Jared Sullingers trade value

[BballTim]

He's solid but nothing special. Could pan out into a 20/10 guy, but probably not. 16/9 seems more likely but there are a plethora of those kind players in the league.

  10 players in the league averaged 16/9 last year, so roughly 2/3 of the teams in the league didn't have such a player.

[Celtics4ever]

I wonder how many of them shot  .42% from the field?

[Nef-Oracle]

Something like a first rounder in a 13-15 range. Personally we'll be dumb to trade considering his potential. Better keep him.

[Who]

Late lottery = 10-14th pick. Which undervalues Sully in my estimation.

I think Sully's trade value would be higher if Coach Stevens hadn't kept limiting his court time last year in order to play inferior players. Due to that, I think Sully's trade value can be a lot higher in 12 months time if he gets the playing time from CBS that Sully deserves.

[LatterDayCelticsfan]

A guy giving you Sullinger level production on a rookie scale deal ought not to be traded. Unless its as a sweetener in a deal to bring home an established star.

[kozlodoev]

Late lottery = 10-14th pick. Which undervalues Sully in my estimation.

I think Sully's trade value would be higher if Coach Stevens hadn't kept limiting his court time last year in order to play inferior players. Due to that, I think Sully's trade value can be a lot higher in 12 months time if he gets the playing time from CBS that Sully deserves.

Sullinger had 33 games last season where he had 4 or more fouls. But I'm sure that if not for Stevens, he'd have been a veritable juggernaut.

[BballTim]

Late lottery = 10-14th pick. Which undervalues Sully in my estimation.

I think Sully's trade value would be higher if Coach Stevens hadn't kept limiting his court time last year in order to play inferior players. Due to that, I think Sully's trade value can be a lot higher in 12 months time if he gets the playing time from CBS that Sully deserves.

Sullinger had 33 games last season where he had 4 or more fouls. But I'm sure that if not for Stevens, he'd have been a veritable juggernaut.

  He has his flaws but he's one of 14 players in the last 10 years to average 13/8 in his first or second year. He's not a lock to be a star but he's not the dime-a-dozen player that people are claiming.

[kozlodoev]

Late lottery = 10-14th pick. Which undervalues Sully in my estimation.

I think Sully's trade value would be higher if Coach Stevens hadn't kept limiting his court time last year in order to play inferior players. Due to that, I think Sully's trade value can be a lot higher in 12 months time if he gets the playing time from CBS that Sully deserves.

Sullinger had 33 games last season where he had 4 or more fouls. But I'm sure that if not for Stevens, he'd have been a veritable juggernaut.

  He has his flaws but he's one of 14 players in the last 10 years to average 13/8 in his first or second year. He's not a lock to be a star but he's not the dime-a-dozen player that people are claiming.

I don't think people are concerned about him being a "dime-a-dozen" player, I think they're worrying about him being Tractor Traylor with a pinch of Antoine mixed in for flavor.

In other words, between the fouls, the weight, the back, and the chance of developing a love affair with the three-point shot, there is enough material to make a reasonable fan not overreact to the 13/8. And that's before even bringing in the fact that he can't get off the ground to save his life.

[Snakehead]

Late lottery = 10-14th pick. Which undervalues Sully in my estimation.

I think Sully's trade value would be higher if Coach Stevens hadn't kept limiting his court time last year in order to play inferior players. Due to that, I think Sully's trade value can be a lot higher in 12 months time if he gets the playing time from CBS that Sully deserves.

Sullinger had 33 games last season where he had 4 or more fouls. But I'm sure that if not for Stevens, he'd have been a veritable juggernaut.

  He has his flaws but he's one of 14 players in the last 10 years to average 13/8 in his first or second year. He's not a lock to be a star but he's not the dime-a-dozen player that people are claiming.

I don't think people are concerned about him being a "dime-a-dozen" player, I think they're worrying about him being Tractor Traylor with a pinch of Antoine mixed in for flavor.

In other words, between the fouls, the weight, the back, and the chance of developing a love affair with the three-point shot, there is enough material to make a reasonable fan not overreact to the 13/8. And that's before even bringing in the fact that he can't get off the ground to save his life.

Sullinger has more basketball IQ than those players, and I think he is more physical and defensive minded too (I was impressed watching him play NBA Centers very physically last year).  I don't see the pitfalls you do.  The only worry for me is health.  I personally don't even get too worked up about his weight (though it should improve, I just think it will).

Anyways, I find him pretty underrated.  What he has done in his first two years is impressive.   As Tim has said here, I think we are underrating how few players put up double double numbers on average, and Sully seems destined to be one.

[kozlodoev]

I think we are underrating how few players put up double double numbers on average, and Sully seems destined to be one.

That, in itself, is not particularly important. It's not what makes a good team.

[Snakehead]

I think we are underrating how few players put up double double numbers on average, and Sully seems destined to be one.

That, in itself, is not particularly important. It's not what makes a good team.

Good teams don't rebound? 

[BballTim]

Late lottery = 10-14th pick. Which undervalues Sully in my estimation.

I think Sully's trade value would be higher if Coach Stevens hadn't kept limiting his court time last year in order to play inferior players. Due to that, I think Sully's trade value can be a lot higher in 12 months time if he gets the playing time from CBS that Sully deserves.

Sullinger had 33 games last season where he had 4 or more fouls. But I'm sure that if not for Stevens, he'd have been a veritable juggernaut.

  He has his flaws but he's one of 14 players in the last 10 years to average 13/8 in his first or second year. He's not a lock to be a star but he's not the dime-a-dozen player that people are claiming.

I don't think people are concerned about him being a "dime-a-dozen" player, I think they're worrying about him being Tractor Traylor with a pinch of Antoine mixed in for flavor.

In other words, between the fouls, the weight, the back, and the chance of developing a love affair with the three-point shot, there is enough material to make a reasonable fan not overreact to the 13/8. And that's before even bringing in the fact that he can't get off the ground to save his life.

  Nobody's overreacting to the 13/8, but there's no real reason to dismiss it out of hand because of real (or possible) flaws (which didn't prevent him from getting those numbers). It makes sense to worry about his being a Tractor Trailer, it also makes sense to consider that that's not the only possible outcome. Also, it's not ideal that he's not a great leaper, but that doesn't stop him from being a good rebounder or decent inside scorer. Sometimes that bulk is a positive.

[SHAQATTACK]

If no Love or Mello

I d just as soon keep Kelly O. And Sully ....rebuild again

Those two are only going to GO. UP in value and besides .....they re kinda fun to watch get better.

I predict Sully is going to be a wild man this year , if he stays healthy and drops a pound or ten.

[BballTim]

I think we are underrating how few players put up double double numbers on average, and Sully seems destined to be one.

That, in itself, is not particularly important. It's not what makes a good team.

  I think you'd be hard pressed to make a case that having a player average a double double somehow prevents you from having a good team.

[kozlodoev]

Good teams don't rebound? 

That has nothing to do with double-doubles. Good teams do rebound, and that's a team effort where all 5 guys have to contribute.

As a matter of fact, my impression is that the stats of most guys that average double-doubles are at least to an extent padded by them being surrounded by horrible rebounders.