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Final Offseason Moves before draft (full rebuild)
« on: June 24, 2014, 11:27:36 PM »

Offline scotto1205

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Ok this will be for a full rebuild. I would prefer this option if we don't go for full out contention.

First move is to let Bradley walk for anything over 3 years 5.5 mil per year.

Let Humphries,Bayless expire.

First trade of the offseason trade Kelly Olynk, bogans, Wallace to the Bulls for boozer, 16th, and 19th pick. I know this hasn't really been discussed but the bulls need to free up as much space as possible to make a run at a top star, they can cut bogans and amnesty Wallace. They also need at guy that can hit shots and Olynk and Noah would pair perfect together imagine the ball movement. For us we get boozers 16 mil expiring and 2 first round picks right in the sweet spot of this draft.


Next trade rondo to Sacramento for mclemore, Williams, the 8th pick and the right to swap firsts in 2016.

This would give us 6th, 8th, 16th, 17th, and 19th. Now that would give us a ton of flexibility to do whatever we want but for this rebuild lets say we keep them all.

Honestly I don't think Embiid will be there and anyways we can tank and get a top center in next years draft.

Draft Night

6- Aaron Gordon
8- Marcus Smart
16- Jusuf Nurkic
17- Tyler Ennis
19- PJ Hairston

This would give us a lot of options lineup wise, also we would add some really smart and fierce competitors good Lockeroom guys.

I'd like to move green and bass somehow but I really couldn't think of anything.

So the depth chart would look like this

Ennis-?-Smart-Pressey
Smart-Hairston-Green
Green-Gordon-Hairston
Sullinger-bass-gordon
Nurkic?-?-Fav

So I think we need to bring in a center ?Okafor? and add some smart good culture vet mins to help teach the young ones. If we were to go full rebuild this wouldn't be a bad path, so telle what you guys think. Please!

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Re: Final Offseason Moves before draft (full rebuild)
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2014, 11:32:06 PM »

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Ok this will be for a full rebuild. I would prefer this option if we don't go for full out contention.

First move is to let Bradley walk for anything over 3 years 5.5 mil per year.

Let Humphries,Bayless expire.

First trade of the offseason trade Kelly Olynk, bogans, Wallace to the Bulls for boozer, 16th, and 19th pick. I know this hasn't really been discussed but the bulls need to free up as much space as possible to make a run at a top star, they can cut bogans and amnesty Wallace.

No, they can't. They can amnesty Boozer, though.

So the depth chart would look like this

Ennis-?-Smart-Pressey
Smart-Hairston-Green
Green-Gordon-Hairston
Sullinger-bass-gordon
Nurkic?-?-Fav

So I think we need to bring in a center ?Okafor? and add some smart good culture vet mins to help teach the young ones. If we were to go full rebuild this wouldn't be a bad path, so telle what you guys think. Please!

If you want to go full rebuild, why trade KO?

An Ennis/Smart/Hairston rotation in the backcourt sounds like a recipe for disaster to me. At least one of those guys would never get a chance to develop.
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Re: Final Offseason Moves before draft (full rebuild)
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2014, 11:33:11 PM »

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Insane.

Forget everything else.  The colossal headache of managing 5 first round picks who will all need their contracts extended/renegotiated at the same time can't be exaggerated. 


Mike

Re: Final Offseason Moves before draft (full rebuild)
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2014, 11:42:23 PM »

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Ok this will be for a full rebuild. I would prefer this option if we don't go for full out contention.

First move is to let Bradley walk for anything over 3 years 5.5 mil per year.

Let Humphries,Bayless expire.

First trade of the offseason trade Kelly Olynk, bogans, Wallace to the Bulls for boozer, 16th, and 19th pick. I know this hasn't really been discussed but the bulls need to free up as much space as possible to make a run at a top star, they can cut bogans and amnesty Wallace.

No, they can't. They can amnesty Boozer, though.

So the depth chart would look like this

Ennis-?-Smart-Pressey
Smart-Hairston-Green
Green-Gordon-Hairston
Sullinger-bass-gordon
Nurkic?-?-Fav

So I think we need to bring in a center ?Okafor? and add some smart good culture vet mins to help teach the young ones. If we were to go full rebuild this wouldn't be a bad path, so telle what you guys think. Please!

If you want to go full rebuild, why trade KO?

An Ennis/Smart/Hairston rotation in the backcourt sounds like a recipe for disaster to me. At least one of those guys would never get a chance to develop.

But really it's just those 3 in the backcourt. Lots of mins to split between them. I think I remember hearing that Stevens likes for both of his guards to be able to handle. You trade KO because pf is our deepest position and to add depth at other positions of need. Plus this sets us up to have a ton of caproon, and the ability to make all types of moves come 2015. Not to forget the probable lottery pick in 2015. I think it would be a very sixerish rebuild especially if we could nab Embiid at 6th but I think we would be more respectable than them with said roster.
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Re: Final Offseason Moves before draft (full rebuild)
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2014, 11:46:12 PM »

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Insane.

Forget everything else.  The colossal headache of managing 5 first round picks who will all need their contracts extended/renegotiated at the same time can't be exaggerated. 


Mike

The hopefull plan is to for some pieces to be moved for proven stars in 2015. Give minutes to a lot of young players and hope they show some promise enough to make them the centerpiece for a trade for a star. My dream roster come 2016

Smart, Thompson, Gordon , Sullinger, Embiid  I guess we will hopefully find out a sure direction on draft night but it might have to wait.
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Re: Final Offseason Moves before draft (full rebuild)
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2014, 11:49:30 PM »

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I disagree: I think KO's position in the NBA will be at C. He's listed at 7 feet, and nearly 240 pounds. He should get stronger, but won't get quicker.
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Re: Final Offseason Moves before draft (full rebuild)
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2014, 11:52:45 PM »

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Why does everyone think Wallace can be amnestied...I swear I've seen so many people throw out that suggestion.

His terrible contract is probably one of the reasons we got three first rounders AND an option to swap picks with BK in '17. If he was an expiring we would have received less, guaranteed.
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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2014, 11:58:44 PM »

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I'd be psyched to see Rondo get moved for the 7th or 8th pick.  Then draft Embiid, Gordon, and Saric.  If we can move up from 17 and draft Stauskas instead of Saric, I'd be even happier. 

Re: Final Offseason Moves before draft (full rebuild)
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Why does everyone think Wallace can be amnestied...I swear I've seen so many people throw out that suggestion.

Because there are armchair GMs who are worse than the worst GMs in NBA history.
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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2014, 11:59:11 PM »

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Why does everyone think Wallace can be amnestied...I swear I've seen so many people throw out that suggestion.

His terrible contract is probably one of the reasons we got three first rounders AND an option to swap picks with BK in '17. If he was an expiring we would have received less, guaranteed.

Why wouldn't the bulls be able to use the amnesty clause on him?
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Re: Final Offseason Moves before draft (full rebuild)
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2014, 12:01:26 AM »

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Why does everyone think Wallace can be amnestied...I swear I've seen so many people throw out that suggestion.

Because there are armchair GMs who are worse than the worst GMs in NBA history.

Sorry I don't know all the rules. I guess we can't all be he geniuses. Sorry for just trying to come up with creative offseason moves.
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Re: Final Offseason Moves before draft (full rebuild)
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2014, 12:03:59 AM »

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This is just crazy, I appreciate your opinion and hope but,  that's just asking for a lot of sad years for us fans

Re: Final Offseason Moves before draft (full rebuild)
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2014, 12:05:13 AM »

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Why does everyone think Wallace can be amnestied...I swear I've seen so many people throw out that suggestion.

His terrible contract is probably one of the reasons we got three first rounders AND an option to swap picks with BK in '17. If he was an expiring we would have received less, guaranteed.

Why wouldn't the bulls be able to use the amnesty clause on him?

The only players who can be amnestied are players who were under contract to their current team since before the current CBA was signed.
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Re: Final Offseason Moves before draft (full rebuild)
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2014, 12:07:49 AM »

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If we go full rebuild, jeff green is gone. I forgot who said it but they said jeff green's deal to an unnamed team is already agreed upon, its just a matter of flipping the rebuild switch for danny.

Re: Final Offseason Moves before draft (full rebuild)
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2014, 12:14:44 AM »

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Why would the Bulls trade their two first round picks to take on Wallace and only add KO?

They could not make this trade. Amnesty Boozer. Keep their 2 picks. And be all set.