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The Wolves are doing the Celtics a favor
« on: June 19, 2014, 08:21:48 AM »

Offline cb8883

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By telling Ainge that the Nuggets Bulls and Warriors all have better offers. There is no way the Celtics should give up multiple years of control of a potential franchise player for Kevin Love's overrated game. The only way to build a title team is to have a superstar. Danny needs to stop looking for short cuts and do what's right. Blow it up! Trade Bass Rondo Green and sign and trade Bradley for picks. Wallace's contract doesn't matter because it's going to be an expiring next year. Getting rid of Sully and Olynyk would be terrible for the teams future. Tank even harder next year and if they want to sign a free agent or two go ahead but superstars will never ever come to Boston unless forced to by trade or drafted. We are a turnstile destination and not nearly as prestigious as the Miami and LA's of the world.

Re: The Wolves are doing the Celtics a favor
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2014, 08:24:02 AM »

Offline cman88

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By telling Ainge that the Nuggets Bulls and Warriors all have better offers. There is no way the Celtics should give up multiple years of control of a potential franchise player for Kevin Love's overrated game. The only way to build a title team is to have a superstar. Danny needs to stop looking for short cuts and do what's right. Blow it up! Trade Bass Rondo Green and sign and trade Bradley for picks. Wallace's contract doesn't matter because it's going to be an expiring next year. Getting rid of Sully and Olynyk would be terrible for the teams future.

You do realise that danny looked for a shortcut when he traded for KG/ray allen. If he followed your model he wouldve traded pierce for picks and blown up the roster back in 2006.

there are several ways to build a contender. If someone who averages 26ppg and 12rpg isnt a star, what is? and how long do you want to be horrible for to grab one of those?

because we all know it has worked out so well in the DUncan draft, the durant draft, and now the wiggins/parker draft  ::)

Re: The Wolves are doing the Celtics a favor
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2014, 08:27:41 AM »

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Yup.

Don't pursue good players in trades.

Deal any/all players on the current team for more draft picks.

Be even worse next year and pack it in for the next several years because "no one wants to come to Boston."

I am left speechless.

Re: The Wolves are doing the Celtics a favor
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2014, 08:35:23 AM »

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By telling Ainge that the Nuggets Bulls and Warriors all have better offers. There is no way the Celtics should give up multiple years of control of a potential franchise player for Kevin Love's overrated game. The only way to build a title team is to have a superstar. Danny needs to stop looking for short cuts and do what's right. Blow it up! Trade Bass Rondo Green and sign and trade Bradley for picks. Wallace's contract doesn't matter because it's going to be an expiring next year. Getting rid of Sully and Olynyk would be terrible for the teams future.

You do realise that danny looked for a shortcut when he traded for KG/ray allen. If he followed your model he wouldve traded pierce for picks and blown up the roster back in 2006.

there are several ways to build a contender. If someone who averages 26ppg and 12rpg isnt a star, what is? and how long do you want to be horrible for to grab one of those?

because we all know it has worked out so well in the DUncan draft, the durant draft, and now the wiggins/parker draft  ::)

your post and everyone that wants to wait and see if this guy and this guy becomes the next Jordan reminds me of the last scene in Dumb & Dumber.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLB-uMPj27s


Re: The Wolves are doing the Celtics a favor
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2014, 08:37:50 AM »

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By telling Ainge that the Nuggets Bulls and Warriors all have better offers. There is no way the Celtics should give up multiple years of control of a potential franchise player for Kevin Love's overrated game. The only way to build a title team is to have a superstar. Danny needs to stop looking for short cuts and do what's right. Blow it up! Trade Bass Rondo Green and sign and trade Bradley for picks. Wallace's contract doesn't matter because it's going to be an expiring next year. Getting rid of Sully and Olynyk would be terrible for the teams future. Tank even harder next year and if they want to sign a free agent or two go ahead but superstars will never ever come to Boston unless forced to by trade or drafted. We are a turnstile destination and not nearly as prestigious as the Miami and LA's of the world.

+1.

Wolves should take the nuggets offer. You are not going to get back equivalent value back for love

Re: The Wolves are doing the Celtics a favor
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2014, 08:53:46 AM »

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By telling Ainge that the Nuggets Bulls and Warriors all have better offers. There is no way the Celtics should give up multiple years of control of a potential franchise player for Kevin Love's overrated game. The only way to build a title team is to have a superstar. Danny needs to stop looking for short cuts and do what's right. Blow it up! Trade Bass Rondo Green and sign and trade Bradley for picks. Wallace's contract doesn't matter because it's going to be an expiring next year. Getting rid of Sully and Olynyk would be terrible for the teams future. Tank even harder next year and if they want to sign a free agent or two go ahead but superstars will never ever come to Boston unless forced to by trade or drafted. We are a turnstile destination and not nearly as prestigious as the Miami and LA's of the world.

+1.

Wolves should take the nuggets offer. You are not going to get back equivalent value back for love

Just want to make sure I am reading this right??  Are you saying Sully is a potential franchise player?

Re: The Wolves are doing the Celtics a favor
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2014, 09:00:49 AM »

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By telling Ainge that the Nuggets Bulls and Warriors all have better offers. There is no way the Celtics should give up multiple years of control of a potential franchise player for Kevin Love's overrated game. The only way to build a title team is to have a superstar. Danny needs to stop looking for short cuts and do what's right. Blow it up! Trade Bass Rondo Green and sign and trade Bradley for picks. Wallace's contract doesn't matter because it's going to be an expiring next year. Getting rid of Sully and Olynyk would be terrible for the teams future. Tank even harder next year and if they want to sign a free agent or two go ahead but superstars will never ever come to Boston unless forced to by trade or drafted. We are a turnstile destination and not nearly as prestigious as the Miami and LA's of the world.

+1.

Wolves should take the nuggets offer. You are not going to get back equivalent value back for love

Just want to make sure I am reading this right??  Are you saying Sully is a potential franchise player?
He could be referring to the number 6 pick, Sullinger, Olynyk, or any of the other picks as well.

Re: The Wolves are doing the Celtics a favor
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2014, 09:03:34 AM »

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By telling Ainge that the Nuggets Bulls and Warriors all have better offers. There is no way the Celtics should give up multiple years of control of a potential franchise player for Kevin Love's overrated game. The only way to build a title team is to have a superstar. Danny needs to stop looking for short cuts and do what's right. Blow it up! Trade Bass Rondo Green and sign and trade Bradley for picks. Wallace's contract doesn't matter because it's going to be an expiring next year. Getting rid of Sully and Olynyk would be terrible for the teams future. Tank even harder next year and if they want to sign a free agent or two go ahead but superstars will never ever come to Boston unless forced to by trade or drafted. We are a turnstile destination and not nearly as prestigious as the Miami and LA's of the world.

+1.

Wolves should take the nuggets offer. You are not going to get back equivalent value back for love

Just want to make sure I am reading this right??  Are you saying Sully is a potential franchise player?
He could be referring to the number 6 pick, Sullinger, Olynyk, or any of the other picks as well.

Thanks - Sully and KO are NOT going to be franchise players!  I love those guys too but neither one of them will even have the career path of what Love has already accomplished.  The number 6 pick is a maybe and that's a big maybe.  It blows my mind that fans would rather have 3 maybe's instead of one definite???  I will never understand that...

Re: The Wolves are doing the Celtics a favor
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2014, 09:06:57 AM »

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By telling Ainge that the Nuggets Bulls and Warriors all have better offers. There is no way the Celtics should give up multiple years of control of a potential franchise player for Kevin Love's overrated game. The only way to build a title team is to have a superstar. Danny needs to stop looking for short cuts and do what's right. Blow it up! Trade Bass Rondo Green and sign and trade Bradley for picks. Wallace's contract doesn't matter because it's going to be an expiring next year. Getting rid of Sully and Olynyk would be terrible for the teams future. Tank even harder next year and if they want to sign a free agent or two go ahead but superstars will never ever come to Boston unless forced to by trade or drafted. We are a turnstile destination and not nearly as prestigious as the Miami and LA's of the world.

+1.

Wolves should take the nuggets offer. You are not going to get back equivalent value back for love

Just want to make sure I am reading this right??  Are you saying Sully is a potential franchise player?
He could be referring to the number 6 pick, Sullinger, Olynyk, or any of the other picks as well.

Plus they will likely have another 5-10 pick (their own) next year if they make the c's trade. If the do the denver or GSW they will get high end role players that will make them too good to get a high lottery pick, but not good enough to make the playoffs in the West .

Re: The Wolves are doing the Celtics a favor
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2014, 09:07:13 AM »

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By telling Ainge that the Nuggets Bulls and Warriors all have better offers. There is no way the Celtics should give up multiple years of control of a potential franchise player for Kevin Love's overrated game. The only way to build a title team is to have a superstar. Danny needs to stop looking for short cuts and do what's right. Blow it up! Trade Bass Rondo Green and sign and trade Bradley for picks. Wallace's contract doesn't matter because it's going to be an expiring next year. Getting rid of Sully and Olynyk would be terrible for the teams future. Tank even harder next year and if they want to sign a free agent or two go ahead but superstars will never ever come to Boston unless forced to by trade or drafted. We are a turnstile destination and not nearly as prestigious as the Miami and LA's of the world.

+1.

Wolves should take the nuggets offer. You are not going to get back equivalent value back for love

Just want to make sure I am reading this right??  Are you saying Sully is a potential franchise player?

Okay, let's be real here for a second.

Edit: Apparently I was a little too real for the mods.  ;D My bad
« Last Edit: June 19, 2014, 09:15:19 AM by KamikazeK »

Re: The Wolves are doing the Celtics a favor
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2014, 09:11:11 AM »

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FYI the grass is not always greener on the other side, counting on draft picks and ping pong balls will keep you in the basement for a LONG time.

Love is a great player, no idea what the "say not to Love" crowd on here is thinking. It's worse than the Gordon is going to be a superstar people. ::)

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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2014, 09:21:26 AM »

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One thing I have learned is the rebuild supporters have some of the most pathetic arguments.

Unless you want to be like the Kings, Bobcats, Wolves, Cavs etc who go to the lottery every year and yet still continue to suck, I don't know why you wouldn't want a star that WANTS to come here. Also, their management is as bad as our lottery luck, so the "bad management" argument doesn't work.

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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2014, 09:22:04 AM »

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By telling Ainge that the Nuggets Bulls and Warriors all have better offers. There is no way the Celtics should give up multiple years of control of a potential franchise player for Kevin Love's overrated game. The only way to build a title team is to have a superstar. Danny needs to stop looking for short cuts and do what's right. Blow it up! Trade Bass Rondo Green and sign and trade Bradley for picks. Wallace's contract doesn't matter because it's going to be an expiring next year. Getting rid of Sully and Olynyk would be terrible for the teams future. Tank even harder next year and if they want to sign a free agent or two go ahead but superstars will never ever come to Boston unless forced to by trade or drafted. We are a turnstile destination and not nearly as prestigious as the Miami and LA's of the world.

+1.

Wolves should take the nuggets offer. You are not going to get back equivalent value back for love

It's not that great of an offer though.
Faried is a good role player on a nice rookie contract, but he's a role player.
Chandler is a basic role player who averages 13 points and 4 rebounds on 41% shooting in 31 minutes a game.
Gallinari is the best prospect piece but he's not looking too good after having unsuccessful surgery AFTER averaging 16 points and 5 rebounds in 32 minutes a game. He hasn't played in 18 months either.
Afflalo is a great defensive 3+Defense guy but he's another role player...
In 35 minutes a game he averaged 18 points, 3.5 rebounds and 3 assists a game.
Compare him to Jeff Green's 17 points, 4 rebounds and 1.7 assists in 34 minutes a game, and Afflalo is playing on a team worse than ours.
I like him, and he's a nice piece or 4th/5th option on a contender, but not as a key player on a playoff team lol.

These guys are all role players. The Wolves don't make the playoffs in the West with these guys on their team. Think about it. If the Suns can't make the playoffs then the Wolves can't with that team. No stars, no prospects. No playoffs.

"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

quoting 'Greg B' on RealGM after 2017 trade deadline.
Read that last line again. One more time.

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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2014, 09:22:56 AM »

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FYI the grass is not always greener on the other side, counting on draft picks and ping pong balls will keep you in the basement for a LONG time.

Love is a great player, no idea what the "say not to Love" crowd on here is thinking. It's worse than the Gordon is going to be a superstar people. ::)

Why a long time? Not every team screws up the draft/rebuilding process like the bucks, wolves, bobcats

Re: The Wolves are doing the Celtics a favor
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2014, 09:24:32 AM »

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FYI the grass is not always greener on the other side, counting on draft picks and ping pong balls will keep you in the basement for a LONG time.

Love is a great player, no idea what the "say not to Love" crowd on here is thinking. It's worse than the Gordon is going to be a superstar people. ::)

Why a long time? Not every team screws up the draft/rebuilding process like the bucks, wolves, bobcats

or the Celtics...1990s - 2000's?

you do realise as well, once you land that 1 star, if you dont build a contending team within 5 years they are out the door....ala Chris paul, dwight howard, carmelo anthony etc...