faced with adversity. I haven't seen Olynyk do that.

We're splitting hairs here a bit. Soft can and is used in both scenarios. Was it the best descriptor to use in the discussion? No, but whatever. Now you know what I was referring to.

[MBunge]

He has a tough time guarding strong and athletic bigs.

That comment covers almost every rookie big that ever entered the league.

Mike

[BudweiserCeltic]

He has a tough time guarding strong and athletic bigs.

That comment covers almost every rookie big that ever entered the league.

Mike

Except the ones that don't. And I don't forsee KO getting THAT much stronger than he currently is. Is it possible? Sure, but I think this is a problem that he'll face throughout his career.