Rival execs believe AB will command between $7-9 million per season

[cman88]

If we can nab Love, I would welcome keeping Bradley. as was said, he is only 22years old and already put up solid numbers last season

but, if we are rebuilding I dont think paying someone like Bradley 9million$ a year isnt something I would do.

[crimson_stallion]

7-9 per year is paying a whole lot for potential with Bradley. I don't think he gets an offer that big, but RFA leads to some weird deals. Both too small and too big for a player.

Why?

The guy just averaged 15 PPG on 46%/40%/80% shooting while coming off a season where he just got selected to the all-defensive second team.  On current production/ability alone he is already EASILLY a $5M-$6M player.  The fact that he's only 22 years old combined with his intangibles (work ethic, coachability, humble attitude, reputation as a team-first guy) and it's not hard to see a team throw another $2M on top for those extra perks alone. 

I can asee why people may look at $8M/year as a stretch given his injury history, but $7M a year is very realistic and I'd be pretty surprised if he doesn't get at least close to that number.

[djbilly33]

If they best player on the planet makes 16 mil and is willing to take another paycut to sign free agents and if 5 time champion Duncan is making 10 mil next year who is better and more valuable than AB, let him go.

[Fafnir]

7-9 per year is paying a whole lot for potential with Bradley. I don't think he gets an offer that big, but RFA leads to some weird deals. Both too small and too big for a player.

Why?

The guy just averaged 15 PPG on 46%/40%/80% shooting while coming off a season where he just got selected to the all-defensive second team.  On current production/ability alone he is already EASILLY a $5M-$6M player.  The fact that he's only 22 years old combined with his intangibles (work ethic, coachability, humble attitude, reputation as a team-first guy) and it's not hard to see a team throw another $2M on top for those extra perks alone. 

I can asee why people may look at $8M/year as a stretch given his injury history, but $7M a year is very realistic and I'd be pretty surprised if he doesn't get at least close to that number.

Because his raw numbers were on one of the worst offensive teams in the league. Additionally he doesn't get to the rim, generate free throws, get assists, and his 3 point shooting is limited to the corners currently. He's rather inefficient at the long ball from any other area of the court, that makes him easier to defend. (especially in a playoff series)

This limits his offensive impact to still being below average for a SG. His offensive rating was merely 100 last year, that's bad for a starting player. His TS% was .510 which is again well below average for a starting SG.

Meanwhile his defense is excellent, especially on the ball, and his rebounding is below average for his career.

That doesn't spell a 7 million dollar player yet, if he gets that contract its banking on him improving quite a bit. Which given his age isn't insane or anything, just a risk.

[MBunge]

If they best player on the planet makes 16 mil and is willing to take another paycut to sign free agents and if 5 time champion Duncan is making 10 mil next year who is better and more valuable than AB, let him go.

1.  LeBron actually made about 19 million last season.

2.  Neither of those guys is offering to take less to play for Boston.

Mike

[Celtics18]

7-9 per year is paying a whole lot for potential with Bradley. I don't think he gets an offer that big, but RFA leads to some weird deals. Both too small and too big for a player.

Why?

The guy just averaged 15 PPG on 46%/40%/80% shooting while coming off a season where he just got selected to the all-defensive second team.  On current production/ability alone he is already EASILLY a $5M-$6M player.  The fact that he's only 22 years old combined with his intangibles (work ethic, coachability, humble attitude, reputation as a team-first guy) and it's not hard to see a team throw another $2M on top for those extra perks alone. 

I can asee why people may look at $8M/year as a stretch given his injury history, but $7M a year is very realistic and I'd be pretty surprised if he doesn't get at least close to that number.

Because his raw numbers were on one of the worst offensive teams in the league. Additionally he doesn't get to the rim, generate free throws, get assists, and his 3 point shooting is limited to the corners currently. He's rather inefficient at the long ball from any other area of the court, that makes him easier to defend. (especially in a playoff series)

This limits his offensive impact to still being below average for a SG. His offensive rating was merely 100 last year, that's bad for a starting player. His TS% was .510 which is again well below average for a starting SG.

Meanwhile his defense is excellent, especially on the ball, and his rebounding is below average for his career.

That doesn't spell a 7 million dollar player yet, if he gets that contract its banking on him improving quite a bit. Which given his age isn't insane or anything, just a risk.

Where'd you get the information that Bradley is limited to hitting threes from the corners? 

According to NBA.COM, he was actually better from around the arc than from the corners last season. 

[Fafnir]

If they best player on the planet makes 16 mil and is willing to take another paycut to sign free agents and if 5 time champion Duncan is making 10 mil next year who is better and more valuable than AB, let him go.

1.  LeBron actually made about 19 million last season.

2.  Neither of those guys is offering to take less to play for Boston.

Mike

And Tim Duncan took less in his last contract, before that he was still getting paid the max the CBA allowed until he hit around 20 million per year and then he settled for that. Which is still less that he could have demanded but hardly a huge bargain. Only once he was 36 did he take the huge cut down to 10 per year. Given his age its probably close to what he'd have gotten on the market anyways.

[Fafnir]

7-9 per year is paying a whole lot for potential with Bradley. I don't think he gets an offer that big, but RFA leads to some weird deals. Both too small and too big for a player.

Why?

The guy just averaged 15 PPG on 46%/40%/80% shooting while coming off a season where he just got selected to the all-defensive second team.  On current production/ability alone he is already EASILLY a $5M-$6M player.  The fact that he's only 22 years old combined with his intangibles (work ethic, coachability, humble attitude, reputation as a team-first guy) and it's not hard to see a team throw another $2M on top for those extra perks alone. 

I can asee why people may look at $8M/year as a stretch given his injury history, but $7M a year is very realistic and I'd be pretty surprised if he doesn't get at least close to that number.

Because his raw numbers were on one of the worst offensive teams in the league. Additionally he doesn't get to the rim, generate free throws, get assists, and his 3 point shooting is limited to the corners currently. He's rather inefficient at the long ball from any other area of the court, that makes him easier to defend. (especially in a playoff series)

This limits his offensive impact to still being below average for a SG. His offensive rating was merely 100 last year, that's bad for a starting player. His TS% was .510 which is again well below average for a starting SG.

Meanwhile his defense is excellent, especially on the ball, and his rebounding is below average for his career.

That doesn't spell a 7 million dollar player yet, if he gets that contract its banking on him improving quite a bit. Which given his age isn't insane or anything, just a risk.

Where'd you get the information that Bradley is limited to hitting threes from the corners? 

According to NBA.COM, he was actually better from around the arc than from the corners last season.

He shot 63% of his three point shots from the corners. That's a lot, and frankly 37% isn't a good percentage to convert from the corner. That area of the court really should be 40+ easily, the best are near 50%.

While his percentages were somewhat better this year from other locations he still wasn't comfortable pulling the trigger from anywhere but the corner unless he was pretty much wide open.

Also of his 3 point makes almost all of them were assisted, which means he was only a spot up 3 point threat. That also limits the sort danger he is from deep.

All of this combined with his mediocre to below average scoring rate, accuracy, and efficiency means he's still a well below average offensive SG.

[Celtics4ever]

Meanwhile his defense is excellent, especially on the ball, and his rebounding is below average for his career.

I have not looked up the stats but watching the games I thought his D declined this year with him focusing more on offense.

[Corey]

7-9 per year is paying a whole lot for potential with Bradley. I don't think he gets an offer that big, but RFA leads to some weird deals. Both too small and too big for a player.

Why?

The guy just averaged 15 PPG on 46%/40%/80% shooting while coming off a season where he just got selected to the all-defensive second team.  On current production/ability alone he is already EASILLY a $5M-$6M player.  The fact that he's only 22 years old combined with his intangibles (work ethic, coachability, humble attitude, reputation as a team-first guy) and it's not hard to see a team throw another $2M on top for those extra perks alone. 

I can asee why people may look at $8M/year as a stretch given his injury history, but $7M a year is very realistic and I'd be pretty surprised if he doesn't get at least close to that number.

Because his raw numbers were on one of the worst offensive teams in the league. Additionally he doesn't get to the rim, generate free throws, get assists, and his 3 point shooting is limited to the corners currently. He's rather inefficient at the long ball from any other area of the court, that makes him easier to defend. (especially in a playoff series)

This limits his offensive impact to still being below average for a SG. His offensive rating was merely 100 last year, that's bad for a starting player. His TS% was .510 which is again well below average for a starting SG.

Meanwhile his defense is excellent, especially on the ball, and his rebounding is below average for his career.

That doesn't spell a 7 million dollar player yet, if he gets that contract its banking on him improving quite a bit. Which given his age isn't insane or anything, just a risk.

Oh?

[Fafnir]

Meanwhile his defense is excellent, especially on the ball, and his rebounding is below average for his career.

I have not looked up the stats but watching the games I thought his D declined this year with him focusing more on offense.

It did. He played a far less aggressive style in order to play more offense and avoid foul trouble.

[Celtics18]

7-9 per year is paying a whole lot for potential with Bradley. I don't think he gets an offer that big, but RFA leads to some weird deals. Both too small and too big for a player.

Why?

The guy just averaged 15 PPG on 46%/40%/80% shooting while coming off a season where he just got selected to the all-defensive second team.  On current production/ability alone he is already EASILLY a $5M-$6M player.  The fact that he's only 22 years old combined with his intangibles (work ethic, coachability, humble attitude, reputation as a team-first guy) and it's not hard to see a team throw another $2M on top for those extra perks alone. 

I can asee why people may look at $8M/year as a stretch given his injury history, but $7M a year is very realistic and I'd be pretty surprised if he doesn't get at least close to that number.

Because his raw numbers were on one of the worst offensive teams in the league. Additionally he doesn't get to the rim, generate free throws, get assists, and his 3 point shooting is limited to the corners currently. He's rather inefficient at the long ball from any other area of the court, that makes him easier to defend. (especially in a playoff series)

This limits his offensive impact to still being below average for a SG. His offensive rating was merely 100 last year, that's bad for a starting player. His TS% was .510 which is again well below average for a starting SG.

Meanwhile his defense is excellent, especially on the ball, and his rebounding is below average for his career.

That doesn't spell a 7 million dollar player yet, if he gets that contract its banking on him improving quite a bit. Which given his age isn't insane or anything, just a risk.

Where'd you get the information that Bradley is limited to hitting threes from the corners? 

According to NBA.COM, he was actually better from around the arc than from the corners last season.

He shot 63% of his three point shots from the corners. That's a lot, and frankly 37% isn't a good percentage to convert from the corner. That area of the court really should be 40+ easily, the best are near 50%.

While his percentages were somewhat better this year from other locations he still wasn't comfortable pulling the trigger from anywhere but the corner unless he was pretty much wide open.

Also of his 3 point makes almost all of them were assisted, which means he was only a spot up 3 point threat. That also limits the sort danger he is from deep.

All of this combined with his mediocre to below average scoring rate, accuracy, and efficiency means he's still a well below average offensive SG.

No matter how you slice it, 40% from deep is a very solid number for a three point shooter.  The fact that most of them were assisted is a good thing in my book.  With Rondo running the show, we absolutely need players who can catch and shoot from distance.  Avery fits that bill. 

[Fafnir]

No matter how you slice it, 40% from deep is a very solid number for a three point shooter.  The fact that most of them were assisted is a good thing in my book.  With Rondo running the show, we absolutely need players who can catch and shoot from distance.  Avery fits that bill.

Being a 40% 3 point shooter doesn't make you an offensive threat. You have to be willing to take the 3 point shot and take it quickly. Thabo Sefolosha was a 40% three point shooter for two years and still wasn't an offensive threat, he was hesitant to take the dang shot even when it was there. Bradley prefers to just take a dribble or two and launch a 18-20 foot shot to taking a three that isn't in the corner. That's a problem.

Assisted buckets are great, but if you're going to be a 7-9 million dollar player you need to bring more to the table than hitting 3s in catch and shoot situations and taking dribble pull up long 2s. Bradley still has the offensive skill set of a below average SG, a role player. He has a lot of growing to do still if he's going to avoid being a liability offensively as a starter.

[ctrey]

With Jeff Green making 9 million sadly AB is going to get between 7-9 million. He's young, plays great perimeter D and his shot is improving.

[Fafnir]

With Jeff Green making 9 million sadly AB is going to get between 7-9 million. He's young, plays great perimeter D and his shot is improving.

Well given that Klay Thompson is apparently going to get a max contract, I guess the SG position is just crazy right now.